ALL Religions are Rubbish, Nonsense FAIRYTALES- So GET OVER IT!!!

@megs85 (3145)
Australia
June 1, 2007 12:25am CST
I can't believe ALL the narrow minded ignorance rampant in this forum. Rate me however you like but I will say what I like- beauty of freedom of speech. And this discussion does in NO way breach mylots guidelines. Discussion after discussion about religious beliefs and texts and blah blah blah always seem to end up in slinging matches. Why cant everyone agree to disagree? You can share your opinion... you can make a statement... but when you all claim yours is the one true religion, and everyones going to hell and blah blah blah blur blur blur... it makes me want to vomit. Guess what. Noone knows whats real. Even if you think you do. You dont And thats the simple truth to the matter. Texts can be forged, stories warped in time. No physical evidence to support any religion that could not have been forged. So eat me alive if you dare and anyone that can prove to me the existence of their God with irrefutable and physical evidence will convert me on the spot. And with confidence I laugh, because I know no such thing exists. So in other words, if someone has a view regarding your religion you disagree with or dont like... get over it...
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@Galena (9124)
1 Jun 07
you said it yourself. no one KNOWS what's real. even you. although you go on to say you do. I don't care what you beleive or don't beleive. but this post is more of that narrow minded ignorance you speak of. who are you to criticise anothers deeply held spiritual beleifs. I wouldn't do it to you, so why would you feel the need to do it to others. I don't need to prove the reality of my beleifs to you. there is proof enough in my life for me, and it's only me I have to draw my conclusions for. if you can't be respectful, then hold your tongue. and I'd say the same to anyone of any religion or none at all.
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• United States
1 Jun 07
Galena- I could not have said it better myslef. Religious beliefs, or the lack of them, aside, megs has chosen the same road of narrow-mindedness that she rants about. You are right that we only will answer for ourselves and our individual beliefs. I also do not feel the need to PROVE anything, I have the proof I need.
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@Galena (9124)
2 Jun 07
but then that attitude is a bit odd to me too. if someone beleives a religion "just in case" then how do they decide which one to beleive. I beleive wholeheartedly in my Gods. I've seen them, smelt them, spoken with them, and that's good enough for me.
@miamilady (4924)
• United States
2 Jun 07
You do realize that you contradicted yourself don't you? In one part you say "nobody knows" and that people should agree to disagree then later you say that you "know no such thing exists". I won't try to prove to you that these things do exist, but you can't really prove that they don't.
@miamilady (4924)
• United States
2 Jun 07
Oh, and I forgot to mention, that although you start off accusing people of being narrow minded, you come across as pretty narrow minded yourself.
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@tredale (1313)
• Australia
1 Jun 07
Well I will rate you highly I totally agree. I want real people and proof or no go for me either. I think its sad thousands and thousands of people fall into the same trap and have for thousands of years. I watched this thing on tv the other night and I happen to agree. If your parents are a political party you arent known as that partys name but if your catholic your known as a catholic family. right follow me so far. This program said we brain wash our kids and if you get in early enough they will just believe what you have to say. See you have to be 18 to vote but fed rubbish can happen from birth. You would think a decission this big would be a important as what political party you vote for.
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@tombiz (2039)
• Philippines
1 Jun 07
We respect your personal position and/or opinion on this matter. You are right, if others will disagree with your opinion, then let it be. While we have our own opinion, we should not force anybody to adopt the same. Everybody has the freedom to believe whatever he/she wants to believe. This is essentially freedom. Let us respect the ideas of others and let others respect our own. Live and let live. Right?
• United States
1 Jun 07
WHy do u have so much hostility? personally, I don't believe in organized religion because there r so many out there and there's really no way to know which one is the correct one. So I do agree with you on that one. However, there's no need to ridicule others becuase of their faith. That's just not right. They're not doing anything wrong. Just becuase you feel that way, doesn't mean that your right...or wrong. There could be such a thing as one true religion. You don't know that. There is a posibility to EVERYTHING. Remember that. But you need to give respect to others no matter what their beliefs are. And right now u r being disrespectful.
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• United States
2 Jun 07
I don't call Christianity an organized religion, unless you're referring to the biblical Armageddon in Revelation. Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ, not an organized religion!
• United States
4 Jun 07
I'm sorry ajmccrary, but you completely missed my point.
@ellie26 (4128)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 07
Hello megs85, each and everyone is entitled to voice their opinion on any issue and you are no exception. I will not say whether I agree or disagree with you on this topic. But I do know I have my faith in my religion and no one can take that away from me.
@ellie26 (4128)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 07
If you have decided to be an atheist, I respect your decision. But I am of the opinion that it is not a wise decision to bring others into what you choose not to believe.
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@lecanis (16739)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
1 Jun 07
I can agree to disagree. =p As long as people treat me and others of my religion fairly when it comes to our human rights, I don't particularly care what they think of my religion. I will inform when someone is spouting misinformation, but continuing to argue when I realize the person is just being hateful... that's not my style. As far as my opinion on anyone else's religion, it's fairly simple. They're all perfectly valid ideas and paths, they're just not mine. And even if not one other human being on earth believed as I did, I would still be happy in my own faith, so I have no need to convert or argue.
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@lecanis (16739)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
1 Jun 07
Thanks!
• Brazil
4 Jun 07
Hi, Do you believe in Jesus? In its miracles? I am not religious! I am a follower of Jesus! Believe it! Jesus is the truth Antonio Valmir
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3 Jun 07
religions, as the strict meaning of churches, bibles, coran and so on, are indeed rubbish. they were invented by MEN in order to keep the other men under control. something like a brain wash. "do that or don't do that because otherwise god / allah / budha will strike you down" ...
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@EvanHunter (4030)
• United States
2 Jun 07
Wow for being 21 years old you seem pretty cynical and pessimistic point of view. Granted its your right to feel whatever you want to feel in life but its not your right to criticize anyone who does find comfort in their beliefs. You are taking it on faith that you are right and that everyone else is wrong which is the same thing you are complaining of others.
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@vis3r3 (100)
• Slovenia
2 Jun 07
I Don't Believe In god, But I Don't Claim The Universe Was Created The Scientific Way Either, Because I Don't Know. What Bothers Me Is Believers Claim It Happened Their Way, And Also Try Spreading It Around. Learn To Say "I Don't Know".
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• India
2 Jun 07
there is only one religion: that is karma or deed. How you live and treat others is religion. How you conduct you daily life is religion. Religion is a way of life, a philosophy, not worship.
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• India
2 Jun 07
Religions are manmade they don't have any reality only due to the works the cast and religens are made
@Bee1955 (3887)
• United States
2 Jun 07
You're correct! Tell her what she's won, Johnny!
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@worldwise1 (14890)
• United States
2 Jun 07
How dare you tell me-or anyone else, for that matter-that my God is not real? You are much too full of yourself, and I only hope that when the day comes that you really need something to believe in that your FAIRYTALE characters will be there to bring you through it.
@vivienna (583)
• Venezuela
1 Jun 07
Are you looking for freedom of speech? So do I. But the essence of freedom is tolerance and respect. I don't find them in your post. myLot is a discussion forum, so everybody sticking to the rules may express his thoughts, inclusive when they are 'rubbish' in your eyes. But do you think that anger and ridicule can help your point of view? While I pay much attention to other people's worldview and like to enter in argument sustained discussions, I know there's no argument strong enough for those who are already wise in their own opinion. I'll better accept your advice and get over your disagreement. Remember: tolerance and respect. :)
@Springlady (4011)
• United States
1 Jun 07
You sound so bitter and angry. I'm sorry you feel the way you do...esp about the Lord. I pray that one day you will come to know Him. To all that do not believe: you are in the shock for all eternity.
• United States
1 Jun 07
Yeah, that is a good candy bar. Don't know what it has to do with this though.
• United States
1 Jun 07
You are pretty cool yourself! lol!
• United States
1 Jun 07
You are pretty cool yourself! lol!
@hoz9991 (306)
1 Jun 07
I agree with you entirely. You can believe what you want, but you shouldn't force what you believe on other people. I myself do not believe that there is a 'creator' but i understand why people do believe. For me, I would have to experience some evidence to support any kind of religion. Even though I do not follow any religion directly, I believe a lot of the morals and ethics of certain churches are correct. Its people that say that you can't be a good person because you don't go to church that really annoy me. Its wrong to judge people from where you are standing. It's all about perception.
@megs85 (3145)
• Australia
1 Jun 07
This is kinda the point I was trying to get at. Maybe I phrased it a little harshly but all I was trying to say was people should not force their beliefs that they cannot prove on to others, and its hard to stomach everyone from every different religion claiming theres is the one true god and the one true religion. Usually, different religions dont bother me all that much. But with the number of times I see on here, the close mindedness of SOME, not all religious people as they quote this or that and tell me Im going to hell because I dont believe in their religion... c'mon. I didnt mention my beliefs in the original post and everyone has assumed Im an atheist which i find kinda amusing... I believe in various things from various cultures, because in all honesty I believe that any higher power out there has to be one and the same no mater what face (different religion) you put on it if that makes sense. Usually i am quite respectful and tolerant of various religions but Ive had enough. If I can (usually) respect other peoples choices then why cant they respect mine, or other peoples, or each others? Why all the bs started in the name of religion and God- wars, deaths, murders, torture? Are these people merely using God as an excuse for their own means? At the end of the day I spoke a little generally, but I have noticed that the people who have responded here are not the same people who have tried to "brainwash" people all over this forum. N.B I will respond to everyones response later, but the next two days are going to be hectic and I was exoecting such a large response. So please be patient and I will address your view and compare it with my own.
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@Galena (9124)
2 Jun 07
to be fair, do you not think that you're trying just as hard to force atheism, which just the same as any other beleif, can't actually be proved, on other people who are free to find their own path just as you are.
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@hoz9991 (306)
2 Jun 07
Thanks for your response Megs. I don't think this discussion is trying to force Atheism on people. I think people are too quick to stereotype people as atheists (a person that ACTIVELY believes there is no God), when they consider themselves more agnostic (someone that believes the evidence for and against the existence of God is inconclusive). In order for somebody to believe anything there has to evidence to prove it, otherwise people will rather not believe. Some people find that their sacred bibles or books are evidence but others believe that it is very weak evidence. If I told you that I was a millionaire, you would want proof of it. If I could show you my bank balance with £1 million in you would believe me. But until then you would be skeptical, and seek proof.
@xbrendax (2668)
• United States
1 Jun 07
I do not believe in anything, nor am I afraid of anything, however I think people HAVE to believe in a higher power in order to live their lives. My own sister said she has to believe in something, even if it is a fairytale, it makes her feel better somehow. I must admit, it does sound wonderful doesn't it, the idea we'll all get to be together in a beautiful golden heaven where's there nothing but pure love, wow what a wonderful fantisy! Wish I could believe but I can't!
@xbrendax (2668)
• United States
1 Jun 07
You might as well save your breath. You talking to me about god is like I am looking at a bright blue wall and you and every other believer are trying to convince me it is a red wall, ain't gonna happen, I know a blue wall when I see one! No one can convince me of anything no matter how long they rattle on! I WISH I was like you, you sound so at peace but I can not believe!
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• United States
1 Jun 07
I'm sorry. I am at peace and I believe with all my heart that you can be too. It's a process really...not something that can happen overnight though there are some that say that once they accept Jesus into their hearts, they have instant peace. For me, it is a growing process. I am growing stronger in my faith in Him. Sorry I babbled!
@barehugs (8992)
• Canada
1 Jun 07
Religion is BIG MOney..... The Catholic Church is One of the Richest Organizations On Earth, It owns Part of General Motors Corporation, So your right, megs, but your wrong! You weren't looking at the Bottom Line!-:) As for the existance of God....Thats easy! There's Never Ever been 2 identical snowflakes. When you first hold your new Baby.... Look me in the eye and say, "God doesn't exist!".. I'll dare You. I rest my Case!
@xbrendax (2668)
• United States
1 Jun 07
Hold a starving, dying baby from Africa and ask the same question, I dare YOU!
@Galena (9124)
2 Jun 07
have you checked all of the snowflakes? again, there is no proof that is true should I ever have children I'm sure I will thank MY Gods for them. it may prove there is something, but it doesn't prove that it's your version of the something. everyone sees their own God in the beauty of creation. so that alone is not proof.
@Ravenladyj (22992)
• United States
3 Jun 07
"When you first hold your new Baby.... Look me in the eye and say, "God doesn't exist!".. I'll dare You. I rest my Case!" ROFLMFAO...you rest NOTHING...I have looked into the eyes of my newborn children and NO GOD came to mind..NONE....I MADE those children...me and their fathers END OF STORY...no god took part in anything and I saw and still to this day see beauty, love, purity, and so on when I look at my kids...but not once have i EVER seen "god" when I look at them