In the Bible Was ADAM and EVE the first Created Human of God
26 Jun 07
It is indeed a daughter of Adam and Eve as written in Genesis 5:4. We have to remember that sin is the transgression of the law. And in the absence of the law, there is no sin (whether you take it biblically or legally). It was only during the Levitical priesthood times that incest was forbidden by God. (Leviticus 18:6 or you may opt continue reading)
26 Jun 07
It seems you are very knowledgeable about the Bible can you read Genesis Chapter 1.. And i hope you will agree with me that Chapter 1 is not a summary of Chapter 2, coz if you will say that Chapter 1 is a summary of Chapter 2, Why not go back to School again and study where can you find a book that the first chapter is the summary of the second chapter alone and not with the whole Book. So, then read Chapter 1:26-27, are you saying these people are ADAM and EVE? Now look at Chapter 2:7,21-25 then to further prove it look at Chapter 6:1-2... now if you want the full report pls read the whole book... So, if you believe that Cain took his sister to be his wife it is up to you.. But for me I do believe that God is not insane to have an incest in HIS CHOSEN creation. That was why He created somebody outside the paradise.
27 Jun 07
I cannot say that Chapter 1 is the summary of Chapter 2 but rather Chapter 2 elaborates more what happened in Chapter 1. We have to understand that (1) the way how people narrated in writing during the time of Moses is far more different from ours today so there is no need for comparison; (2) the orignal scripture written by Moses comes with NO chapters nor verses. It was only during the modern timed (A.D.) when chapters and verses and book titles were added to ease the way of memorizing and citing biblical references. So we cannot say that Chapter 1 is not part of Chapter 2. To further explain (1), look at this example: "This morning, I cooked omellet (ref 1). I got eggs from the fridge; and bowl and beater from the kitchen drawer (ref 2)...and so on" In this example, it appears that ref 1 is already done. It is parallel to Chapetr 1 saying that God created man. While in ref 2, I elaborated the how I made the omellet. That is with chapter 2's elaboration on how God created man. And YES, the people in Chapter 1:26-27 were Adam and Eve. Chapter 2:7, 21-25 only elaborated how they were created. Here are the reasons: (1) the above argument; (2)lets explore the hit points of Genesis 1:26-27 i. The creature was man ii. Man was created according to the likeness and imagge of God iii. There were male and female iv. They were blest Aren't these fit what was written in Genesis 5:1-5? They were indeed Adam and Eve. Now, I don't know why Chapter 6:1-2 has something to do with this. That was on Noah's time. That was 1,656 to 2,262 years after Adam. Not even Cain nor Seth had oulived that. What are others supporting verses to prove that that was adam and Eve? (1) Genesis 3:20 says that Eve is the mother of ALL living; (2) I Corinthians 15:45 states that Adam was the first man. (3) If the man in Genesis 1:26, who was ordered by God to subdue ALL animals, why did God bring every living creature before Adam;... On the matter of incest, the first thing to know is to know the substance of incest. Here's how we can get it, -You said that Cain cannot marry* any Adam and Eve's daughter because that would be incest. -I ask why incest? -If you answer "because they are brother and sister", I'll proceed. If you have other reason outside the domain of relationship, pls tell me. Note that it was only the Levitical priesthood times that incest was forbidden so I cannot accept the answer "law-related". -If you answer because they are brother and sister, I ask "what's the deal?" -If you answer "because they came from same flesh (that were Adam and Eve), I'll proceed. If you have other reason outside the bound of Origin, pls relay. -If you answer "because they came in same flesh", then I'll ask. Isn't EVE CAME FROM ADAM? Would that render incest? And again, asfar as biblical and legal principle is concerned, in the absence of law, there is no sin. Romans 5:13...but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
29 Feb 08
Hahaha, lol, what an argument you are presenting. comparing the creation with a refrigerator??? You even does not understand the word incest, that was why I was presenting that premise here because Eve was taken from Adam and that: therefore if God will say it will be done then He can do it. God knows that and SURELY God will not allow incestuous activity to happen in HIS human creation maybe if you are an animal like the snake or rabbit He will allow it. God is not dumb to make something that is questionable. Pls. Dont be BLINDED with false teachings. Anyway you are still very young read the Bible some more and have a comprehension dont just listen to your church leader. Read, read and comprehend.
26 Apr 07
This is a rather old philosophical question made popular by the excellent but historically flawed (and I really mean flawed) movie, "Inherit the Wind". There are two things to consider. First that there are a number of different translations of the bible. Second that the bible is not meant to be a day to day history of the world. Of course it would mean incest if the biblical version of creation was true. This is just one of those messy little contradictions in the bible. Incest was not nearly the taboo that it would be later on in history. Many things that are morally wrong today were considered the norm a few thousand years ago. It was simply a different time. And the bible reflects the morals of the time. To keep the record clear, I am agnostic. I believe the bible was meant to be a collection of moral allegories for believers. Today they use a sort of situational ethics when dealing with the contradictions.
22 Jun 07
Actually, it is much more than that but there is little point in discussing academics with a true believer. Someday you might be curious enough about your own belief system to investigate it. There is quite a lot of historical and anthropological work done on the era, of course it doesn't support the supernatural views of true believers, hence they don't tend to be terribly interested.
28 Feb 08
No. Adam means man... and Eve means woman. The biblical text need not be interpret as in the sense of taking Adam and Eve as literal individual persons. Since science says that there could be around ten thousand human being when human first appeared, it could be read that from these ten thousand people the rest of humankind proceed. Genesis 1 and 2 are texts not to be interpreted literally. The important element is to take the theological message. Because that is the intention of the author. The author was not interested in giving step by step account of human origin. Bible is not primarily a textbook on history or science. It is a book primarily of theology.
29 Feb 08
Theology,to me, is the study of God and his creation as perceived or rather revealed and understood by man. Since I am a creation of God I need God to reveal to me so that I perceive Him. But the perception has to be processed and put in a systematic framework. This perception is not exhaustive since infinite God cannot be contained in my finite mind. But my mind can contain 'a slice' of His infinity. What do you mean by meeting HIM personally? Are you talking about being saved?