What would you have done? Please read on...

@dana234 (2114)
Spain
July 15, 2007 1:34pm CST
Our neighbours, a couple in their thirties are forever violently arguing and making up afterwards. Today he was holding her down to the floor by the throat and hitting her at the same time. We live two floors above and I could see what was going on. I shouted out of the window that I was going to call the police if he didn´t leave her alone. To my surprise, he did. My husband told me that I shouldn´t interfere, because when he sees them they are always kissing and hugging. I´ve also seen it, but that doesn´t mean that I won´t do anything while he is trying to strangle her. I don´t think that I´m interfering where I shouldn´t. She´s not the typical victim (she insults him and throws things at him), but does that mean he´s got the right to hit her? Even if they make up afterwards? Should I just mind my own business? Am I overreacting? Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
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@GardenGerty (157551)
• United States
15 Jul 07
Do not threaten, just please do call the police. I had a similar situation, and it involved both parties drinking. The long and short of it is that my neighbor was murdered by her husband. I was so remorseful for so many years afterwards. I did not want to believe he did it in the first place. I did hear them argue, she did miss work because she "fell down the basement stairs" and had horrible bruises. I did offer her a place to go to get away, but she refused, saying that she would lose her house, as it was all she had. I did not call the police when they were yelling and screaming and drunk and fighting. I turned away and did not look, I minded my own business. I was ready to call the police "the next time it happens". The next time, he took her to the basement and killed her. I should have known better. I watched my uncle try to kill his wife when drunk. I do not drink. I saw my sister go back time and again to an abusive husband, because she "loved" him, for thirty years, to the point that their children were ruined. I made sure I did not marry someone like that. I heard my neighbors argue and scream, and I did nothing. It is my fault.
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
15 Jul 07
I sincerely appreciate your sincere response. You´ve been through a lot and I feel for you. I am truly sorry for what happened to your sister and your children. You probably heard this a hundred times, but it´s not your fault. We all choose who we want to be with (to a certain extend). Unfortunately we can´t stop a woman to love and defend a man who is abusive. Our neighbour fears the police, that´s why he stopped when I shouted at him, but that´s not a guaranty that he won´t harm her again. I´m aware of it and no matter what my husband says I will call the police. XXX Dana
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@mummymo (23706)
15 Jul 07
I have to agree with Dana, Gardengerty- it is not your fault, please believe me! I know that you blame yourself and that you have convinced yourself of this but your neighbour chose to stay with this man even though you had tried to help! Even if you had called the police when they left or when he got out of jail if if got that far , the same thing would still have happened! You tried to help - you are a good person! xxx
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@GardenGerty (157551)
• United States
15 Jul 07
The neighbor suffered from depression, the man was obsessive compulsive, both of them drank. She felt hopeless. It was many years ago, but it does remind me of my responsibility. Yes, to get out of a situation the person has to want to, but given the situation, I think I would have been a better neighbor if I had called the police the first time. That is not the last time I have been close up to violent marriages, even not related to me. The next time I was more proactive.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
20 Jul 07
Well Sweetie it is a catch 22 Situation I guess I think I would have done the same as you but it is a bit dangerous as he could have turned nasty with you and why does this Woman put up with it Ok I put up with Physical Abuse the first year but then it went to Mental abuse and I was scared of People then I ws scared to stand up for myself but she does not seem to have this Problem if she is throwing things at him Just be careful Hugs to you xxxx
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
20 Jul 07
I don´t know why she puts up with it, Gabs. I just had to do something when I saw him hitting her. I´ve taken the risk that he might turn on me one day. Then again, I would feel really bad, if I hadn´t done anything at all. I just can´t stand men being violent towards women. Big hug to you, dearest XXX Dana
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
21 Jul 07
I understand what you are saying and I agree with you there and I do believe I would have done the Same Big Hugs to you xxxx
• India
21 Jul 07
i agree with what you have done and would have done the same if i were in your place. You are correct in protecting the individual rights of the wife being assaulted by her husband. No person in this world has any right to violate the physical safety of the other person.
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
21 Jul 07
So right :-))
@whyaskq (7523)
• Singapore
16 Jul 07
I don't think you want to be called as a witness to a murder, right? I would do the same as you, warning him to let go or I get the police. In my opinion, I feel it is right to prevent something nasty from happening even if you are not sure whether they are playing the fool. It is still a life saved if not lost. I am sure both man and woman will be thankful to you when they realised later how foolish they have been. Well done!
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
Prevention is better than cure, I agree with you there.
@mummymo (23706)
15 Jul 07
I definitely do not think you are overreacting sweetheart! I just wish when i was in that situation I had had a neighbour like you! While I do not know the couple or their situation I do know that there is no such thing as a 'typical' victim - I used to fight back and say nasty things - I just refused to give in and be a total victim! I also used to be affectionate with him when we had made up - this was to try and stop him from getting upset and violent! I can understand your husbands opinion but I think you are right to do what you did but there is not much more you can do. I think you are a wonderful person and you should be proud of yourself - you may have saved her life! xxx
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
Your explanation is very useful to help us understand her behaviour, dear friend. Thank you for your answer (and your kind compliments), I can imagine that´s it´s not easy for you to write about this subject. XXX
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@mummymo (23706)
16 Jul 07
You are very welcome dearest dana! While it is not pleasant to explain what my situation was I have come to terms with things and if talking about it helps just one person begin to understand then I am happy to do so! Hugs xxx
@cheodej (102)
• Germany
26 Jul 07
of course you are not overreacting! such couple is unbelievable. i don't understand why the wife is still staying with him? love? i don't think so. you don't beat or hurt your wife when you really love her, right? just close your eyes & ears and pretend you don't hear or see anything because if she allowed her husband to do so then we can't do anything not unless she yells for help!
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
7 Aug 07
I agree with you: when you love someone you don´t hit them. On the other hand, what can she do to stop him hitting her? Or even killing her? He´s physically superior to her.
@kgwat70 (13388)
• United States
15 Jul 07
I think that you are doing the right thing and are being a concerned citizen and neighbor. He should not be hitting her at all, for any reason. Even if they make up and kiss and whatever, he has no right to hit her. That is still domestic violence and should be reported. I do not know how anyone would allow someone to hit them. I would not want to be in a relationship where someone was hitting me.
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
If all men thought like you, there would be no more domestic violence towards women :-).
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
16 Jul 07
I would have done the same thing. I would not want it on my conscious if I seen something and did nothing. I don't know why people live that way, and we'll probably never understand, but I would not want to think that I could have prevented a disaster.
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
That´s how I feel. I just needed to do SOMETHING.
@_hope_ (3902)
• Australia
16 Jul 07
If it was me i would of called the police in the first pace and told them that there was a woman being assulted in your building it think that when the police had arrived it might of given him a big shock and might make him think twice about hitting her again.The poor woman makes you wonder how many times this has already happened to her in the past and the thing is that once they start hitting they seem to continue .The next time someone as caring as you won`t be around to help her .I think as human we need to treat each other as we ourselves would like to be treated and we should protect those who need protecting .Congratulations on helping this poor woman you have shown that you care and thats so important in this day to actually find someone who will speak up.Take care and stay safe you are truely wonderful
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
I didn´t call the police in the first place, because they generally take their time to come out. When I told him I was going to call them if he didn´t stop, he left her alone straight away. I had the phone in my hand, because I didn´t expect this. Unfortunately there is no guarantee he won´t hit her again, I wish there was...
@Willowlady (10658)
• United States
15 Jul 07
This is not something that people should do ever, let alone out where they can be seen. You are now marked as a possible caller to the police that might make you a target. Let us hope that they both can start to act better. If it is part of they love making ? then they should stay indoors and be just a bit less noisey Good luck living near this drama filled couple.
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
I sincerely hope it´s not part of their love life. What a way to love each other...
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
16 Jul 07
I don't think you are overreacting. Too many people in our society prefer to turn a blind eye to abuse. It doesn't matter that they make up afterwards, as this is not the point. The point is that thios man is abusing his partner physically. Ity is against the law, & more importantly, against socitioes humanity in decent behaviour. Certainly, next time you observe outright phusical abuse, call the police.
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
I will, jennybianca. Unfortunately there´s most likely going to be a next time.
• United States
16 Jul 07
No, you are NOT interfering where you do not beling. If you see violence, you SHOULD try to stop it. You SHOULD call the police. This is obviously a toxic relationship for them both, most of all her. They need to get out of it. It doesn't matter that they "make up afterwards." They still get into it and they still are violent.
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
"Toxic" is the perfect term.
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
16 Jul 07
You may have just saved her life if you had not yelled out at that moment. I tell ya, that man will think twice about doing that again, especially if others can see it very clearly. I think you did the right thing and she is lucky to have a neighbor watching out for her, I mean you can't help it anyways since they are loud and everyone can probably hear. I don't know how people can live like this but I cannot judge them for it either. It is their lives and there way of living but if I do see something that may be hurtful to someone, then I think I would call the police, even if it was not by business to do so.
@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
I hope it´s going to be as you say. His reaction really surprised me, I could see the last thing he wanted was the police to turn up (for whatever reason). It was absolutely silent afterwards.
@lt41002 (56)
• United States
16 Jul 07
Definitely call the police. Just because they look like they love each other at time doesn't mean she can't be killed in a fight. I wouldn't yell at them anymore either, just call the police the next time you see/hear anything.
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
That´s what I explained to my husband.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
15 Jul 07
No one has "the right" to hit someone else. Never. No matter who does what. Ever. You are not overreacting. I wouldn't yell at them yourself next time though. Just call the police. They are both obviously violent people and the last thing you would want is for either of them to unleash their anger on you or your husband. They both need help and you would be doing them both a great favor by just calling the police and letting them handle it. Chances are though it won't do any good. Even if they both spend a night in jail for their abuse of each other they obviously both feel as though they aren't doing anyything wrong if they make up afterwards. It's a sad situation and I'm sorry that you have had to deal with it.
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
16 Jul 07
I don´t know if he´s aware that he´s doing something wrong. She certainly is. He should realise that his behaviour can have consequences. Most likely it´s just going to be one night in jail as you say. Sad, you´re only too right.
@pSYoniK (35)
• Romania
15 Jul 07
you can always call the police in such a situation...make it the cops problem....that's what i would do but then again if they wouldn't bother me i wouldn't do much....way to lazy to interact in such situations etc
@wiccania (3360)
• United States
15 Jul 07
I think you did the right thing. Next time just call the police. Situations like that can escalate and become extremely violent and as the previous poster mentioned, they can become fatal for one party or the other as well. Sure, some people could see it as interfering, others will see it as potentially saving a life.
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@dana234 (2114)
• Spain
15 Jul 07
That´s how I see it. I don´t mind if anyone accuses me of interfering with other people´s lifes if this "interference" can help in any way.
@butterfly39 (3904)
• Philippines
25 Jul 07
yeah you just did the right thing...it's hurting on the wife's side of course...good you say those words at least he stops.