Worship

@Pose123 (21671)
Canada
November 9, 2007 10:12pm CST
I am hoping that we can have a discussion here that will not offend anyone, but get everyone thinking. Worship is adoration, praise, often accompanied by bowing or kneeling. There have been kings and emperors who demanded that their subjects worship them, often under penalty of death. These supreme rulers, as they liked to think of themselves, made life very difficult with their demands. Those who held positions of authority were lavish in their praise. Some monarchs were much better then this, of course, making far less demands and were unmoved by flattery. My thought today, is how do you see God/Goddess/Gods in all of this? We have been told that we must worship, but do we really believe that the creator of the universe desires our praise and adoration? Will the Divine Mind be moved by flattery to do more for one then it will for another? Does The Powers That Be, expect us to dress a certain way and to fall to our knees before it? Can we inform the Universal Mind of something it does not already know? Does the, ALL THAT IS, really require that we worship? Blessings.
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13 responses
@lecanis (16739)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
10 Nov 07
You know, "worship" is a word that I have an ongoing struggle with. I often say I worship my Gods and Goddesses, just because it's a word that people use in that way. However, technically, I do not "worship" them. My relationship with them is far more casual and familiar than anything that could be called "worship". So I'm misusing the word just because I've become in the habit of doing so, based on the way other people talk about religion. It's a habit I really need to fix, because it gives people the wrong idea. There is no one and nothing that I worship, the way in which you are using the term. I admire my deities, I love them, I follow them to some extent (allowing them to guide me in things where they know better than I), but I do not fall to my knees before them in some form of supplication. They don't ask it of me, either. I don't really believe in the whole "One God" thing, so your "ALL THAT IS" phrasing is a little lost on me, but I don't believe that my Gods require worship. They would continue being what they are even if no human being anywhere spoke their names, ever again.
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@uath13 (8227)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Darn it you beat me to it again. All I could add is that I've managed to delete worship from my vocabulary as far as thats concerned.
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@lecanis (16739)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
10 Nov 07
Haha! I'm sorry. :P You're doing better than I am then, I do occasionally still say it, especially when I'm talking to people who won't get the difference anyway. It's something I'm working on though!
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi lecanis, Thanks for responding. I think that worship is probably a word that's overused, a lot of times we do mean something else. I suppose that in it some way it helps those who do use it in the way that I indicated, but it is themselves that it helps, not the deity that they worship. Blessings.
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@Mirita (2668)
• United States
10 Nov 07
To me God is my holy father ,so my prayers are simple and to the point. To me is like having a conversation with him. IF I have a problem, I ask him for guidance ,so I can resolve my problems,and if I'm happy I just thank him for my blessings.
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi Mirita, Very well said, simple and to the point. Thank you.
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@Ravenladyj (22992)
• United States
10 Nov 07
"We have been told that we must worship, but do we really believe that the creator of the universe desires our praise and adoration? Will the Divine Mind be moved by flattery to do more for one then it will for another?" Its because of that very belief, which is SO common, that I worship no-one be it a regular everyday joe or a higher power...I have a very strong distaste for that sort of thing and to be honest I want no part of any higher power that demands such attention from me..To me that is arrogant and self absorbed and in my experience, nothing good comes out of playing into that mindset so I don't.. I truly think that ppl who DO believe ANY god/goddess/higher power demands or requires that is mistaken though. It just isnt logical to me ya know..
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi Ravenladyj, Thank you for your comments. There are many who feel as you do, and I know where you are coming from, it doesn't make sense to me either. Blessings.
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@raijin (10380)
• Philippines
10 Nov 07
I have been reading history concerning this subject, it was dubbed as "for god, king and country." Where people or those who are in authority, uses God and their influence to make people do whatever they desire. Most of them used and abused their power and even change practice whenever they feel like they want people their subjects to behave according to what they prefer, which is really hard to live by. Many would like to uplift themselves and be worshipped like gods, they will do everything just for their "cheap" thrills.
@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi raijin, Thanks for commenting. Blessings.
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@azimsay (546)
• India
10 Nov 07
In our life worship very imp,yuo will get blassed from GOD. At that time you will impossible things also you will get easyly.
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi azimsay, Thanks for your comment. Blessings.
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@dbmax41 (585)
• United States
10 Nov 07
For myself I love Jesus Christ. If anyone doesnt like it oh well. I will die for Him if it came to that. History tells lots of stories about religion and government but it seems when you mix the two you come out with a country that is radicle.
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi dbmax, Thank you for commenting and I respect you for being honest about your feelings. Blessings.
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@dickkell (403)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Worship is adoration, and adoration is a display of love. Worship is just the name that we give to one kind of love display. Whenever I say "I love you" to God, that is worship - expressing my love for Him to Him. God does not need our worship, devotion, attention or anything else we could possibly give. He desires our attention the same way I desire the attention of my wife, because I love her and I want her to love me. The thing that makes worship unique is that it puts us in our proper place. We humans have a nasty habit of thinking too much of ourselves. It's like a child whose parent warns them not to touch the burner on the stove, but the kid thinks he knows everything, and does it anyway and gets hurt. God's given us all kinds of instructions and warnings, but we think we know better, or that we shouldn't have to submit or obey, and we end up getting hurt. Worship reminds US that He is higher - Higher in love, in wisdom, in understanding. Worship gets us closer to God because in worship we lovingly examine His attributes, the way a lover examines the body during intimacy. We're not accusing, or inspecting, or looking critically at Him in those times (although He invites us to when we need it), but looking at Him lovestruck. We draw close because we shut off the rest of life and just focus on our beloved, and when we do that, He can show us things about Himself that we wouldn't have noticed otherwise, we can learn more about Him because we are taking the time to look. Worship is to God an expression of love, but really worship is a need WE have, which puts us in the proper spiritual state to know God intimately.
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi dickkell, Thanks for some very interesting comments. I agree that the need is ours. Blessings.
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@alamode (3073)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Being priest or priestess, a supposed connection to a higher being, is a powerful trip... I can see where they would give in to the temptation to take it all the way to control. Thats why my attitudes have become what they are over all these years. Much is done in the name of a Supreme Deity that I can't support. If there is such, I expect I'll be informed at some point. I don't want to feel that I 'have' to be a good person.
@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi alamode, I believe I understand your feelings, you are certainly not alone in thinking this way. Thank you for expressing your thoughts here. Blessings.
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@humbleme (1004)
• India
11 Nov 07
Hello Pose123,Thanks friend for this post.I am absolutely not sure if I have understood your post properly or not but whatI understand that parents when grow old by age might not expect money or materials from their son or daughter but every parents deserve to be respected,understood their principles and values of their life by their son or daughter.I think there is a huge difference in relation between King Emperors with their subjects , and relation between parents with their kidrelationship.A king or an Emperor not really gives birth or creates their subjects rather they are rulers who loves to get bowing, kneeling praise adoration from their subjects to prove that all his subjects in his territory are under his command and wish.However parents gives birth to their kids with love not with the motive of getting something in return. The creator of the Universe that we call God too creates or give birth or send all humanbeings not with the expectations of getting something in return but as human parents deserve to be respected,praise, understanding the values of their life, God like human parents dont expect themselves but deserve those, and bowing and kneeling are considered as a posture of "Surrender with respect", so if I am concious enough and if I understand that God and my parents has created me and given me the life of a humanbeing (which is considered as the the most intelligent living beings on earth)to enjoy this beautiful world, then as a son what problem can I have to surrender mentally and physically in front of them by bowing and kneeling?Dress,rutuals I hope are absolutely not needed and are just showoff man made rules, if I wear the needed dresses,enter into a temple/church/mosque and start to think about the stockexchange market just to prove others I am spiritual thats why I am bowing, kneeling imitiating others without any proper realisations thats ridiculous.God never expects himself but God deserves respect from us.Thanks again.
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi humbleme, Thank you for your response. I agree that kings and emperors are very different from parents, and I see that you think of God as a parent. Of course a good parent deserves our respect. Blessings.
• United States
11 Nov 07
Very interesting and very valid questions to ask. Where does the will of God/creator/divine entity become merely the tenets of a religion, imposed by the founders of that religion?
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi bravenewworld, Thank you for responding. Your question too is a very valid one, but is it always the founders who impose those tenets? Blessings.
@Zelmarq (11507)
• Cebu City, Philippines
11 Nov 07
Worship is a process of something you do to that someone you believe have made you , your creator and that someone is not what the mind can ever concieve coz he is so great our minds cant handle it if we try to measure or discover. He loves us so much and have cerated to worship Him as our God.
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi Zelmarq, Thank you for your comments, but does God do more for those who worship him, or does it just make us feel better? Blessings.
@chamberd1 (240)
• United States
11 Nov 07
You need to work on your sentence structure and grammer. It would require a thesis to respond to your question(s). If you learn to be quiet God will talk to you unless God is waiting for you to respond.
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@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi chamberd, Thank you for responding. Grammer has never been one of my stong points nor one to which I've paid much attention. The discussion is meant to get people thinking on the idea of worship. God is within each of us, and it is in the stillness that we come to know this. Blessings.
@carmelanirel (21108)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Well if you are talking about the Bible version of worship, it is so much more than that. I have a study on Praise and Worship and the Halal/30 Praises and the root meaning of it all and the proof that Jesus did them all.. Worship you see in todays churches? You barely get 1/16th of what the complete worship is. Satan was the leader of worship, he was beautiful and did all the Halal/30 Praises until he decided to try to become G♥d, then it was all taken away. This is also why many who go into true worship ministry, get attack so severely, we are have what Satan used to have and he doesn't like that we use it to worship G♥d. Is it required? Well, how would you feel about one of your children who completely ignores you and doesn't tell you that they love you and doesn't share anything with you? Like you were a piece of furniture? I know that in the teen years, they come close, but even a teenager will show some love sometimes, but what if they didn't at all? I would say that to worship, it is showing love to G♥d, and to not do so, when mean you have no heart..
@Pose123 (21671)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Hi carmel, Thanks for your thoughts on this. Blessings.