My sincerest apologies

United States
September 14, 2007 10:51am CST
I want to offer apologies to the Catholic population of this site. I know that some may think that I attack Catholics and that isn't true. I was born and raised Catholic. My family is Catholic. But I left the RC church after finding that too much of what they were teaching me wasn't in the bible. I believe that the bible IS God's UNERRING word. I do not believe that any human can be infallible. Therefore I could not continue to be part of the RC church. I believe in the following: Luke 9:26 If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. Romans 1:16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. To that end please forgive me if you think I am attacking you but also understand that I will not stop defending the bible. I will not stop showing where the RC church strays from God's word.
3 responses
• United States
14 Sep 07
I don't think you're attacking Catholics personally. You're attacking something that you clearly don't understand. To say that no person is infallible means that you could be wrong, yet you state with such certainty your opinions about the Catholic Church. While I think it's unfortunate, I have no problem with the fact that you disagree with Catholics. But, to put judgement on them with your personal interpretation of Scripture is quite dangerous. I wonder, do you make the same judgments and definitive statements against Lutherans, Anglicans, Wiccans, pagans, Muslims, Jews, etc. or do you respect that they have different beliefs and move on? Here's where we are alike: I will not stop defending the Bible, because I also believe it to be God's innerant Word. I will not stop defending His Church, through whom He provided His Word in the form of Scripture and Tradition. I will not stop showing how the Catholic Church holds true to both Scripture and the faith of the Apostles. I hope you don't think that I am attacking you, because it is not intended:)
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• United States
14 Sep 07
That is where you misunderstand me. I never claim to be infallible. I am not coming up with my own version of the scriptures to support traditions that did not come from the bible. Instead I am showing where the traditions stray from the bible. To a degree I do accept that the others have different beliefs but I don't exactly move on. The difference is I wasn't raised Lutheran, Wiccan, pagan, Jewish etc. I was raised Catholic so I do speak from a place of knowledge. Being that I was not raised in the other religions I don't know enough about them to speak much against them. That does not mean that if they make a statement about God that conflicts with the bible; I will not say something cause I most certainly will. And just because I don't believe in the RC church does not mean that I don't know anything about it. I did my time in CCD, I also went to Catholic school. My grandmother was a passionate Catholic and she lived with us so I was immersed in it. So please don't say that I don't know anything about it because I don't agree with you.
• United States
15 Sep 07
You misinterpreted my point about infallibility. In claiming that no person is infallible (including you) that means that you could be wrong (because you're fallible). Really, if you can't even interpret my response, how credible is your interpretation of Scripture? The only thing that you present are your objections to what you think Catholics believe. See, I was raised Catholic, did my time in CCD, and went to Catholic school too. I rejected the Church for many years, but continued on at the request of my parents. After my Confirmation when I was a teenager, I left the Church completely. I protested nearly all things Catholic. In that sense I was a Protestant, but I did not subscribe to any particular religion. I felt that it was unnecessary and all that mattered was faith in Jesus. Sound familiar? I married a non-practicing Lutheran but we had every intention of returning to church when we had kids. We did go to Lutheran services for awhile, but it felt cold and extremely fake. A few years ago, as a result of my mother's (a convert) fervent prayers, I began to study Catholic doctrine. I found that the things that I thought Catholics believed were not what they really believed. I also found in reading Scripture that nothing in Catholic doctrine contradicts Scripture. I found in reading about the first Christians that they were Catholic, not just in name, but also in doctrine. Which came first, the Church or the Bible? How do you know what constitutes Scripture?
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• United States
15 Sep 07
The scriptures are the words contained in the bible. They are not to be added to or subtracted from. You believe that the scriptures are also contained in the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church. As I said I am not interpreting anything. I am taking it at face value. Mary and the RC saints being prayed to is NOT in the bible. Find it for me and I will accept it. Don't just find me scripture that says we should pray for each other and to ask for prayer cause those scriptures were written to living people about living people. Find me one bit of evidence within the bible that says that people who have passed away will hear our prayers and take them to God. Notice I say the bible NOT the cathecism of the Catholic church. Seperate yourself from the church for a moment and go back to the scriptures that are provided to us by GOD.
@gabesmom (1246)
• United States
14 Sep 07
I do not see where the catholic church teachings have strayed from the Holy Scriptures. Is it possible that you are using another bible? It is true that there are teachings that are not found in the Scriptures, but they absolutely do not contradict anything written in there. I hope that your real purpose is to better understand the Scriptures rather than misinforming others about the Catholic faith. I think we believe in the same God and what He is, is love. Understanding Him is more than quoting His word perfectly. It is loving Him and each one of His people.
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• United States
14 Sep 07
I never said I don't love God or all his people. Jew, Gentile, believer, non believer; I love them all the same. My point is that teachings that are NOT in the bible are not God's words. They are human words. Humans are fallible. God can not fail. If they are not God's words then they have strayed from them. He would not give the detailed accountings he does throughout the scriptures and then suddenly turn things over to humans. Why would he provide the ultimate sacrifice of his son if he meant for humans to add to the equation? Jesus was the perfect sacrifice. He was the only human that was without sin and therefore perfect. He told us all we needed to know about Him and His father and the Kingdom of God. He did not say that we should add our own ideas to any of it. My purpose is not to misinform about the Catholic church but rather inform about God's word! If you can't accept that, that is fine but it will not stop me.
• Canada
19 Feb 08
I am a "recovering" Catholic turned Unitarian and left the Church for conflicting beliefs. You are like many of us, born and raised Catholic and discovering a conflict in our belief systems. We seem to have trouble abandoning our Catholic guilt. Do consider that while the bible is the word of God it has also been translated and rewritten by man over time and may not always be in the original form that God intended the meaning to be. What is beautiful is your enduring faith and intentions, which is what any manifestation of God would ask of you as a person of faith. You have every right to challenge the Church where your understanding of the bible is concerned and I believe that the Catholic population here should be able to repect your interpretation of the bible without compromising their own belief system. You are asserting your faith, again something that God would ask of the faithful, and this is not something that commands apology so much as it commands tolerance. Tolerance is a two way street and your apology should be received as well, your perspectives and faith respected. Blessings and peace.