Should the Vatican Share what's in there Secret Library?

@cook4t7 (202)
United States
June 4, 2007 6:49am CST
It's very well known of the Vatican's most elaborate Library, which they keep under heavy guard, and has the largest collection of original documents. They claim having the spear that pierced the side of Jesus, pieces of his crucifixion cross, a spike, and the bones of Peter. Since the Bible which we have with us today was put together after Constantine had Jerome study Hebrew so he could translate the original to Latin and canonized what he thought was to his approval. No one can even come near what is in the vaulted library, and when they do they are no cameras allowed, guards are over their shoulder, and they say what can be seen. Should they show the originals and what they have hid to the world from what they translated it from, that may answer some contradictions that are in the Bible, or is the way they act just a little wrong?
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• United States
4 Jun 07
I assume you are talking about the Vatican Secret Archives. You can take a virtual tour, download files and order a CD/DVD with pictures of the original documents on it. This website will direct you. asv.vatican.va/home_en.html The archives have been open to scholars since 1881 and currently are open to Researchers from Sept through July. Of course you need approval to enter, but that is to preserve the ancient artifacts. As for the contradictions in the Bible, I don't believe there are any. St. Augustine said that Scripture interprets itself. Any seemingly contradictory passages can be answered by a different passage.
@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
4 Jun 07
Why do they call it the secret Archives? I'll check the website but sure I've done been there and it only gives what they post. I watched a documentary with a researcher and it's a fact only certain items will they let you see and under strict watch. Who's St. Augustine just another person as you and I. If you would please answer this passage by another passage, Mat, 2:23 states that the scripture prophesied Jesus being called a Nazarene, refer that scripture in the Old Testament to me so I can check it. Have you seen the original New testament from which the one we have was translated by Jerome from? thanks for your response and hope to hear from you on this.
• United States
5 Jun 07
It was termed Vatican Secret Archives in 1610. It's called secret primarily because it is the private archive of the Pope. At the time, "secret" was used in both secular and ecclesiastical courts for the person closest to the prince(secular)/Pope (ecclesiastical) and his family. It's like the President's cabinet and the Secretary of State, etc. For the Pope, the most essential part of his court is the foundation of Christianity, the teaching of Christ as passed on through the Apostles, those documents held in the Secret Archives. St. Augustine was just another person like you and I in the sense that he was a sinful human. He is certainly not like us in that he was a Doctor of the Church, the Bishop of Hippo, and was alive in the 4th century when there was only one Christian Church. Isaiah 11:1 - There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a branch shall grow out of his roots. Obviously because the word "Nazarene" does not appear in this passage it was a bone of contention from the beginning. St. Jerome wrote that the Hebrew idiom, coming from the word nezer, is written as 'There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Nazarene shall grow out of his roots.' He also freely admitted that there are "difficulties" but always maintained the inerrancy of Scripture. He said that when the New Testament quotes the Old Testament, it's done according to the Spirit and not the letter. No, I haven't seen the text that Jerome translated from, but it would all be Greek to me anyhow:)
@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
5 Jun 07
The text that Jerome translated from should have been in Hebrew because he had to study it to do the task. In his letters he expresses his dread even facing the work because of the corruption that already had taken place to the scrolls. If we give an excuse of the letter not having to match from the Old to the New this would leave a door open as wide as Texas and every interpretation that could be Imagined which already expresses about 3000 different beliefs. In the New Testament we read how they search the scriptures to see if what was being taught them was so, as with the Bareans, what if when they searched the word it was not as was told them, I'm sure it would have read differently than many believed and was added to the assembly. They would have pointed these discrepancies out real fast. I did check the website out and it's really great and I'm sure I'll be studying it a lot for that I thank you very much and also your response
• Philippines
5 Jun 07
There are some thing that we need to understand, Yes maybe we must try to figure out things that makes us believe and increase some faith, although, some restrictions and rules to follow in accordance maybe to solemnity and sometimes also because of great respect that is not hidden anyway in my own opinion because GOD shows everything even if it means revealing HIS OWNSELVES TO US IN A FORM OF A MAN. It is always great if we just have faith to our GOD'S choosen EARTH FATHERS OF FAITH, simply because GOD has already choosen each and everyone even if we were not in this WORLD yet. GODBLESS.
@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
5 Jun 07
In the Old Testament they were many in the Jewish nation that were following Earthly fathers and I'm sure they expressed not to challenge their approval. But Eliyahu or Elijah was sent to bring the fathers back to the sons or ( get back under the true name and the law) and proved it through the power of God for which they still later tried to hunt him down and kill him to the extent he thought he was the last one to believe and wanted to die, but there was a remnant of 7,000 still followed the truth. In the New testament we had the same situation with the sadducees and the Pharisees and I'm sure their followers felt not to challenge them either. But we know the truth about that so to seek the truth above just taking anything for granted, is I feel expected of us and to realize the mistakes in scripture are not by the Fathers but mans. I do feel that if they are originals setting someplace the world should have access to them unless there's something to hide. Thank you for your response Shalom
• Philippines
11 Jun 07
Yes, maybe you are write when you discuss about the Old Testament from Elijah and in New Testaments, that is true written as what you have said with my response to you!!! Let us try to figure it out in a very simple and detailed ways. In the Old Testament, JESUS PRESENCE were not within yet, if I am right! Surely I am but in reality on the Prophecies He will be FORETOLD everytime. On the NEW TESTAMENTS you said the Saduccess and Parisess were trying to be on that what we call a little bet understandable because they seems to believe the FATHER GOD, still forgotten the SCRIPTURES LAMINATION OF WORDS, and the WORD becomes FLESH and DWELLS amongs us but deny's JESUS, correct me if I am wrong. Now we go to the PRESENT situations, Believe in the SERVANT OF GODS, YES, you are right, we have all the right to know everything, the unrevealed stories behind some passages and secret's of our FAITH. As I said HOLY FATHER'S CHOOSEN, then that is what we are now, because by the POWER of BAPTISM we inherit the 3 Characteristics of JESUS CHRIST, to be a PRIEST, KING and PROPHET. Then everybody is included in the said words, we are a Universal Priest and the CELEBRANT is what we see on the HOLY MASS performing the CELEBRATION OF THE HOLY MASS which were ORDAINED upon fulfilling HIS Vocation, they are our representatives I think. Then If we lose Faith to them, whom shall we go through!!! They were CHOOSEN, "PETER, upon this ROCK I will build my CHURCH and Whose SIN you FORGIVE, I WILL FORGIVE AND WHOSE SIN YOU DO NOT FORGIVE I WILL NOT FORGIVE" And it was being said that what they permit will be permited. Please as I said correct this if this is wrong!!! But in my own Opinion, THE PRIEST AND THE HOLY FATHER'S are still the reliable person to lean on. PRAISE GOD!!!!!!!!
@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
12 Jun 07
It would be impossible for me to correct something that is based so heavily on mans traditions than on the scriptures Sorry.