Does a diabetic diet work for non-diabeters

@suspenseful (40316)
Canada
December 11, 2007 9:32am CST
Yesterday my husband was talking about me losing weight. Now I am not diabetic, but I have a large bone structure and a muscular tone that makes me look heavier so I always look as if I am obese. I have tried taking diet supplements, with a limited success,and have done weight training, but I cannot walk around all day as I am on myLot and writing my novel, and it is too cold outside for much exercise. I shoveled the snow a few times last week, and made longer ways to get somewhere. I may be losing inches, but not pounds. Now my husband is talking but eating a diabetic diet, and I told him that I would get very hungry, I have cut out the trans fat that contributed to much of my weight gain, and I will not use any artificial sweeteners because they were bad for me, I happen to love nuts, and I will not cut them out. And I eat lots of salads, and I heard that diabetic diets are so restrictive that you will feel hungry right away. And besides my father-in-law was on one, being a diabetic, and he cheated, so it was not a good diet to stay on. So I would like all of your opinions as to whether I am being overly fearful or not.
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@blackbriar (9080)
• United States
11 Dec 07
Since your losing inches and not lbs. then your doing good. Muscle weighs more than fat so your fat is slowly turning into muscle which is why your not actually losing weight. I was on a diabetic diet thru-out my pregnacy due to having gestational diabedes but I wasn't always hungry. I did cheat on it a lil cause I'm a hopeless chocoholic but still, I lost alot of weight on it and quick. My ob dr. was alarmed that I lost 15 lbs. in a week and immediately adjusted my diet so I wasn't losing nor gaining weight. I really wish I had kept that diet log cause I gained alot of weight after my daughter was born. How could you get hungry on that type of diet when your eating at least 6 small meals a day plus snacks? I say go for it. If you cheat on it once in a blue moon, it's fine. Long as you pretty much stick with it.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Dec 07
So you say that six small meals a day are better than three. I am a grazer, so a diet like that would be just perfect.
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@GardenGerty (105559)
• United States
11 Dec 07
BB is correct about muscle weighing more than fat, and so do our big bones. I am large boned, and do muscle up quickly, or at least I used to. I got a lot healthier when I looked to the tape measure, as well as the body fat measurements, whether electronic or calipers to determine if I was fat. Unfortunately, at this time I am fat.
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• United States
11 Dec 07
Yes because you always have food in your stomach which gives you that full feeling so you don't tend to want to eat more at every meal. If I recall, breakfast was light as well as lunch but you were allowed to eat a lil more for dinner. Don't forget the midmorning, midafternoon and evening snacks as well. It is time consuming to have to measure all your food but once you learn how much, for instance, a 1/2c. cereal and milk is in the bowl, you will be able to just pour it w/o measuring and come pretty darn close to the exact measurements. I'm big-boned as well and have alot of hard muscles but yet I'm fat as well..mainly in my tummy because typing on the puter doesn't qualify as proper exercise. I walk alot during the warmer months but tend to be idle when it's really cold out so I'm seriously thinking of putting a basic treadmill on layaway at Kmart that I can use while watching tv.
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@bbsr13 (4198)
• India
11 Dec 07
hello, suspenseful!even if no diabetes is with you better take precautionary measures right from now,there is no harm.i don't advice to cut down your intake rather i suggest you to cut down on fat foods,junk foods,colas and sweets,salt and coffee.include in your diet planty of whole grains,lean meat,fresh vegetables,and sprouts.given the complexities of modern life style,coupled with stress and long working hours,you must maintain an active life style and improve the immune and bodily functions.do some light exercise for 20/30 minutes.but morning walk is best exercise whenever possible.thank you.may god bless you.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Dec 07
I am trying that. I eat whole wheat bread, and I find when I add whole wheat when I am making crepes, etc. I get fill faster. I find that I do not get enough exercise as I am usually too busy here on myLot, but the walks do help. Too bad it is too cold here and I cannot stand the cold. The only time I go somewhere is when I have to, and for me walking to the Mall is dangerous because I want to buy things. I do go up and down our basement steps that have a very long rise, and after doing it for six or seven times I am tired.
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@maddysmommy (16233)
• United States
12 Dec 07
How about walking the malls before the stores open? I get into work around 8ish an most of teh shops are not open then but i have seen many women walking the mall, that might help.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
12 Dec 07
It might help, I do a lot of walking when we go to the Mall anyway. Mind you that would be in addition to me walking TO the Mall. It is almost a mile from my house and going through the snow is not that easy.
11 Dec 07
well diabetic diet can help you obviously to lose some of your more inches. well since you are not diabetic so there is advantage that you have not to bind with the diet always. however you have to strictly cut of your sugar and sweets from your diet. moreover carbonate ddrinks and flesh also you have to cut. add lots of water and salads in your diet. but along with that you have to continue with your exercise and weight losing treatment. best of luck
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Dec 07
I will look into it. I do not have much of a sweet tooth, but I do love chocolates, dark that is, and I do love salads.
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@GardenGerty (105559)
• United States
11 Dec 07
Does your husband have a diet prepared by a dietitian? That would be the first thing I would look at. I talked with a nutrition instructor once, and she said that eating a diet that is good for a diabetic would not hurt anyone. I will say that I have been drinking an energy and vitamin drink sweetened with stevia. I think drinking the drink with stevia eliminates the cravings for sweets. I have no desire for pop, for instance. You can get stevia at health food stores. In the USA it cannot be sold as a sweetener, but as a food additive. Very concentrated. It is also good to help stabilize insulin and blood sugar. I do not do artificial sweeteners, but I try to sweeten more often with honey or maple syrup. Nuts are good source of healthy fats, I would not give them up either, but I might be careful about how many I ate. We all struggle with how we look and feel. I would like to lose weight, but am always busy working, so you may not want to take my advice. The diabetic diet might be good for your health, but if you restrict the calories too much, you will feel hungry. Clear soups, not cream soups, are supposed to be a good choice before a meal, if you watch the salt.Your husband cannot make a decision for you to lose weight, he can only be supportive of any decision that you make.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Dec 07
I live in Canada and we can get stevia here. I do love clear soups, not cream soups. And I use honey in most everything. Now if there was a way to adapt it to making shortbreads. My husband's family is medium boned while I take after my father who was large boned and that seems to be the problem.
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• United States
14 Dec 07
diabetics Have to be on this diet but a healthy person handles sugars differently than a diabetic. It doesn't sound like it would work. Before you start any diet, you should see your doctor. He/She may know a better diet that would help you and it will be designed for you so you have a better chance of losing the weight.Good Luck.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
I told my husband it would not work. I think I need more exercise. Well out in the cold tomorrow or go up and down the basement stairs a bit more.
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• United States
15 Dec 07
You be careful. Are the stairs to your basement well lit? I have visions of you falling down those stairs.Take Care.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
My husband is supposed to make some banisters, but the stairs are close to the wall, so the banisters have to be on the other side.
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@TravisE (445)
• United States
11 Dec 07
It sounds as if you are doing alright on the eating healthy front. But, there are two other factors to consider when losing weight, water and movement. Drink more water. However much you are drinking now, drink more. Get moving. The fact that you can't go outside is no excuse not to get in some exercise. There are tons of exercises you can do at home, if only pushups, squats, and sit ups. Move. Working out does not have to be a huge time consuming deal. Plus, sitting and writing all day only leads to a growing midsection. Get up. Once an hour get up for 5 minutes and walk around your house, clean, do some exercise. Maybe something like a set of pushups, situps, or squats during each break. Losing weight is not only about eating less.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
I will try that. I heard putting a little lemon in the water makes it taste nicer. I do get up and walk around, but it takes too long to lose this weight and I do not want to go on pills even to start first.
@TravisE (445)
• United States
14 Dec 07
If you want to lose weight faster, you must work harder. If you do not want to work harder, you will have the weight come of slower. You cannot have your cake, and eat it too. ;-)
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
It now takes me faster to gain weight than it does to lose it. I am already depressed as it is and being larged bones does not help.
@drannhh (15241)
• United States
11 Dec 07
Exercise is necessary for more reasons than weight loss, so I am concerned about your not being able to get out. Although we don't really have "winter" where I live, I too find it difficult to go out for a walk as often as I should, so although this might not appeal to you, here is what I love to do. I have a rebounder, which is like a very small trampoline for jumping up and down. If I don't feel like jumping, I just walk in place on it. Rebounders come in many different price ranges and sizes, so there should be one that is right and affordable for everyone. If space is an issue, some can be stored flat against a wall. I just love to rebound even though I do not need to lose weight (maybe that is why!) but here is a wonderful article from Weight Loss Resources: http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/exercise/reviews/rebounding.htm Another thing I hope everyone is doing is to get enough purified water. Most of us do not drink enough water to properly hydrate ourselves and although there is no discernible difference short term, over a long time this can lead to disease. Good for you on the nuts, as we need fat to live and the fat in nuts is the best kind. They also contain many other important nutrients, although one has to watch out for the salt unless you are like me and enjoy the unsalted ones. which simply make us crave more sweets and starches. If you haven't already done so, you might consider cutting back on salt a little or changing to sea salt. Is your husband skinny?
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Dec 07
We have a treadmill and I sometimes walk on it, plus I have those basement stairs, but I am the person who has to go somewhere, I do not like going on someplace and getting nowhere. Even listening to music does not good (I hope I get enough money to buy an Ipod!) since I am still on the treadmill. That is why I try many excuses to get out the house as much as possible. I even make sure that instead of going to the back to put out the trash, I go from the back door down to the lane and take the long way about. I got some kosher salt, but I can also get some sea salt as well. We have a bulk store in our neighborhood. My husband is almost well as big as me, and he has a bit of a stomach as well. Mine is disappearing, but I am wide. But you know the Slimquick commercial, he can lose weight easy, while I cannot.
@drannhh (15241)
• United States
11 Dec 07
I've never seen the commercial, but I hear those diet pills are deadly. Sounds to me like you are doing everything right and that your husband has his own weight issues or perhaps I should say self-image issues. Bone structure does make a difference as does the muscle vs flab argument. As long as you keep going up and down those stairs it sounds like you'll be fine.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
Thank you. I do not want to go into starvation mode. Maybe I should buy those new scales that show the water and fat weight. Then I can show proof to my husband.
@carmelanirel (20979)
• United States
11 Dec 07
Have you thought about a Mediterranean diet? One that is typical of a Bibical diet, it allows nuts and honey and all kinds of goodies. It would be more of a lifestyle change rather than a diet and this way of eating is the way we were meant to eat. (If you have ever been to a Sedar dinner, you know you don't starve, lol, they have lots of food, but it's good for you..)
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
12 Dec 07
You know I have Type A blood and it seems that a Mediterranean diet would be best for me. I love spaghetti with sauce and there is a type of spaghetti that although not whole wheat is close to it. It is sort of like what converted rice is to white rice. I really should try it.
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• United States
12 Dec 07
Yeah, that is more or less what I eat, though I do tend to eat other things not so good for me, but not as much as I use to..:)
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
12 Dec 07
Yes don't let me near any chocolates.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
14 Dec 07
I would suggest choosing a diet tht you can stick with even after you've lost weight. I don't like the word diet unless it refers to what you eat. I believe in lifestyle changes, not unhealthy restriction of any of the food groups unecessarily. We need everything. Even healthy fats - to transport nutrients from other foods around more efficiently.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
It is the word diet that makes me nervous. I am that way already and to have it rubbed in with you can't eat this, you can't eat that ===it hurts.
• Abernathy, Texas
15 Dec 07
I don't like the word diet in the newish - last fifty years it has gotten into either ...
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
11 Dec 07
A diabetic diet done with the glycemic index in mind should not make a person hungry right away. There should be carbs and proteins available for the time period. Such as 4 hours or six hours. Some people have fast matabolisms, so they eat more often. When my parents became diabetic, the entire family went on a diabetic diet because the doctor said we should all be on it. If both parents have diabetes, then a good percentage of the children (25, 50, 75 or even 100) may someday have it. So starting now would help us. The diet is not restrictive. When you compare it to Atkins and others. You eat from all the food groups. There are so-called cheats built-in now. Most diabetics, unless severe, can have low sugar or sugar free ice cream, pie or cake on occasion. You can have a little bit of nuts. We bought more food and more types of food as well as ate more kinds of food on a diabetic diet.
@writersedge (22579)
• United States
11 Dec 07
Check out the diabetic cookbooks. Honey, chocolate, and nuts are in some of them. Borders book store and many more have diabetic cookbooks that include casseroles with total calories and diabetic information. Just choose the cookbook(s) that go with your lifestyle the best. I wasn't hungry on the six a day meal plan. Nuts were part of my snacks. I ate three meals with three snacks inbetween. I went to a nutritionist to get the correct number of calories for me. My Father's calorie count was double mine and I gained weight. Do you get Fit TV? There are all different exercises on there and there is something for everyone there. I like Shimmy right now. But there are all kinds of exercise shows there. Also videotapes have all kinds of stuff, even dancing. I did my best with a diabetic diet and dance videos. Take care and good luck.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
12 Dec 07
I will check the Diabetic cookbooks. Thanks. I do not get Fit TV. We get the Food Network, very dangerous for those wanting to lose weight though. My father was diabetic, but I heard it skips a generation and my luck, my brother is a bean pole. Just my luck to have my father's build.
• Canada
15 Dec 07
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes when I was 37. I am 56 now and I have had a lot of lifestyle changes to help me maintain health. I cut out white sugar from my diet, I use sea salt, and I drink more water than ever. I eat five to six small meals a day and that helps to smooth out the roller coaster sugar high/sugar crash syndrome that plagues the diabetic. I have to be careful with the quantity of salads (and what goes in them) I eat because I am on blood thinners (and romaine lettuce thins the blood so my doctor cautioned me to either refrain or eat very sparingly). For a long time I was on denial, refused to test my blood glucose, and ate whatever I pleased. This, coupled with stressful work/life style, gave me a major stroke. I found that if I cut my usual food intake by a third, and spaced the meals evenly throughout the day, I could regulate my blood sugar better. I drink mostly green tea now, and I found out that not only does it help speed up one's metabolism, but that it also helps to stabilize blood sugar. I eat nine raw almonds a day to gratify my craving for nuts, and once in a while I will have one square of my favourite Ritter Sport white chocolate with nuts! Can't be an angel all the time....sigh! My weight dropped from 145 pounds 125 pounds, so I guess my revised eating habits did help. Good luck!
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
I got more than that to lose. I have to find a substitute for white sugar. I guess brown or demura sugar will not cut it, well maybe in brownies. I usually cut the fat down and substitute apple sauce instead. But this year our apples were not that good.
@gmakesmoney (2923)
• United States
15 Dec 07
My mom found out she was diabetic 2 months ago, because she is very into naughty foods I took on the diet as well to avoid having tempting things around for her. She's lost about 15 pounds and I've only lost about 5 but I've been able to keep them off, something I've never been able to do before. I also lost a dress size. It's not at all a boring diet, we're eating so much MORE now then we used to and such a greater variety of foods then we knew were out there. We still eat sweets from time to time, as she can have a tiny bit and for our favorites we use Splenda recipes which taste great and not only cut out the sugar but the calories too. I used to always have an upset stomache and now since cutting out sugar, my digestion is actually normal for the first time ever. I've also noticed that the diabetic diet has helped with my depression, along with an all natural organic vitamin it has done wonders for how I feel. It has also helped with the fibromyalgia pain too, I still get pain but not nearly as severe and it doesn't last as long. I hope that helps!
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
Thanks. I do get depressed, so it would help me.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
14 Dec 07
My neighbor is a diabetic and we eat with his family a lot - pot luck type things and they eat a wide variety of foods. he does limit his starches but he still eats yummy stuff. For the most part, he gets his sweets from things like squash - so sweet I add lotsov garlic when I go over there. Or sweet potatos - again I do the same - add lotsov garlic and salt and pepper to make it savory rather then sweet. He's not hungry and he went from 235 to 190. Good luck and please keep us posted on your progress and how you're feeling about it. BTW, I don't think you look obese.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
Okay I will let you know how I do.
• Australia
13 Dec 07
I would talk to your gp before starting any diet. if you are finding you are losing inches, and not pounds, slow down on the weight training. Muscle is heavier than fat, so that could be the reason for it. Take up some cardiac and more gentle excercise if you can. Pilates, water activities or dancing. All of these work the whole body, not just muscles. I believe the diets that diabetics are on are very low in sugar. It is important for non diabetics to watch their sugar intake, but not cut it totally from the diet. Our body needs a certain amount, especially first thing in the morning or when exercising.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
You are right about the morning.
@Debs_place (10525)
• United States
12 Dec 07
IF you eat as a diabetic does, you will be eating healthier and you will more then likely lose weight. You may not do it very quickly, but you should lose weight. No diet will work if you cheat. Nuts are a healthy thing to eat but in small amounts. You may want to check out weight watchers.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
I will do that.
• United States
12 Dec 07
It works for everyone but you have to test your blood sugar and it takes time to figure out how many carbs your body can handle. Women are different than men, and diabetics are different than non-diabetics. There is an amount that you can eat to maintain your weight and an amount you eat to lose weight. You need a minimum amount of small meals a day, it's not like you can bank them up for the day then go eat cheesecake! mmmmmmmmmmmm cheesecake~
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
I love cheesecake. I am not diabetic, and I have to be careful about what kind of carbs. I have to avoid as much white bread and rice as possible. I found some spaghetti that has the whole wheat nutrition added to it, because my husband cannot stand eating whole wheat spaghetti. I do not think he would stick to a diabetic diet, too much whole wheat and healthy food.
@ElicBxn (60894)
• United States
11 Dec 07
back in the 1970's my mother became borderline diabetic The dr put her on a 2200 calorie diet & she lost weight. She was eating more and more often then she had been before, but she lost weight. Part of the reason people get hungry is because they don't eat OFTEN enough Mom's diet had her eating 5-6 times a day, even if just a glass of milk or some fruit (not fuit juice.) My client has been put on a low carb diet to try and get her diebities under control and while this diet means a lot of meat, she isn't really that hungry and she's lost weight. Again, she's eating often. The main thing about this diet is cutting out the sugars, very refined carbs & some fats. Nuts are good for you - they don't turn to sugar. Good luck.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
I found that when I eat a lot I seem to lose so there must be something about it.
@Grandmaof2 (7603)
• Canada
11 Dec 07
My husband being very diabetic I have gone to different talk groups with him and we were told the diabetis diet is good for anyone. I do personally know one lady from town here that followed the diet and lost about 80 pounds. What I don't understand is this. After working hard and loosing 80 pounds why would you gain it all back plus?, and she did. Also the diabetic diet never seems to work because it seems to be hard to follow, very few times people stick to it, why?
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
I told my husband that I might have hard time sticking to it. I know I had a hard time losing ten to fifteen pounds and I dared not step on a scale. So it must have something about diabetic diets not being sustainable. My father-in-law was diabetic and my father at the last part of his life. My father-in-law would not stick with it, and the diet was very strict. My father had a weight problem and he was on 500 calorie hospital diets and he still could not lose weight. I heard that you have to cut down on fats, and that might be the problem.
@Sillychick (3279)
• United States
11 Dec 07
First, nuts are actually a great snack, just not too many of them. I don't think a diabetic diet necessarily will leave you hungry. The point of it is to keep an even blood sugar all day and avoid the peaks and valleys. For that reason alone, it may help you lose weight. But I would definitely gauge success more in inches than pounds. I have seen people who weigh exactly the same but one is bigger, or that are the same size but one weighs a lot less. Give the diabetic plan a try, it can't hurt anything. See how it goes. Maybe you could use it as your foundation but make small adjustments if that works better for you.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
I will check to see if there is one on the web. I do not have enough money to buy a diabetic cookbook outright.