Exploring/Colonizing the Sol System

@theprogamer (10539)
United States
October 18, 2007 7:33pm CST
Okay friends and mylotters. This discussion maybe 120% quality, but for some that are interested. I can understand if this discussion makes you bored beyond belief. Still thanks for at least showing up. A few questions and observations based on a couple of science threads I answered last weekend. Time for another discussion Do you think mankind will ever colonize or even reach the following places in the Sol System (or in other words our solar system) Think we'll reach or colonize... Mercury - Rough environment Venus - Reached by probes, very rough surface environment Moon - Already reached, when do you think colonization could occur? Mars - Reached by probes and rovers but not by people. Ceres - Discovered by observation but not probes Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto Eris If you don't want to talk about all of them, just talk about the topic in general. I'll also accept if you talk about colonizing one particular planet or body. You can also talk about what's required of humanity (socially, financially, etc). And as always, counterarguments and points are welcome. Have fun. P.S: Free-for-all weekend thread delayed due to writer's block (check tomorrow).
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@kiobug (2250)
• United States
19 Oct 07
First of all I have a question Pro. Why do you always day 120%? Anyways I am still butt hurt about Pluto getting the boot. To me that was just a waste of time and I think we should be thinking about your very topic rather then deciding whether or not a planet is actually a planet. They havent even reached it with a probe yet right? So why deny it?
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
19 Oct 07
120% is a term I use for efforts I give out. Its beyond 100%. As for your comments, spot on. But it isn't that many people wasting everyone's time wondering if something is a planet or not. Some are dwarf planets, especially Ceres, that was a real surprise to some people whenever I mention it. New Horizons is the Pluto craft and will reach the planet in 2015-2016.
@kiobug (2250)
• United States
19 Oct 07
Hmm interesting. Im still kind of mad about it because I grew up having learned that Pluto was a planet and then someone came along and was like hey its not anymore. Its not that simple I know but its just kind of weird I think. I think it Would be a cool place to colonize. That and Jupiter. Thats crazy to think that some day you might be talking to someone and they might say im going on vacation to Saturn.
@Wingedman (238)
• United States
19 Oct 07
The biggest concern I have about any colonization plan to be put forward is the capacity of the colonists to be able to return to Earth if necessary. The early colonist on Roanoke could and Jamestown I didn't really have a chance to get away when things went sideways. Hell, we haven't been back to the moon in 40 years. That is a long time to be stuck on a rock in space just trying to survive. I think that colonization will not be a viable reality until something of value is found on another world and corporation decide they want it. I certainly would not be depending on the government to get me to my colonial home and certainly not to get back. It has to be private industry if this will ever work reliably.
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
19 Oct 07
They've got titanium (or much more laden titanium) in moon soil and rocks. So there is something there. But I do see what you are saying.
• United States
19 Oct 07
Lately I have been wondering what the space progam and most of the scientific community is thinking about. We need to focus on one project at a time. If we want to go to the moon lets stop worrying about a Mars mission. When we went to the moon before the country was focused on one thing and it happened fast. We need to have the same thing to start happen again.
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
19 Oct 07
That's actually a good though Fox. While some research could go to future missions, there should be more of a collective effort and a singular focus. That's what won the space race (well that, hard work, knowledge, drive, determination). Thanks!
@cblackink (969)
• United States
19 Oct 07
Well, anything's possible. I don't believe in the word "impossible". But the bigger question for me would be: Is it practical or of any use to us to do so? Human beings have adapted and evolved on this planet for millenia, so what would be our motivation for doing this?
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
19 Oct 07
Discovery and wonder for one. Not only that, believe it or not, there are some unnatural and damaging processes humans introduce to the planet. Also, the humans have adapted to the planet, but there is a feasible limit of what the planet can support.
@quanto50 (142)
• Sweden
19 Oct 07
god I was writing a very lengthy and wise statement but it disappeared when I pressed submit and the system asked for authentication.. what the f..ck.. and when I wanted to paste what I had copied it refused and told that just was accepting 500 or more .. god I can't understand it..
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
19 Oct 07
Hello Progamer, Nice to visit with you again! And, great topic! This is one to really inspire us to put our 'thinking caps' on. Based on what we know of our own solar system, no other planet is conducive to human life without significant alteration, or constructed accomodation. Yes, I expect that we'll explore them, but colonize -- I don't think so. Not unless life on Earth goes to H E-double toothpicks, in a handbasket. Of course, if we find that we need to re-colonize, I can only hope we do it unintrusively. Personally, I've got my bets on the Pleides. I figure, at this point in time travelling to the Pleides is no more unrealistic than travelling to Jupiter or Saturn. I have no logical reason for being drawn to the Pleides. It's purely illogical -- but here's my reasoning: It's the only visible celestial body or configuration that is almost imperceptible to the human eye when gazing directly at it. Yet, when one looks slightly to either side, it becomes visible. Don't ask me what I think that means. 'Cause as I pointed out, there's no logic to my thoughts on this. However, it's intriguing to me that we can look upon something and not see it, yet divert our attention, ever so slightly, and have it become clear as could be. We so often miss what's right under our noses. So, I figure it's a perfect match for humankind. Silly reasoning, yes -- but entertaining nonetheless.
@jennybianca (12914)
• Australia
19 Oct 07
I suspect that eventually humans will colonise another planet. It is inevitable, if we continue to have financial security & advanced technology. The nature of humans as we evolve, has meant we have an enquiring mind, & this can only develop. As for which planet, I am not 100% sure. I am not knowledgeable enough on individual planets to decide. I have suspicion it will be Mars to be first colonised, simply because I think it has an environment most similar to ours. Even then, it is still very different, & many technologies will need to be developed. For instance, we need to be able extract oxygen from the Mars air, or produce our own. Water, there could well be water deep underground, & this would need to be found & a method developed where it can be brought to the surface & purified. Food can be brought from our planet initially, but for any sustained living, it would need to be grown. Either suitable soil on Mars would need to be found, or more likely, chemicals & additives added to ensure a suitable growing environment, plus enough sun, but not too much (shadecloth type structures). As we are not all vegetarians, animal life would need to be sustained in much the same way as humans on Mars. Your topic is excellent. I don't think it is theory either. I bet scientists are working on colonisation of a planet right now.