Politically correct! What offends you???

@Debs_place (10520)
United States
November 11, 2007 6:08pm CST
Over the years, we have been come inundated with what is politically correct - schools can have concerts in winter - but can not play Christmas music, towns can not display Christmas trees unless there are menorahs next to them. Cashiers can not say 'Merry Christmas' but must say 'Happy Holidays'. We no longer have broken homes but dysfunctional families. A garbage man is now a sanitation engineer. So what is the inspiration for political correctness - well it is to keep people from being offended. I work shifts and I work weekends -- When people say Happy Friday or have a nice weekend - it offends me - I never really have weekends and Friday to me is just really Tuesday. So what offends you, what would be the new PC hot topic if you really wanted to be nitty ??? Let's hear it...here is your chance to moan and groan about what bugs you. Get it off of your chest
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@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
12 Nov 07
The stupidity of political correctness was born from the fact that people CHOOSE to be offended. It seems many people are offended at every litttle thing that comes there way. Believe it or not, we always have the choice not to be offended at what others say or do. Take the case of sanitation engineer. Garbage is hardly sanitary and you do not need an engineering degree of any kind. Therefore, there is no qualifications (or special education or knowlwdge) that would lead to one being called a sanitation engineer. I have nothing against people who engage in picking up garbage, as I appreciate their fine work. I am grateful that they come every week to pick up my trash. This is total nonsense as is all the special limitations concerning greetings and holidays. I choose not to play these silly games and not be offended by anything. All these limitation and exclusions are the result of people choosing to be offended; for they have nothing else better in there lives to spend their time on. The best thing is to get past the offense and live your own life free of what others say and think. The universe does not care about special considerations that are the result of disconnected egos. As you choose to engage in political correctness, you choose to live chained to the opinion and actions of others as if it matters to your very existence. It doesn't. In the grand scheme of things, it matters not whether you say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. Yikes, what a waste of precious intelligence and time to engage in being offended by these kind of things. I am not talking specifically to you, but to everyone in general.
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@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
12 Nov 07
Beats me. I just don't care too much about P/C. There are too many other more important issues that need addressing and attention. You never know where a conversation might go or what responses you might get. That is how life is, you never know what will happen or where you can go until you get into it.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I agree with everything that you said and was trying to start a light hearted discussion, I did not realize how sensitive people are to the topic. Does this mean that questioning the use of political correctness is politically incorrect?
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
12 Nov 07
People who complain about using Native Americans and their symbols, and names for school mascots, and then will tell racially oriented jokes. I live in an area where there are lots of Swedish jokes, told by the Swedes themselves,and we can all laugh. Let a school call itself the Braves, and heaven help us.Religious jokes of all kinds are offensive to me. I do not get all in a twist though. I just let it be. I am also offended by the term "spoiled" when applied to children. Hyper is not a good term, either.People who do not know a thing about disorders of mood and behavior call kids hyper, manic, say they have tics like they have tourettes. Bad form. Not PC or respectful. I understand about the non traditional work shifts, though.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
GG, let me see if I understand, people who complain about one type of racism and then do racist things bug you. And labeling people - with words they don't understand or that don't apply. Sound right?
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
And Pye, please don't tell me that this is happening to you in the 21st century? That sounds so backward and ignorant. Please tell us about the symbols..for example my son used to collect dream catchers...I know they are an Indian symbol and they worked with my son, he was having problems sleeping due to bad dreams. I bought him a dream catcher and the Indian lady selling them told him what it was and how it worked. He did not have a bad dream after that. He loved the dream catchers and used to make them and collect them. Is that what you mean? Or are you talking about other things?
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
12 Nov 07
Mmm. I just might complain a bit here as I am part Native American. Believe it or not, we natives do have a sense of humor, but maybe when we might come up with racially oriented jokes maybe it's just our way at getting back at folks for all the hundreds of years of being treated like shat. Yikes did you know that Native Americans weren't even considered citizens in our own country until the 1920s?? When ignorant people see me in the street I'll still get a "How" or hi there Pocahontas (or squaw) which to my mind is uncalled for and just plain stupid. I don't look at a person of a particular racial group and say something dumb to them in the same manner Also as far as native symbols..there are a lot of Native American symbols that have high and religious, sacred meanings to them and to have them flaunted for one's amusement who isn't Native American and not know the significance behind them just plain isn't right in my eyes. My two cents here..LOL
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
12 Nov 07
Yes, this politically correct story is getting on everybody’s nerve.... People say that I don't work, because I work my own hours, means 24/7.... Politically correct I am entrepreneur, old days they would call me beach bum....he, he
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
12 Nov 07
Oh, yes I have very demanding boss...ha, ha...she is hard working and she wants all to be done on time... But my friends think I don't do anything, even when working on Sunday.... It takes self discipline and ability to be flexible....but I like it, freedom has its price...
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
Being your own boss is tough, when things go wrong you have no one else to blame. And how can you complain about your boss when you are the boss. You hardly sound like a beach bum to me.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I have a very demanding boss too pola. ME. If I were to work for someone like me I'd quit. But hey, it does sound nicer to be considered an entrepreneur rather than a beach bum,no??
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@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
Too many people think they have the right to not be offended, but we're not afforded that right. Not much offends me, because I look at every situation logically. Unless it directly effects me or my lifestyle, I shouldn't allow it to be bother me. I'm an atheist, but I could care less if people want to put up 50 feet high nativity scenes at xmas. If that's what makes them happy, then that's what they should do. If some cashier offers me a 'merry xmas' on my way past the checkout, I don't get offended and sneer back a snide 'happy holidays' ... I take it for the sentiment and thank you, offering her one in return. I think if more people had the 'live and let live' mentality, the world would be a much happier place. Personally, only one thing I can think of really offends me, and it's just one simple word ... but it bothered me long before it was politically incorrect. The word 'retard'. I didn't like the word as a child, and I hate it even more as an adult with a special needs son, who's heard that word thrown around in his direction a few times too many. And it's not necessarily the word itself, but the derogatory sentiment that it originates from.
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@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
"i agree with your latter comment about people of a lower intelligence than the norm" No no no ... I said nothing about special needs people being of lower intelligence, and don't you dare imply that I did. The implication is flat out wrong, and insulting, considering I just mentioned my own special needs son. For the record, my son is GDD, in the same range as autism. He is EXTREMELY intelligent, and can probably work his way around a computer faster than most adults on this website ... including myself and I work on this computer. Special needs relates to a condition, not intelligence. Please remember this.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I work with developmentally disabled adults...and some of them are the sweetest, nicest, hard working people that I have ever met. They are honest to a fault but I wouldn't have it any other way. I agree on the word 'retard' since as kids it was used as such a nasty term. Unfortunately, these kinds of disabilities are still often kept in a closet by our society and people just don't know the terminology used today.
12 Nov 07
i agree with your latter comment about people of a lower intelligence than the norm...it was quite common and accepted to call people with Downs Syndrome "Mongs" which was derived from Mongol becasue a child with Downs had similar appearances to people from Asia...it is now more common to call people "downs" if they have this condition..unfortunately the word "mong" has stcuck in our language as a derogatory name for anyone who appears to be or says something stupid
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
12 Nov 07
LOL...new vehicles with safety features offend me...I like my "vintage" cars that only have one safety feature besides seatbelts-a careful driver. The phrase "good morning"-I am not a morning person, morning is not good for me, people should be required to simply say "It's morning" Forms that only list single, married, or divoced for marital status-I am not single, I am not married, I was divorced but it isn't a state I live in. "Happy Holidays" when said in December-I only celebrate one holiday in December, I think most people only celebrate one of the major ones not all of them.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I hear you on that..I say 'Morning' because putting the 2 together is not always easy. I agree - there are many more stati - then s,m,d ...there is separated, almost divorced etc.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
12 Nov 07
"Good" and "morning" do not belong together unless it is 2 or 3am and I am getting ready to snuggle into bed LOL Some PC forms do have 4th option for "life partners" which I suppose I would qualify for but not in the way they mean..my life partner is a man not another woman.
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@murciaman (441)
12 Nov 07
well im not really particularly offended by political correctness although i regard it as an unnecessry part of our lives we cuould all do without..however im interested to see that political correctness is all about not offending people....i think this is most apparent when the phrase relates to personal appearance or characteristics...but in fact it does not achieve the aim...someone who is shorter than the norm is now deemed to be "vertically challenged"..isnt this term offensive in its own right...it suggests a weakness or a disability....ok we know there are cruel insults that can be targetted at people but in this instance i think to be called vertically challenged is an insult in its own right... By the way im 6 feet 2 ...so no personal axe to grind...
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I am of shorter stature though my son is taller then you. He finds if interesting that people called short people 'vertically challenged' since he has bashed his head more times as a result of being taller then the norm. In this way he sees being tall as a vertical challenge.
12 Nov 07
yes there are always two sides to every coin and it appears your son has drawn the "short " straw...LOL...in my opinion though the only people who are vertically challenged are mountain climbers and high jumpers....
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• India
12 Nov 07
well my response is not exactly going to please you. i have a lot of grouses against political correctness and there are many of them to enlist offhand. but what i dont really like about being politcally correct is the entire sham and false attitude behind it. political correctness, i feel, is in response to making an insecure minority group feel more belonged, secure and important but in the process making a lot many people aggrieved, agitated and ultimately creating to a lot more confusion and conflict rather than preventing and solving it. take the case of christmas trees and greetings. in a predominantly christian society (even if democratic and secular) it would be but natural for everyone to wish merry christmas during the festive season (even we in India do so). its the way majority of the people have been brought up, its part of the character of a nation. but the moment you prevent this you build up a feeling of resentment and denial among the majorities and a false sense of belonging to the minorities. instead of assimilating diverse groups, you are actually pointing out to the minorities that you are a minority and its in your interest that we have stopped saying 'merry christmas'. its ridiculous! similarly, its not general for people to work weekends but then many people do who are still a minority of the workforce. by habit people wish each other 'happy weekend' not to run salt on the wound (i'm sure). but the moment you tell people not to wish you, you are sure to offend some without bringing any understanding of your situation. instead it would be better to point out with a wry smile that weekend for others is actually another working day for you. people will understand and appreciate you better.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I am not upset at all by your answer. I kind of see the politically correct thing as being very trite. And I was just trying to instill some creativity in those of us who might see things as routine such as 'Merry CHristmas' or 'Have a nice weekend' and see what goofy things they add to the list. I don't mind working weekends but once in a while - I would like to be able to do something on a weekend and I can't find coverage. If I want to go see a one hour christmas tree lighting festival..I have to take 8 hours vacation. I had someone who told me a few weeks ago she felt bad getting every weekend off...and she made me cookies to celebrate my Friday.
@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
12 Nov 07
I think it's when people judge others by simly looking at their appearance (physical), this is what really annoys me. They don't even bother to observe furthermore but easily jumps into conclusions, they even base their judgements on one person's behavior. It's be good if they just judge according to what they see, but most of the times they judge the person and it's whole character already..
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
Yes, many people do judge people by their appearance, I used to have a male friend, who by all accounts was down right scary, he had long, curly hair...way down past his shoulders, he had a beard, tattoo, rode a motorcycle. He wore leather vests and of course, heavy leather boots. He was the sweetest guy, a real kitten. If I needed help with anything, he was there for me. If I had not gotten past his appearances, I nver would have found out how sweet he was.
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@Calais (10893)
• Australia
12 Nov 07
Nothing offends me, its getting out of hand its pathetic what some people carry on about, Get a life i say.. OMG, now they are saying Santa is over weight and cant say Ho ho ho...whats that $hit, he has been that way for hundreds of years...
@Calais (10893)
• Australia
12 Nov 07
LOL...Exactly....I dont know why people feel that they have things, leave things as they are..
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
And he lived to be that old while being overweight...makes you wonder about modern medicine
12 Nov 07
as long as Santa is OVERMYHOUSE on xmas eve i dont care how much his reindeers have to put up with....
@villageanne (8553)
• United States
15 Nov 07
I hate for Christmas to be written as "Xmas" That just burns me up. I get so offended when I see that. It breaks my heart that Christ is taken out of the Word Christmas and he is the reason we celebrate Christmas. Ok I feel better now. :)
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• United States
12 Nov 07
What offends you??? is what offends me its annoying to say the leAST
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I find it the same way. I think we should all be less sensitive of ourselves and more sensitive of others.
• United States
12 Nov 07
I MEANT TO SAY POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS WHAT OFFENDS ME (puter got bugs in it tonight )
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• United States
12 Nov 07
nothing much offends me...i just really don't care. I have bigger fish to fry than little phrases that people say. People have a right to say things, just like i do. So yea, everything phrases don't offend me.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
I agree with you, I think we have more important things to worry about. I was asked the other day why I never say Happy Friday to anyone on Friday morning, since this seems to be a popular phrase where I do my OT.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
12 Nov 07
Many things offend me. But I'm not about to go out and demand laws against them. You cannot possibly eliminate everything that offends everyone. Society would grind to an absolute halt or civil war. Political correctness is devisive and polarizing and when enforced, creates resentment and doesn't cure the problem. It only creates a further devide and further apathy towards any desire to understand another culture, thus, compounding the issues that lead to the lack of tolerancee in the first place.
• United States
12 Nov 07
I choose not to get offended by anything anyone says.. stress makes wrinkles and i am not one who Likes to welcome rinkles.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
12 Nov 07
Ah ..so wrinkles are more offensive then this PC stuff....somewhere you are upsetting a plastic surgeon who was hoping for your business.