QUICK! Get In While it's Still Easy!!

United States
June 11, 2007 10:35am CST
This just makes me sick. Now the illegals are flocking to get in while it is still easy and FREE while the "pending" reform is still doing nothing, 28,000 MORE in less than a week! Opinions please, don't you think more should be done? During the two weeks that the Senate debated a "grand bargain" immigration bill – and then gave up last Thursday – America had to absorb an estimated 28,000 MORE illegal aliens. That massive rate of lawlessness is just the reason the Senate should make a second try at reform soon. Full Story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070611/cm_csm/eimmigration_1
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@pallidyne (858)
• United States
11 Jun 07
"Give me your poor, your huddled masses..." We really should consider just tearing down the Statue of Liberty. It is bad enough we can't go up to the torch, but now we forget this important message. We are all immigrants or children of them. Georgia was a prison colony. Ok, that being said, show me the unemployed person that wants to do the job a migrant farm worker does? We've created a spoiled generation in many places who simply won't do many of the jobs that need to be done in the manual labor category. And who will? Folks coming here looking for a better life. Its time for the entire immigration system to have and overhaul. It is too easy to bring in a higher class technical person who is just going to work here for a little while and take all their capital back home, than it is for someone who wants to change their life for the better to come here and raise their family. And due to it being so illegal for many to be here, they are exploited, they never pay taxes, and help fund a criminal underground that will make fake papers, etc for them. You sound like you have a problem with the law being broken--- Well so do I, but in this case the law is wrong and needs to be corrected, and amnesty might be one way of pulling the pendulum back to a more moderate and middle position. Remember many of these folks join the armed forces to gain their citizenship. Many have already given their lives in Afghanistan and Iraq. You almost have to ask, should we fall short in troop count, would you rather open the borders to willing volunteers or institute the draft again and grab unwilling sons and daughters?
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• United States
11 Jun 07
They do not want to obey the laws we have now. I also think they will not want to obey any new "corrected" laws. I am disgusted because I came here legally and that is why I don't see whey the illegals should get rewarded for breaking the law.
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11 Jun 07
Ok, that being said, show me the unemployed person that wants to do the job a migrant farm worker does? I can show you plenty that DO the job of migrant farm workers, including my grand mother who retired from it. Give me a break, don’t be one to push that propaganda manure for heartstrings to swing on. By your logic one would think America wouldn’t have gotten this far if it wasn’t for illegals doing all the work. Last, I am Irish American Indian, my father's parents came here on a boat and had NO problem going through the legal process to become Americans. They were always proud that they did and often showed their papers and retold their story. Why is it this is so beneath these illegals to do?
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• United States
11 Jun 07
Elp, As always a great response. I and all the other citizens, naturalized or by birth, thank you for laying it on the line.
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@castleghost (1304)
• United States
12 Jun 07
Our problem in this country is that our government makes laws that they don't make sure get enforced. We are suppose to have a fence built between the United States and Mexico by December. The fence is suppose to be I believe eight hundred fifty miles long. How far has the fence gotten? Well about eleven miles has been built. The Congress and Senate can pass all the laws that they want but until we actually start enforcing the laws its not going to matter. Yes, I would like for the people who allow illegal immigrants to work for them to have a stiffer punishment as well as the people who give them a place to live. Remove their property from them for committing these crimes. Maybe if the people who are choosing to break the law by helping an illegal immigrant lose their property they just might think twice before breaking the law. Give only true American citizens public assistance and social security. If we quit giving the illegal immigrants the free handouts like medical care or foodstamps, a place to live, or a job then they won't have a reason to want to come to this country.
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• United States
12 Jun 07
All the immigrants are welcome in our country but they must do it the legal way.
@speakeasy (4215)
• United States
11 Jun 07
Actually, no one really wants that bill to pass the Senate, let alone the House and the President. A lot of us don't want it to pass because it is "selling" America to any one who sneaked across the border or over stayed their welcome and is now here illegally. Other people don't want it to pass because they want more illegals to come in. Bush "claims" he wants it to pass; but he, really wants a "North American Union" to be formed and it would be easier if more of Mexico was already inside our border and we gave up on getting them sent home. Just search "North American Union" and see what is going on. Bush will never be President of the Untited States again after his term is up. But, if he can be said to be a "founder" of the North American Union; he might end up in "charge" of that and that would put him in charge of THREE countries instead of just one. Makes you think; doesn't it?
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• United States
12 Jun 07
I sure does and puts another slant on it I never thought about! Many thanks for your very interesting response.
@inked4life (4228)
• United States
11 Jun 07
It's kinda frustrating for people like myseld and our family who are currently going through the green card process. Something that is likely to take 2-3 years at best and cost in the region of $6000 (luckily my wife's work is footing the bill)...something really has to be done.
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• United States
12 Jun 07
I am sorry because I can feel for you having been there and done that.
• United States
11 Jun 07
Americans have never cared that people come from all over and join this land. But these people do it legally and I think that if the reforms allows the illegals to get their way and their citizenship than there is something wrong. Other people have come here and joined our country and went by the law to do it. We are going to have a big problem if we let this reform pass or any one of the reforms that closely resemble they want to pass. The illegal immigrants are not following the law and therefore do not deserve to be here. There are a lot of hard working people and to be undermined by some illegal immigrants is not right. The heritage of all of us can be researched back to coming from another country. That makes us immigrants. I guess that means we don't have to pay taxes. Right. This is not being disputed because they are immigrants but because they came here illigally. That is what has everyone upset. They are given no consequences for what they did and in fact they are going to be rewarded. Not right at all.
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• United States
12 Jun 07
Thanks I am glad you see it also as being rewarded for breaking the law.
@herrbaggs (1308)
• United States
11 Jun 07
I don't really think we need any more legislation, all that is needed is to enforce the laws that are on the books. If you hire them then you pay or go to jail. With out employers they would go home. But before they go, I could sure use a couple of them around here for a couple of months. In fact I would probably give them a permanent place to live and if they would fix me bean burritos for lunch everyday, all the better. Unfortunately this is how it works in real life.
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• United States
11 Jun 07
So true, excellent points! These employers are what's called enablers and they are using them illegally and should be heavily fined as that would be where it hurts them the most - in their wallets.
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• United States
12 Jun 07
has anybody taken into consideration that once these illegals are legal, they will be entitled to better wages, more insurance coverage, etc. just like Americans? then the employers won't have their cheap labor anymore and we'll be in a hell of a mess. and i agree that when it is said that they are doing the jobs that Americans won't do, that it is because Americans don't get the chance to do. most Americans will do anything to support their family. and if the welfare system was reformed (a completely different discussion), the few many Americans who are on assistance would be made to do the work. or work release programs for prisoners if the jobs are truly despicable. i say, round em all up, throw em all out, fence the border, and take applications to get back in.
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@Lakota12 (42794)
• United States
12 Jun 07
I tried to read the URL it said it had expired lol so I didnt get the whole story. BUt we do need a fix pretty damn soon and I dont think it should be to let them get any thing free!
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@Lakota12 (42794)
• United States
12 Jun 07
yup thats what I mean it copied and pasted in to address bar I will have to try again later thanks hugs
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@gabs8513 (48803)
• United Kingdom
13 Jun 07
Yes I do think that more should be done but then again a lot more should have been done Years ago and we would not be in the Position that we are in now
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• United States
13 Jun 07
Very true.
@jennybianca (12918)
• Australia
12 Jun 07
28,000 new illegals is an incredible lot of people. Are you saying it is this many new people every week? Thats amazing. Where do they all go? Who pays for their healthcare? What about education of their children? And how, most importantly,how are they getting in?
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• United States
12 Jun 07
That is the estimated amount since the proposed bill went into a wait and see status (last Thursday). Our taxes, which they dont pay, covers all emergency heathcare, icluding childbirth which makes their children automatically US citizens, education is also covered. These are some of the reasons that so many US legal residents and citizens are so outraged. They don't want to speak English, obey our laws or pay taxes They get in by sneaking across the borders
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@herrbaggs (1308)
• United States
11 Jun 07
I don't really think we need any more legislation, all that is needed is to enforce the laws that are on the books. If you hire them then you pay or go to jail. With out employers they would go home. But before they go, I could sure use a couple of them around here for a couple of months. In fact I would probably give them a permanent place to live and if they would fix me bean burritos for lunch everyday, all the better. Unfortunately this is how it works in real life.
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@herrbaggs (1308)
• United States
11 Jun 07
Go ahead rub it in. I can't help how this hill billy internet works. They use goats, chip monks and clothes hanger wire.
• United States
11 Jun 07
I am thinking that until the law goes into effect this will be the story. It would be nice if we could see a little more effort to keep them out, but I don't think that will happen. There will have to be a whole new law to cover this group of illegals. I wonder when someone will open their eyes and see that this influx is going to cause a lot more problems. To my way of thinking we have already had ample proff that being nice does not get you anywhere.
• United States
13 Jun 07
The way is going I dont think it is going to be anytime soon.
@classy56 (2884)
• United States
12 Jun 07
this just makes me so mad an sick!.to think the goverment would let this happen 28,000 immigration thats way to many..the illegal aliens come to the united states an bank our money an than send it to mexico or were ever an also the health care they get for free an food stamps.while the american people stills struggle to make ends meet.i feel the goverment should take care of their own people frist an send the aliens back home.before you know it "the united states will be know as free immgration country..doors are open! come on it .makes me mad to talk about it!
@worldwise1 (14890)
• United States
12 Jun 07
Score another one for Mr. Bush, whiteheather. He is bound and determined to push this bill through. By now you've probably heard the latest-he has said he is not going to give up on this bill. I guess he plans to browbeat all opponents into submission.
@herrbaggs (1308)
• United States
11 Jun 07
I don't really think we need any more legislation, all that is needed is to enforce the laws that are on the books. If you hire them then you pay or go to jail. With out employers they would go home. But before they go, I could sure use a couple of them around here for a couple of months. In fact I would probably give them a permanent place to live and if they would fix me bean burritos for lunch everyday, all the better. If they are made legal I will have to pay them more and have to let them go. Then they will have to smuggle in more relatives to take thier place and help support them.Unfortunately this is how it works in real life.
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• United States
12 Jun 07
shocking isnt it