Did the US Senate turn its back on God by allowing Hindu prayer?

@estherlou (5020)
United States
July 22, 2007 9:40pm CST
A commentator says allowing a government-endorsed prayer to a false God constitutes idol worship which God abhors. I know I didn't like the idea of the Hindu prayer, but never thought of it quite in this way. Am I getting too used to our un-Christian culture? http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/07/folger_labels_christian_activi.php
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@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
23 Jul 07
Absolutely not. All of Congress, the Supreme Court, and America at large turned it's back on God beginning in the 1960's with abortion rights and when they came out against prayer in schools. Then there is that evolution fable that they have been teaching instead of Creation. So why single out a Hindu prayer as the thing that signifies turning our back on God?
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@GardenGerty (99293)
• United States
23 Jul 07
I like that answer, I think. A prayer is only words to be spoken. It is what is in a person's heart that is important.
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• United States
23 Jul 07
your totaly right, it isnt just one thing. Its many, many things....You just made some very good points. There have been alot of decisions made by the government that they will be facing God on.
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@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
23 Jul 07
The whole idea of freedom of religion stated in the constatution is that the Govenment will not indorce one religion over another or create a state church. The idea that they turned their back on God is obserd sence most of these bed wetting liberals do not even beleive in God in the first place. I am not concerned about the Hindu preyre as long as they don't try to make it a State religion. I don't beleive God even hears their preyres to him. God hears the preyres of a rightous man, not polatitions
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• United States
23 Jul 07
You have made some very true points. Its very sad that we have to feel this way about leaders. They dont seem to take God into consideration, only what gets them the votes and the power.....what a rude awakening is in store for them....
@sunshinecup (7881)
23 Jul 07
I think it's rather silly for this chick to assume the US government serves to endorse or practice one religion. On that contrary it supports freedom of religion and that includes them all, not just Christianity. I personally think it’s wonderful a Hindu prayer was read and our forefathers would stand proud over this fact.
• United States
23 Jul 07
The government takes many stands , that arent what was commanded by God......so what our government approves up many times is not what God would choose for us...or approve of...
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@estherlou (5020)
• United States
23 Jul 07
I don't really think our forefathers would be proud...they were all known to be Christians and used the Bible to help them in everyday situations.
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• Canada
23 Jul 07
forefathers were not christian.
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@eaforeman6 (8983)
• United States
23 Jul 07
Just my opinion here, but I dont think God wants to see anymore acts or teachings against him...its just asking for wrath and anger....do they not see that we are already in enough serious trouble that provoking God is the last thing they need to add to. ..
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• United States
23 Jul 07
It is just plain wrong. Our nation was built on the believe of God and not on a false made up idol. A country that turns its back on God is just asking for God to turn his back on us. God has blessed this country tremendously. What has the hindy idol done for us.....nothing
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@sneese (95)
• United States
25 Jul 07
First of all let me say that yes I do believe there is a God. With that said, I don't think there should be prayer at all in any government or public function. Believing or not believing is a right we have as Americans. If we are forced to have prayer, then we are no different than the England our forefathers broke away from. Our country was founded on freedom of speech, press, and religion controlled by the state. If we are going to mandate prayer, then we are saying that everyone must believe the same thing. That just isn't the way the real world works. Freedom for one, can become oppression for another.
@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
24 Jul 07
Until the US constitutes a statewide religion, they should allow others within the Senate to pray as they see fit. The people who interupted the prayer were acting like children trying to take their ball and go home. I don't think Jesus would have reacted that way. People in this country have the right to follow their own spiritual path. Christians shouldn't be forced to pray with the Hindus but they should have been respectful. The hindus didn't interrupt the Christian prayers.
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@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
23 Jul 07
"It's much different when the government gives it's stamp of approval to a prayer to false Gods"? Has the author of that silly little article not read the constitution. The Senate isn't supposed to give a stamp of approval to any kind of prayer, because it violates the first amendment. It's against the law for them to pick and choose which Gods to pray to. I knew someone out there would be stupid enough to show those delinquents who interrupted that Senate meeting in a heroic light. Apparently religious bigotry is heroic...I'm glad I'm a villain, then. The U.S. Congress itself is not supposed to have a religion, therefore it shouldn't matter if it's "turning it's back on any God". Prayer on the Senate floor is questionable itself, restricting it to Christian prayer is nothing short of discriminatory. These Christian activists need to get off their high horses and realize their religion isn't the only religion in this country...it's time to quit complaining and share the limelight.
@anonymili (3138)
23 Jul 07
I read with amusement this discussion and the associated comments, especially "God doesn't approve of people worshipping false Gods" who said this? Does being Christian give you a direct line to God that God told you this? How do you know what God approves of or not? We are all entitled to our own beliefs and anyone who even makes comments like their God says this or that against other's beliefs needs a serious reality check. This is bordering on bigotry and people need to get a life - and by the way, I didn't know America was supposed to be just for Christians' God?
• United States
23 Jul 07
God said it in the ten commandments
@sneese (95)
• United States
25 Jul 07
He did say it in the commandments. But if you are not Christian, then they don't apply. These right wing, bible thumpers need to do some history checking and know that the King James they are so proud to preach out of is an inaccurate translation from the Septuagint.
@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
25 Jul 07
Although it said so in the Ten Commandments, who are you to say that the Hindu God is not the same diety that is worshipped by Judeo Christians. Why do you feel that the Hindu God is a false God. Did God tell us not to worship the God that the Hindu faith projects? Hinduism is a diverse system spanning various religious paths. Some paths are monotheistic. Some are polythiestic. Is their monotheistic God, not the same as the Judeo Christian God? Why or why not? and who are you to say? Even if it is the polytheistic Minister(terminology?) that was giving the prayer. Could the prayer not apply to all? Or is it a simple bigotry based upon the person giving the prayer rather than the contents of the prayer? Lets think about it.
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• Canada
23 Jul 07
there is no god for the senate to turn its back on. hindu prayer is just as viable as christian prayer. how dare you speak for god? [if there was one]
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@anonymili (3138)
23 Jul 07
Hear hear, who on earth in here or anywhere thinks that they are so close to God that they can make statements about what God approves of? It's laughable!
• Canada
24 Jul 07
then you should know that the hindu religion is just as possible to be true as the christian religion... and both should not be in the gov in the first place or else intolerants people will say things like what you said...
@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
25 Jul 07
Right on. I do believe in the Judeo-Christian God, but that is my personal belief. I respect others as I believe jesus did. If we are Christian, we should follow the teachings of the namesake. The prayer was non threatening. christian prayers push. makes me feel a bit sad.
• United States
23 Jul 07
yes they broke the commandments (Exo.20:3-17 3 "You shall have no other gods before me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
• United States
23 Jul 07
it is because of the politicaly correct tollerance of false Gods we are in the mess we are in we should look at the situation our country is in and follow the instructions given to us in 2 Chronicles 7:14. If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 15. Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
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@MsTickle (24962)
• Australia
25 Jul 07
The god isn't false to the man who prayed the prayer. That's the point I didn't understand before reading another discussion on this subject. I think we need to allow ourselves to accept that others pray to their own God who is different from yours or mine. Just as we wouldn't tolerate them forbidding us to pray neither should we do so to them. Let's be united in our tolerance of each other and our beliefs.
@owlwings (39227)
• Cambridge, England
23 Jul 07
You have to remember that it is only non-Hindus who would call it idol worship. There is no persuading you, of course, if you insist that 'your' God is the true one and all others are false. I would maintain that every religion sees a part of the Truth only, since the reality is too immense to comprehend. It is therefore quite wrong (and, indeed, specifically un-Christian) to condemn others' beliefs. One may stand by and uphold one's own beliefs, of course, but only God Himself can be the judge of whether another's beliefs and actions are against Him or for Him.
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@vivienna (583)
• Venezuela
23 Jul 07
I'm Christian and I know Christian history. The absolutely worst thing that you can do to any faith is to make it a question of state. American constitution, built on the enlightened and deist principles of the founders, recognizes the strict separation between the secular state and religion. So the Hindu prayer in the Senate isn't an act of worship because the honorable members converted collectively to hinduism. It is an expression of the nation's spirit: the plurality of ethnics, cultures, beliefes ... everything free to do what he likes as long as it doesn't harm other people's interest. For those who are Christian and want people to adore the only true God, as much as I want them to do it, you must do the following: Go and make disciples of all nations, baptize them and teach them to observe all things our Lord Jesus has commanded us. By our diligence and our example people will eventually bend their knees and confess. Otherwise you only will harvest hipocresy and disdain.
@rusty2rusty (6769)
• Defiance, Ohio
23 Jul 07
I agree God doesn't approve of people worshipping false Gods. But our laws are set up to protect anyone who has a different religion. What we need to do to prevent this is is to watch who we elect in office......Check to see what their religion is before you vote for them......The people vote these elected officials in.....We can vote them out just as easily.
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• United States
23 Jul 07
I didn't read the article, but in my opinion everyone is entitled to worship their own god. I don't think it takes away from anything.
@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
25 Jul 07
"We meditate on the transcendental glory of the Deity Supreme, who is inside the heart of the Earth, inside the life of the sky and inside the soul of the heaven. May He stimulate and illuminate our minds." Are these words offensive? Do they promote any religion?
• Canada
3 Aug 07
This is really beautiful.
@Lindalinda (4112)
• Canada
3 Aug 07
If you want a separtion between state and religion there should be no government endorsed prayer anyway. Now, I am voicing an opinion that will not earn me any brownie points. I don't like the idea that one religious group can declare the worship practices of another group as "worship to false gods and idol worship." Catholics ask the Virgin Mary and many Saints to intercede for them. Is that not prayer to someone other than God? Have you ever wondered if God did refuse the many great people of the past, ( Ghandi and Bhudda for example) and many many more who led exemplary lives and did great things for mankind but were not Christians and lived before there was Christianity. To me all religions who are truly peaceful, kind and care for their fellow humans and believe in the survival of the soul are valid. I Know many Christians disagree with this, but who is to say what God thinks? I know what the bible and the New Testament says but these books were written by humans who were influenced by the culture and beliefs of their time.
• India
24 Jul 07
swami vivekananda - swami vivekananda, the hindu monk from india.
There was a time, 1893 to be precise, when a Hindu monk from India took America by storm with his views and speeches on Hinduism. The response that Swami Vivekananda received from his “bothers & sisters of America” was overwhelmingly positive, as history tell us. Has the America of today become so insular and insecure that any discussion, other than that of Christ, compels them to vent their anger and disapproval? Claiming to be world’s number-one superpower, championing human rights throughout the world, protecting and promoting democracy and secularism…Americans today have to do more than just shout slogans at some Hindu prayer inside their senate.
• United States
24 Jul 07
The U.S. Senate should be separate from G-d and all others religious symbols. What ever happened to the separation of church and state? A Senator can object to a Hindu prayer, he/she has that right, but when the whole Senate either is for or against Hindu prayer, we all have a problem. Hindu Americans have the right to practice their religion without any interference from the U.S. government and The U.S. government shouldn't get involved with Hinduism.
@whywiki (6070)
• Canada
23 Jul 07
As an atheist I feel religion should not even be apart of anything like the senate. Besides that a lot of America's founders were Atheists so how religion crept in is beyond me. Church and state should be kept apart.
• United States
23 Jul 07
I usually stay out of religious discussion as I am very tolerant in my belief that anyone should be allow to worship how ever they wish. I did not say WHO ever because I believe their is only one God who is called different names by many people. Catholics use idols in their religion and they are Christians. Why should other cultures not be allowed to worship as they wish. I could be wrong by I dont think they are actually praying TO the idol but just using it as an image or tool which which brings them comfort.