Do You Agree?
November 7, 2007 5:08pm CST
THE LAW IS THE LAW! I really love this one. This is one of the better e-mails I have received in a long time! I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over! So Be It! THE LAW IS THE LAW So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words 'under God' to be on our money, then, so be it. And if that same government decides that the 'Ten Commandments' are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. I say, 'so be it,' because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen. I say, 'so be it,' because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions. I would like to think that those people have the American public's best interests at heart. BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE? Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and its employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life. I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it's just another day. I'd like the ' US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays.' After all, it's just another day. I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the 'Christmas Break' After all it's just another day. I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be 'politically correct.' In fact.... I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day.... What do you all think???? If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the 'minority opinions' and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the American people. SO BE IT........... Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country! 'Amen' and 'Amen ' Touche! These are definitely things I never thought about but from now on, I will be sure to question those in government who support these changes. At the top, it says 'I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!' Let's see that it does.
• United States
8 Nov 07
I was going to write a long, drawn out response but the woman above me said everything I wanted to say but much more eloquently. As far as the money thing--it is illegal to have "in god we trust" on our money. It goes against the 1st amendment of our Constitution. And I really wouldn't care if everyone had to work on "religious" holidays. I really hate that I can't run to the store on those days because everything is closed. My husband has to work them so it doesn't bother me. But then again I look at it like this: just because we have national holidays that just happen to fall on religious ones doesn't mean I have to celebrate them religiously. Our family is atheist but we still celebrate Christmas and Easter but it has nothing to do with Jesus. It is all about family and giving and sharing and carrying on traditions and those are good things. Sure we could create our own celebrations but why? We just happen to celebrate them when all the Christians do. Saves time and energy. I am very for the separation of church and state. Since not everyone in this country is Christian or religious then religion, especially Christianity, does not belong in our government. I, for one, do not like having other people's religion imposed on me.
• Anderson, Indiana
9 Nov 07
Having a religion "imposed" on you, imo, is when you can go to prison or even be executed for not believing the way that the government dictates. Having a four-word sentence in small print on our coins isn't an imposition, because, even if you're an atheist, you still trust some kind of a god or higher power--which might simply be the fact that you exist. The coins don't read anything specific such as "Trust Jesus!" or "Blessed Be!" For whatever reason, we do celebrate Christian holidays in our country--and that reason, imo, is that we WERE founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Not everybody in our country celebrates Christmas. I have Wiccan friends who celebrate the solstices and other holidays. Some atheists celebrate the solstices, too. I even know of a Jewish lady who celebrates some parts of Christmas. Of course, her mother was a Christian while her dad was Jewish, which could explain this. We didn't--as the lady accused us of--"steal" pagan holidays. They are still being celebrated, and people in this country are free to celebrate them, with or without also celebrating Christmas. We simply created holidays of our own. The separation of church and state (which isn't even called that) so often talked about was something put into our Constitution to protect non-Christians and Christians who were non-traditional from the kinds of persecution that happened in the early Colonial days. It wasn't put in to say that our government was to deny any sort of connection to Christianity.
• United States
13 Nov 07
even if you're an atheist, you still trust some kind of a god or higher power--which might simply be the fact that you exist. --that just isn't true. I do not believe in any gods or higher powers. I do not trust in god as it says on our money because I don't believe in any gods, no matter what you call them. I believe we just simply exist. Separation of church and state is for the benefit of both parties. Religion needs to stay out of our government and government needs to stay out of religion. I don't like laws being passed based on what our "Christian" leaders believe--such as trying to ban gay marriages. Who says they can't get married? Why is marriage only between a man and woman? That all comes from religion and has no place in our laws. I don't believe in your god and your Bible so I consider having god on MY money and in MY pledge to be imposing on me. Having mandated prayer time in MY tax funded schools bothers me. It takes away from class time. If Christian and other religious children want to pray they can do it--to themselves. You do not need some special time set aside to pray. If you want to pray then pray. What is the big deal? I just don't understand why Christians are so blind. Not everyone in this country is Christian and therefore our laws and government shouldn't be Christian either. This country was founded on the principal of religious freedom and Christians want to take that away. They want mandated prayer. They want the 10 commandment displayed. They want to impose their morals on everyone. Sorry if I find that an imposition. I feel imposed upon when people knock on my door and want to know if I believe in god. I feel imposed upon when people leave chick tract tacked to my door or on my car or give them to my children. I doubt Christians would like it very much if I went around "preaching" non-belief to them and their children. Maybe I should make up some tracts that talk about how the Bible is a book of fairy tales and hand them out to your children during parades (like the Christians did with my kids).
7 Nov 07
I'm just going to go through this line by line, so I can reply to in context. The parts in quotations are from the article, the parts underneath, my responses. "So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words 'under God' to be on our money, then, so be it." - Seperation of Church and State sound familiar? The words 'under god' were NOT originally on your money, so returning the currency to the natural state, and abiding the seperation of church and state, is the most logical course to take. "And if that same government decides that the 'Ten Commandments' are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. " - Not to be repetative, but again, seperation of church and state. If it's important to you that the school your child attends teach religious dogma, then send them to a religious based school. There's no place for christian documents in a public setting where 100 per cent of the population isn't christian. "Since we can't pray to God," - No one said you couldn't pray. Pray all you like. Since when does respecting the seperation of church and state dictate what you can and can't do in your place of worship or your home? Or is it THAT big of a problem to keep your religious activities personal, like Jesus commanded in the bible? "can't Trust in God" - No one said you can't trust in God. Why does it have to be written on currency for you to retain your trust? Is your belief that fragile that returning currency to it's ORIGINAL form will shatter your faith? " and cannot post His Commandments in Government buildings" - Sigh ... seperation of church and state. "I don't believe the Government and its employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life." - Then neither should christians, since Easter and Christmas are both pagan holidays. :) C'mon, you don't honestly buy this response, do you? The christian church stole holidays from paganism, indoctrined them into their own religion, and then has the gall to suggest others not celebrate these now commercialized FAMILY holidays? What does bunny rabbits and egg hunting have to do with Christ on the cross? What does the December 25th holiday have to do with your christs birth, when he was born in the SPRING? "I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it's just another day." - And most of the employees forced to take work off for Good Friday would happily like to do it for you, but because christians have trouble remembering the seperation of church and state rule, they can't work on those christian holidays. You're not helping your case with this one. It only serves to prove the discrimination of the average christian in regards to the rest of society. Ah I'm not even going to bother with the rest, it all goes back to the same thing. The fact of the matter is that NO ONE is saying you or anyone else can't pray when you like, trust in God whenever you like, and worship whenever you like. You're being asked to do it in with respect to the laws of society and respect of those around you. Why should people of different denominations have to cater to a christian society, when that flies in the face of the very stance of seperating church from state? Have your beliefs, but keep them personal and where they belong, not as a general rule for the entirity of people when the entirity is not christian.