New illegal laws

@Trace86 (5033)
United States
August 12, 2007 11:23am CST
I am torn in my opinion of this new legislation. It is good in that it will open up jobs for American citizens, but will they want the jobs it opens up? http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070810/D8QUEC581.html Immigration Crackdown Worries Employers Aug 10, 6:24 PM (ET) By JULIANA BARBASSA SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Farmers and other employers who rely heavily on immigrant labor said Friday that they could be driven out of business by the Bush administration's plans to crack down on workers whose Social Security numbers do not match their names, and businesses that hire them. Administration officials said the stepped-up enforcement would begin in 30 days. "Everyone's very anxious," said Paul Schlegel, director of public policy for the American Farm Bureau Federation. "We're heading into the busiest time of the year for agriculture, so you're going to see a lot of worry from farmers and employers about how you deal with this." The industry group, which represents 75 percent of U.S. farmers, estimates at least half the nation's 1 million farm workers do not have valid Social Security numbers. Losing them would devastate the industry, particularly fruit and vegetable growers, which rely heavily on manual labor, farmers said. Other businesses that count on large numbers of illegal workers include construction, janitorial and landscaping companies, and hotels and restaurants. "We are concerned that the new regulations will result in employers in numerous industries having to let workers go as the economy is facing an increasingly tight labor market," said John Gay of the National Restaurant Association. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez said they were forced to beef up enforcement of existing laws after Congress failed to pass a comprehensive immigration-reform bill. "We're going as far as we possibly can without Congress acting," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said. Among other things, employers will now be required to fire employees who are unable to clear up problems with their Social Security numbers within 90 days after being notified. Employers who fail to comply could face criminal penalties. Recognizing the crackdown could hurt some industries, particularly agriculture, Gutierrez said the Labor Department will try to make existing temporary worker programs easier to use and more efficient. Chertoff also said he will try to use the department's regulatory authority to raise fines on employers by about 25 percent. Current fines are so modest that some companies consider them a cost of doing business, the agency said. "It'll just shut us down," said Manuel Cunha, a citrus grower who heads the Nisei Farmers League, a farming group in California's San Joaquin Valley, the nation's most productive region for fruits and vegetables. "It'll just be over if they start coming in here and busting employers. The food chain would fall apart." Illegal immigrants often give made-up numbers when applying for jobs, though honest mistakes such as the misspelling of a name can also cause problems. Employers say it can take weeks to clear up discrepancies. "This the stupidest thing our government could do," Cunha said. "They're worried about terrorists, but I've never heard of a farmworker walking across the Arizona desert with a nuke strapped across his back." Bill Hammond, a member of the Texas Employers for Immigration Reform and the Texas Association of Business, predicted the enforcement would hurt his state's agricultural, hotel and restaurant industries. "We are deeply disappointed in the administration's decision to punish the American economy because Congress has failed to act," said Hammond, whose group is considered a Republican ally. Business operators with large numbers of immigrant employees are wondering how to bring their work force into compliance without interrupting production. "Employers want to obey the law," said Mike Stuart, president of the Florida Fruit and Vegetable Association, which represents more than 200 farmers. "The question is whether they have the tools to continue operation and obey the law at the same time. That's the catch-22." Conservative groups lauded the move, saying it would be welcomed by a population tired of watching illegal immigrants and their employers go unchallenged. "We wish they had done this earlier, but even at this late stage they have an opportunity to regain the confidence and support of the American public," said Dan Stein, president of Federation for American Immigration Reform. But unions representing immigrant-heavy work forces reacted with anger, including the Service Employees International Union, with 1.9 million members in janitorial and security jobs, and nursing homes and home care. Eliseo Medina, the union's executive vice president, said the Bush administration was trying to score cheap political points after failing to win support for comprehensive immigration reform. "The proposed new regulations target people who baby-sit our children, who care for our grandparents, who pick and prepare our food," he said in a statement. "These proposals will intensify a wave of enforcement strategies that have already failed." --- Associated Press writers Matt Sedensky in Miami and Suzanne Gamboa in Washington contributed to this report.
1 person likes this
2 responses
@emeraldisle (13145)
• United States
13 Aug 07
Wow I can't believe there have been no responses to this yet. I figured there would be a bunch since it was posted hours ago. I for one am very much for them getting the illegal immigrants out of the work force and doing what needs to be done to do it. I read the article about how some of the restaurants, hotels and the like are upset by it. I've done housekeeping at hotels. I've known many born here citizens or legal citizens who have done janitorial labor at one time or another or still do it. I know many resorts/hotels/restaurants won't hire illegals for it so they don't have to do this. The ones that do are doing it because they are cheap. They want to get by on using illegals. They don't want to pay minimum wage, the taxes and insurances they would have to if they had legal citizens. As to the ones arguing about how this just goes after those who baby-sit our children and care for our elderly etc those really ticked me off. The nursing homes around (and trust me in Florida you have more nursing homes then anything) won't hire illegals. So it's only your private people that do and if they are then I think they are not being responsible. Would you want to hire someone to take care of your loved one who isn't traceable? Who may or may not speak English? Who you can't get references on? They need to start going after the ones that hire the illegals. If the illegals can't get work maybe they will go home.
@Trace86 (5033)
• United States
14 Aug 07
"If the illegals can't get work maybe they will go home." That is so perfect! They need to go home and work in their own country. Start a union or something to get fair wages, instead of coming here and then sending the money they make out of the country. We need workers who will spend their earnings here and pay taxes to support our country.
1 person likes this
@emeraldisle (13145)
• United States
14 Aug 07
Wouldn't that be nice? I recently read some of the rules for immigrating to Mexico, one of which is you will speak the native language. There were a bunch of others but they were a lot tougher then the ones here that's for sure. Makes you wonder why the double standard.
@nzinky (822)
• United States
16 Aug 07
Im not torn by these laws stop and think just how many laws can you break as a citizen of this country??????Yet the illegals comes here not waiting to get the proper paper work then they steal someone elses social security number.. Get a job and work at jobs that American supposly won't do...Right I haven't seen a job yet that an American won't do who wants to work. The only people who aren't getting hurt is the people who hire these people at wages that aren't fair and pay them under the table. Then they don't pay taxes or have health insurance. We are suppost to pick up that lack of funds from us tax payers....Sorry I don't want to do that anymore...It's time that Americans get frist tabs on our tax dollars.....If you hire an illegal knowingly then you should be ashamed of yourself. And be fined big bucks for it.
@Trace86 (5033)
• United States
17 Aug 07
I guess what makes me sad is that the conditions back wherever are so bad that they feel they have to leave their families and come to a place where they can't understand the language just to support their families. I just wish they would go through the proper channels and do it legally. I have legal friends at work who have come from the Phillipines and Guam, leaving their families behind for opportunity. They all send most of their money back home. Several have left children back there because they got sponsored to come work in America. Most are trying to petition to get their kids here. They did it right. Not breaking the law and smuggling them in. Why don't the Mexican workers do the same thing and do it right? Wouldn't it give them peace of mind to not have to worry about getting deported or arrested?