Womens place in religion, Jewish, christian, muslim
By EvanHunter
@EvanHunter (4026)
United States
May 31, 2007 6:15pm CST
I have seen alot of people on here (women mostly) very angry over Islam treatment of women in their religion. I ran accross this the other night and I found it to be a bit ironic considering that most of the women on here who complain about Islam say they are Christians. So what do you think of the following statements, keep in mind I didnt say them just repeating what is written.
Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, and let others judge.
And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in the church.
Keep in mind I didnt write this and I purposefully left out the source just to see who might jump to conclusions about where I found it.
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
31 May 07
it comes from the bible and was written by Paul however it for yeaRS has been taken out of the context for wich it was written it was said because of gosiping in the church and the same saying would apply to men .
I t was not the word of christ himself who said
26. You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,
27. for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, ((male nor female)), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
1 Jun 07
I must admit I had already been explained that this was not to do with male/female but actually to do with meetings of the ministers. Female represents those who arent called to minister (men and women). The husband represents your local church leader atleast that is the way I was told it breaks down. But in a very sinful approach I just thought I would throw it out and see how it was taken. After readig a few replies I can see it was definately taken differently.
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@Qcorianne (26)
• United States
1 Jun 07
Ah, Saul/Paul rears his ugly head yet again. I've always found it interesting that so many people rely on the words of a religious leader who was trying to redeem himself with his superiors when he converted to Christianity. He was lack luster as a Jewish leader and was trying to get position by persecuting the new religious sect who followed Jesus of Nazareth when he had his conversion experience. This passage that you quoted is actually one of many that has caused some Christians (male and female) to question the validity of including Saul/Paul's letters in the Bible. Unfortunately, there is no revised version in sight, so this is what you've got.
Thanks for starting a discussion that makes people think. A lot of people who have "read" the Bible aren't familiar with that passage.
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
1 Jun 07
I cant say that I was relying on it and its certainly not the way things our in my house, pfft I wish!! LOL. But I kind of did it to open peoples eyes to their own religion. Alot of people bash other religions and I feel that its wasting time if your faith is secure than talk about your own religion and the comfort that god has brought you. you will never win hearts and minds of people by attacking them or their beliefs but you can win their hearts by showing them a better way by example, just my crazy opinion I know but what could it hurt to try it.
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@blackkatdreamer (1461)
• Canada
31 May 07
actually I kind of agree that the bible does not look kindly on women
Isa 3:12 — As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
1 Tim 2:8-11 — I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
I guess women have no great roles in regular religions
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@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
1 Jun 07
I don't know about having great roles but the man was made out of dirt but the women came from a rib. Israel is portrayed as a bride in many scriptures and only one women that I know was treated badly that was Jezebel but the men in their great roles as prophets and whatever was beaten, killed, threw in fire, cast to the lions, hung,whipped, why didn't he give these roles to the women if they are looked down on in the scriptures. I think a lot of our concepts are because of our time period don't forget Shaul or Paul was talking to Corinthians and their culture was pagans, Idols at the temples, and you name it, the Hebrew culture would never had been taught their place in this manner it was established many centuries before.
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@londongirl (207)
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31 May 07
Actually I'm not Muslim or christian, at least coming from my family I had a choice, I don't think Muslim women are allowed such luxuries!!
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@Gordano (795)
• United States
16 Jun 07
I 'm Not interested In comparative Studies , specially when It Comes To religions , But considering your Discussion is about women in Jewish, Christian, Muslim , It will be appropriate to refer you to a discussion I have read and I think It is related to your Discussion .
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/943561.aspx
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