I'm guilty of murder

@Jemina (5784)
September 18, 2007 1:42am CST
I was pretty sure I was not guilty of this crime until I read Mike Tucker's article entitled "You shall not murder" (2007). He explained that the sixth commandment is not just about taking a human life but also deals with the taking of human dignity. Please read more here: http://www.yuwie.com/blog/entry.asp?id=12728&eid=32652
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@spoiled311 (5502)
• Philippines
18 Sep 07
and by the way, Jem, be careful with posting that link here. you might get banned. well, i'm not really sure, but just be careful, okay? God bless!:-)
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@Jemina (5784)
18 Sep 07
Thanks, Spoiled for your reminder. It's not a referral URL anyway so I thought it's okay. Anyway, I'll be more careful next time.
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@owlwings (37707)
• Cambridge, England
22 Sep 07
I think it is quite OK to post the link you did. Links to further information are quite acceptable. If they also contain an encouragement to join something as a referral, then it should be an offer, not an obligation ... and the Guidelines are quite clear that we should not post a discussion with the sole aim of gaining referrals (which this discussion is not!) Unfortunately, MyLot staff depend a good deal, I believe, on reports from users and there is some evidence to suggest that they may not take a great deal of time deciding whether a report is valid or not. If someone decided, therefore to report your discussion (either through ignorance or spite) it might well be deleted. An interesting thought ... does deletion of a discussion also constitute murder? I have certainly known people to be very offended when a discussion is (in their eyes) wrongfully deleted! From MyLot's point of view, however, one discussion is much like another and to delete a discussion because someone reported it, even if the report wasn't justified, is no big deal for them.
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@Jemina (5784)
30 Sep 07
Thank you, Owlwing, for the clarification on mylot guidelines. I see many people here posting their referrals and I think I did that once only. And I'm glad myLot didn't punish me for doing that. I was sorry I did it. Anyway, going back to the discussion, you got a point about people reporting users or discussions which get deleted, I think it's somewhat related to the topic eh?
@James72 (26832)
• Australia
18 Sep 07
The very term "character assassination" has been used widely for a long time! I am not so sure if I can agree that taking ones dignity is tantamount to murder but I certainly see the point! Any act that results in the degradation of another human being is not right. Given the way society seems to head overall we could probably come up with thousands of commandments and still not cover all of the negative things we do to each other. Sad but true.
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@Jemina (5784)
18 Sep 07
I believe that character assassination or taking one's dignity is the expounded explanation of the sixth commandment "You shall not murder." It just explains that even if we don't actually take someone's life but we are not careful on how to treat others then it's a hypocrisy.
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@owlwings (37707)
• Cambridge, England
22 Sep 07
The sixth commandment is usually translated as "Thou shalt not kill" and, as such, has caused a lot of controversy and misunderstanding. Murder is a specific kind of killing (with intent, usually premeditated) so it would seem that the commandment extends also to killing in self-defence or in war! I believe (but am not entirely sure) that the original Hebrew word is used in the sense of taking HUMAN life, not of animal life - in English we generally use the word 'slaughter' to mean the killing of animals (for food) and it is generally used in this sense in translating the Bible.
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@SViswan (12095)
• India
21 Sep 07
I don't know if I'd call it 'murder'. Maybe you can say it is a sin. What about killing someone's soul? I've heard about husbands who put their wives down at every given opportunity and over a period of time they lost themselves. I've seen strong women who have been degraded to that level. Would't that be a great sin tatamount to murder? What if someone takes away your dignity? Wouldn't you retaliate in kind? Would that be called murder too or would it be self-defence?
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@Jemina (5784)
22 Sep 07
Hahaha..you got me thinking. Well,I think it's self-defense. LOL! I know many people are being bullied and that's being murdered emotionally. "Killing me softly" as the song says.
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@owlwings (37707)
• Cambridge, England
22 Sep 07
I wish I could find the article you refer to. I would dearly love to have read it before replying. I agree that to take away a person's dignity is a crime against that person. I hadn't really thought of it as killing but it's quite clear that Jesus did: Matthew 5:21-26 "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing." Yes, there are degrees of murder: the quick way - killing someone premeditatedly (or having them killed) for purely selfish reasons, which everyone would call murder, or the slow way by degrees - wearing down a person's confidence, self respect and dignity till they think less of themselves and their relationship with God than they deserve to do.
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@Jemina (5784)
22 Sep 07
Actually, Owlwings, that's exactly the verse in the article and it was just expounded. I don't know if you can read it online. The magazine is "sign of the times" Sept 2007. Your explanation here about wearing down a person's confidence is also a an excellent illustration for the verse above. Oftentimes, people overlook things like this. And it's nice if we can share our views about it and be reminded how we should treat each other.