Hurtful words

@soccermom (3198)
United States
May 15, 2007 9:14pm CST
My 11 year old is a great kid, I would move heaven and earth for her and I think deep down she knows it, but she's been getting out of control with her mouth lately. I try to take it for what it is, a hormonal preteen speaking, I'm not so old I have forgotten. Although I don't remember speaking to my mom like this until I was at least 14. She made me cry tonite, I didn't break down in front of her, but I broke down none the less, and then my hubby got upset at her. She screamed at me that she hated me! Why? Because I was trying to tell her that we've been letting her slide on her chores since the weather broke, and it was time to get back in the swing of things again and I wanted to teach her how to help with laundry. I was trying to tell her that summer is coming and that means a pretty hectic schedule and she is old enough to help and have some responsibility, especially if she wants to go to camp for a week and all the other things she wants to be involved in that cost a small fortune. I don't see a problem with expecting her to chip in and earn privileges. All I ask is that she cleans her room and her bathroom once a week, cleans up the yard after the puppy SHE wanted and promised to take care of, and learn how to help with laundry. You'd think I was asking her to run the household! I hate fighting with her, but don't believe anything I say to her will get her to understand where I am coming from. When she said she hated me it crushed me. I coach her soccer team, hang out with her, listen to all her stories and bend over backwards to be a good mom. Should I just let this go? Am I stupid for feeling so hurt?
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16 responses
• United States
16 May 07
Yeah I have been there, a therapist once told me that children hurt the one they love the most since they are so close to them, obviously she is hurting you, I know it is hard, it was hard when I went through it, and yes, my daughter made me cry more times than I want to mention, but she does love you and you have to look through the meanness and the hate she shows to realize that one day she will come back to you, just like my daughter did, I know it is hard now, but you have to be strong and show her that you are the boss and no matter what she does you will always be strong and be firm with her, she is testing you, don't let her walk over you and good food your husband, wish there was more husbands like him around.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
16 May 07
My hubby is very supportive, and you're right she is testing us. I hate to say it but the behavior I see in her lately makes me appreciate the two younger ones a little more. I guess "terrible twos" isn't so terrible compared to this!
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• United States
16 May 07
When I was raising my children I used to complain to my sister (who had older children than me) how horrible it was and she would always tell me "just wait, it gets worse" I never knew what she meant until my daughter turned 13 years old and the whole world broke open to this new, not so wonderful, life. The best thing I can tell you is that most children come back to us with a new attitude around 19 years old, until then, life can be challenging to say the least. You are blessed to have such a husband with you during this time.
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• United States
16 May 07
I lost my Mother almost 2 years ago now and I remember how horrible I was and the awful things I said to her when I fought, my Mother was very controlling and if was not done her way she was not happy, so we fought ALOT, I think it is normal though, most children do when they reach a certain age, for mine it was 13 for the girl and 14 for the boy, which I was told by the counselor was the age that the rebellion started. It is not that we didn't love our Mother's it is that we were trying to be indepedent and thought we had the knowledge to do so, but sadly we still needed our Mother's but would never admit. Your story hit a spot on me, thank you for sharing, it made me feel better about my Mother and hopefully it will help others too.
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@tinamwhite (3252)
• United States
16 May 07
My One and Only Daughter - This is a photo of my daughter...she is the only daughter that I have and we are very close....consequently we fight occassionally.....be we love each other just as passionately!!
Your daughter is being very mean to you lately, my friend....her attitude is getting increasingly worse... The chores that you are asking her to perform are minimal for her age...I would make her start doing all of her own laundry.....if she wanted clean clothes...I did this with all of my older children....it is good for her!I know the type of mother that you are...I know all of the extras that you do for your children... Right now she is running her mouth at you...what are you going to do when she raises her hands/fist to hit you??? It can happen...mine did so when she was about 14.... I only have one daughter....she and I have always been very close....but we also have had some really hard times...I would not wish these heartbreaking times on anyone else.... Her age is part of it...but please do not allow this to be used as an excuse for her behavior towards you....you deserve better from her, my friend..... My child would have already received a light snack on the mouth...not to hurt or cause any pain to her physically j but to gain attention to the fact that I am their mother and I will be respoected!!!.... I am a very caring person with a big heart but....I just could not tolerate that mouthing at me....even my 5 yr. old knows better than to talk crazy to me....I am willing to listen to anything that they want to discuss but will not tolerate...the "attitude" that your daughter is displaying.... I know how difficult this is for you, my friend....I am so sorry that your daughter is acting this way....I would also put an end to the "outside" priviledges while she was behaving this way!! You are rewarding her bad behavior and I do not think that is your intention.... Hang in there!!!!!
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
16 May 07
I remember the fights I used to have with my mom, and was hoping I wouldn't have to go through that with my own kids. She acts like we abuse her, and it ticks me off. Tonite I am expected to make almost 100 miniature cherry and peach tarts with her for her 5th grade luncheon on Friday, my hubby says let her do it all her self, give her the ingredients and the recipe and let her do it on her own. I just might, but I don't want her to think I'm turning my back on her. We went two days without really speaking over the weekend, as a matter of fact I sent her to her grandparents Saturday night because I needed away from her and they don't coddle her either. Being a parent has gotten so hard!
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• United States
16 May 07
I know that things are getting more difficult and they will continue to be difficult...but you still have some influence over what she does....there will come a time when all you can do is "live with her decisions"...it is called adulthood and that is REALLY hard sometimes too...we do not always make the best decisions and our children will unfortunantely do the less than intelligent things too....LOL I am glad that your husband is supporting you on this one!! It helps when they are not both "attacking you".. I know that you do not want to "let her down" but sweetie...she is letting you down and needs to realize that she has double standards for you and for herself and that is not fair to either of you......you HAVE to get through to her....somehow....or you will have many many years for heartache with her.....I am speaking from experience...I also never wanted to let my children down...BUT you cannnot become their doormat either.... I am praying for you, my friend.....I am feeling your stress level..... I know that you will handle this the best way you can...because that is what we all do....Tough Love is just that but it may save YOUR sanity in the long run... Have a blesed day....You are in my thoughts!
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• United States
7 Jun 07
I hope that by resolving this discussion, you have come to some sort of understnding with your daughter.... You are such a good mother....I hope that she realizes how lucky she is... Thanks for the best response.....I hope that I was helpful and things have calmed down somewhat....
• United States
16 May 07
All I can say is stand your ground. You are the parent and if you give in, your daughter will know your weakness. I know deep inside, she is suffering too because of that guilt eating her alive but then a teener's pride is not to be reckon with too, so don't expect to hear apologizing to you for what she had said. But if she is really sorry, she will tell you she is sorry and start doing her chores. I hate to mention this because I don't want anybody doing anything this to me...but have you tried giving her the silent treatment? Like a, "when you say nothing at all" type of thing. Not many people like this but they sure can feel that you are upset with them. If she gets this, she will come around and if she ask why are your "sort" of ignoring her and not giving her attention, be ready to sit down and explain things to them. Tell her the things that you do as a parent can't even compare to the chores you ask her to do. These chores she is doing will teach her responsibility. Remind her that she will not remain an 11 year old for the rest of her days. If she can't handle responsibility, then she will not able to make it in the real world. My 3 year old toddler blurted out one day that she doesn't want me to be her Mommy anymore because I let her pick up her toys, etc. Hearing that more or less breaks my heart BUT I know she is still confuse with her feelings and probably is upset why I demanded to let her pick up her toys before she can watch her favorite program on the tv. I sat down with her and look into her eyes and told her it is fine, she can look for another Mommy...a Mommy that will take care of her like I do, feed her, read her stories, draw with her, etc..etc. It didn't take less than a minute after I reminded her of all the things I do for her and showing her how much I love and treasure her that she declared, she doesn't want another Mommy because I am the best in the world. That make my heart swells but I know I will be facing this kind of situation in the future where my parenting skills will be question but I will stand my ground...I am the parent and my children should know better.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
16 May 07
Thanks for your advice. The situation with her is adding so much additional stress to the household. I hate to say it but I don't think explaining all the things I do for her would help, it's like she thinks it's my duty to run myself ragged for her, which is my own fault because I always have. I guess it's time to stop. She always says her friends don't have to do this or that and I just want to scream at her your friends parents also don't volunteer to do anything for them! I'm always the one giving rides here or there, they are always at our house, last Xmas we even had one of her friends with us because her mother took off and she had nowhere to go! Her attitude makes me question myself as a parent, and it shouldn't. No wonder I need headache pills...
• United States
16 May 07
my 16 year old started that last year, he now fights with simblings, stepdad, and sometimes me.I mean physically.. and mentally . It is a hard thing to deal with emotionally, physically and spritually.. My option advice or what ever you make of it is this. The hardest thing you can do my son is going to JOB CORPS he will be living in a dorm with other students, coming home on weekends if permitted,but at the same time he is learning respect responsibility, and depandence. Something we all as parents want our kids to learn. Hope this helps
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
16 May 07
It sounds like you have your hands full too. Job Corps may do him wonders, and I bet he gets a whole new apprecation for life at home. Good luck to you, and welcome to myLot!
• United States
16 May 07
"I hate you" is the most hurtful phrase a child can say to a parent. And they know it, I think. my daughter said it to me once- and she's only 6. It broke my heart. She felt really bad and cried and hugged me afterwards. The other day my 4 year old was crying because he skinned his knee. He dosn't like to be fussed over when he gets hurt. I cleaned his knee off and put a Bandaid on it and I said "See, Mommy's make it all better" and he said "No, mommy's are just mean!" That hurt as bad as the "I hate you"!!!
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• Canada
16 May 07
I've had my kids (5 & 7) tell me they hate me. I don't let it bother me. I respond with "Oh but I LOVE you" And then I give them lots of hugs and kisses. They hate that even more! I don't think kids develop a conscience on their own until they are like 20. So for those parents who have taught their kids to have a conscience before that time, Pony up, I wanna know how it's done too. LOL
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• United States
16 May 07
Don't feel stupid for being hurt. I remember the things I said to my parents at that age. She'll understand one day. Just don't back off. Once you do, she'll know exactly how to get out of it every time she doesn't want to do something. Try to ignore the things she says, as hard as it is. She's just testing you. It sounds like you are being a great mom, keep it up and don't lose heart.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
16 May 07
Welcome to myLot cheryl! I actually came into work today and apologized to my mom for the things I said to her as a teenager! She laughed and knew right away it was my oldest.
• United States
16 May 07
My father actually told my husband the things I used to say to him. I had no idea he even remembered that stuff. That made me feel terrible.
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@sbeauty (5865)
• United States
16 May 07
Baby, you ain't seen nothing yet! Wait until she's a real teen! I would advise you to defuse her as often as possible. Stay calm. She's wanting you to get upset. Ask her why she's saying these things to you. Ask her to name something good that you've done for her. While she's thinking, start listing some of the good things you've done for her. Prepare your list in advance so that you have the words when you need them. I always felt hurt, too, but as I've gotten older I've seen where I went wrong.
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• United States
16 May 07
There is nothing wrong with you asking your daughter to help out around the house at her age. She needs to start learning more responsibility and how to do a few things for herself. She is challenging you and you need to stand your ground. She still loves you, but she wants to bully you into giving in to her wishes and wants. Be firm and stick to your requests that you have made of her. She will see anything less as a sign of weakness that she can use as a way out. What we are actually talking about is classic manipulation here and she doesn't need to learn that manipulation works to her advantage, so show her that you mean business. It may be hard on both of you while she is learning this, but it is a valuable lession and one that will serve her well throughout life. Show her that she gets her privileges for cooperating and completing her chores, but that there is no payoff for not complying. You'll get through this and your relationship will be stronger for it. Best wishes.
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16 May 07
I think we do so much more for our kids nowadays, like you say pay for this, help them with that and when they do not show the same respect and get abusive towards us it does break our hearts. I have had a cry on my own before when I have done everything and my kids do not give anything back. But I have learnt from this and have had to be alot tougher with them and set boundaries I know I will carry out, not just give out false warnings. I think your daughter is just testing you and trying to get out of what she is expected to do. She knows what buttons to push and if she gets this reaction from you she feels that she is in control because there are no consequences for her actions. Tell her she has to do the chores and if she doesn't then she will have to loose out on something. Kids have to learn how to take responsibility and we know we would not have behaved like this with our parents because we knew what we'd have got!Working with kids myself, they will push and push, but most are actually wanting boundaries put in place. A child changes every 7 years and now your daughter is 14 yrs she is going to go through alot of changes, but she doesn't have to be rude. Be strong soccermom and don't let her see that this is upsetting you. Lay down the boundaries of tidying her room and doing certain chores, then she will reap the benefits, if not, then she will learn that you will not just hand everything to her on a plate. Believe me as a mum of a 17 yrs old, I have been there. Good luck and my thoughts are with you.
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@SpitFire179 (2536)
• Canada
17 May 07
why should you feel stupid for feeling hurt? hun, every parent feels that way, every adult, every child everyone, it's natural when someone says 'i hate you' But you also have to remember that you ARE a good mom, you do more for your kids then 10 regular parents do in a day, and THAT'S why she's angry, because she doesn't want to be responsible, she doesn't want to have to do any of these things, but it's okay, because she WILL thank you when she's older.
@KrisNY (7590)
• United States
16 May 07
This brought tears to my eyes reading the discussion. Those were very hurtful words- She said them out of being upset that you wanted her to help out more- Of course she doesn’t hate you- it is just something she said that she knew would get a rise out of you- Kind of like you bother me- I’m going to bother you- It still breaks our hearts! My daughter is 10- and hasn’t uttered those dreaded words to me yet. She did write it in her journal once we were shopping and she was being naughty in the store so I made her put her stuff back and leave the store- This was a few years ago- My mom was with us- she had a new journal and the first thing she wrote was I Hate my MOM! I was mortified- She ripped the page out and cried and told me that she was mad and loved me! Still it hurt- Chaulk it up to hormones with your daughter- I don’t think you are asking too much- My daughter does more chores than that! She made her own list though: ) Stick on her to do them and don’t let her use an attitude with you- I just told my daughter that I’m done doing fun things with her until she can be nice- I’m like you- I would move heaven and earth for her too- She is everything to me- But I refuse to reward bad behavior! Here’s a hug for you!
• India
16 May 07
Don't mind about what you kid says , i too realized my rude behavior towards my mom. In this case discussing the problems and make them feel what ever they do their parents are their with them. u try make them feel even if any thing happens u love them a lot.U should not force to do any thing u have to make them understand about the works which are necessary for her and what is her role in the family. i hope they soon realize and make u feel good about yourself.
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@onabreak2 (1161)
• United States
17 May 07
Bratty kid - bratty kid
It is probably a hormone thing and I would not take it personal. It isn't nice though. Girls seem to always have to be mouthy when they are going through puberty. She will get over it I am sure. She probably will feel real bad about this at some time in her life. She should have to do chores though . As a matter of fact if she is going to mouth off about it you might want to show her she doesn't get rewarded for mouthing off and add a chore. You have to be consistent with them no matter how miserable they make you. Good luck, things will get better.
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@castleghost (1304)
• United States
16 May 07
My girlfriend uses a unique way to parent. Whenever the children decide that they no longer want to do their chores she doesn't punish them. What she does is explain to them that since they are unable to keep their end of the bargain up that she is also going to be unable to keep hers up as well. For every chore that they don't complete there is something that she doesn't do for that child as well. If one of the children doesn't remember to put the dishes away she will point out that she is unable to cook the next meal because she has to put the dishes away instead. Or if one of the children doesn't put their toys up she will get a grabage bag to help the put their toys up. She points out that when everyone pitches in to do their fair share everything runs smoothly but if someone fails to do their job then everyone pays the price.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
16 May 07
No you are not stupid for feeling so hurt as I did to when my Girl went through it No matter how much we know it is the Hormones it still hurts I actually went as far as saying to my Girl in a very quiet and hurt Voice well fine if you hate me I can get over that but you will still do it no matter how much you hate me, that actually shocked her a bit Bear with it Sweet it will pass and maybe when she is in a better mood, tell her how much she is hurting you and ask her how she would like it if you said that to her
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• United States
16 May 07
You can't blame yourself for how your child acts. You can teach them all the manners in the world, but it is up to them whether or not they use it. You need to stand firm and put your foot down on this one. Children, especially pre-teens, will do whatever they think that they can get away with. You need to rule your home with an iron fist. You will be met with much resistance in the beginning, but if you give her no other choice but to comply, she eventually will.
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