No FairyTale Of New York Censorship

@wolfie34 (26792)
United Kingdom
December 18, 2007 11:08am CST
I can't believe, well correction in this world of bizarre and dire censorship, you wonder where it will end, that they have actually done this! The BBC bans the lyrics to the great enchanting song Fairytale of New York with Kirsty MacColl and Shane MacGowan. This is a great Christmas hit and loved by all! Once again a word (like my Freak discussion yesterday) is being used out of context. The word fa**ot How ironic that it's censored here too ;0) Forgive Wolfie for the tongue in cheek! So who's going to be offended by the word Fairy? That could be misconstrewd by gays too! Gays could find that offensive? Aaaah they missed that one didn't they! I wonder if I should drop them a line to say that they can't use fairy any more! Any other words we can think off? But now because of the lyrics the BBC have censored it, in case they offend the gay community! Even gay rights OutRage Peter Tatchell states "I can't see most gay people being offended by this" Quite right too! Which is true! So please where will it end? Will everything be censored? Will we be frightened of speaking in case we say a word that offends someone? Why not rewrite the whole English language taking out every word which may seem offending to someone! The dictionary will then look like a small pocketbook! I was flabberghasted, words fail me! So what is your take on this? They are playing an edited version LOL So from Wolfie it's ho ho ho, ooops sorry ha ha ha and to Kirsty MacColl fondly remembered (sadly died in 2000) RIP
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@mummymo (23707)
18 Dec 07
Hey my darling little brother - surprise! My son has been going on and on about this all afternoon and right now they are playing the full UNcensored song as they have buckled under pressure from so many people who found it ludicrous that this censorship happened in the first place! Couldn't agree with you more about the idiotic censorship and politically correctness gone mad - totally absurd! xxx
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@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
18 Dec 07
I know and it's lovely to hear from you sweet sis of mine! I am so glad they buckled, and I'm so glad that they listen too, it's absolutely pathetic and childish. So lets sing together you can be Kirsty and I'll be Shane xxxx
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@mummymo (23707)
18 Dec 07
Don't know whether I would rather look as she did or sound like she did - what a woman! I think you are much more handsome than Shane but I would sing with you anytime nonetheless! They seemingly had 150,000 complaints about it! xxx
@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
18 Dec 07
Woohooo power to the people! That sock it to em! We could always be Robbie and Kylie instead. I always have a soft spot for Kylie! x
@MsTickle (24995)
• Australia
25 Dec 07
I had to laugh or scoff more like it. I was on another site today and I used the phrase "well blow me down" and the censorship page came up and said I couldn't use it. So I put "bugger me" instead. It's an Aussie colloquialism. They allow me to say that...lol.
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@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
25 Dec 07
OMG That was soooooo funny thank you my friend, hope you're having a great Christmas there, just logged in and saw your response and it's not the drink honest but reading that I was killing myself with laughter, excellent and what's more is that bugger was allowed on this site too! Well blow me down xxx
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@MsTickle (24995)
• Australia
31 Dec 07
Bloody silly eh mate? I was looking at one of your earlier responses about cooking terms. Giggling my head off I was. We could have had a discussion just trying to (come) up with seemingly innappropriate or naughty cooking words. Come to think of it, and I do, we can all probably come up with heaps of naughty words that are not by themselves offensive...like: lips, suck, toss, knickers, beaver, sausage, finger, pull, tug, poke, huge, wet, pink, nippy, tip, blue, crumpet, mango, banana, bottom, salty, lick, mole, stroke, erupt, fat, bar, tongue, and so on...lol
@livewyre (2455)
19 Dec 07
You'd have thought the image of Shane McGowan would be offensive enough to gay men - surely you would have to reconsider your sexuality after being confronted with that particular example of facial and dental distress. As you say though, fond memories of Kirsty, God Bless her family at a what must now be a hard time for them. It must be hard hearing that song every Christmas, but probably even more distressing to have it banned... The BBC has a long record of making mediocre songs really really popular by banning them. Why don't they just 'Relax' (ha ha ha)?
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@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
19 Dec 07
Excellent choice, another example of a word which has a double meaning the lovely but innocent C word, can I mention it here, can I, can I? Come and relax and thanks for your great response!
@livewyre (2455)
19 Dec 07
A colleague of mine pointed out that the BBC are reporting this story on Radio 4 and actually having to use the words in the context in which they have been banned as part of the story. I think I heard that the song has now been un-banned and the censors are once again suitably egg-faced....
@arkaf61 (10882)
• Canada
19 Dec 07
I am with you wolfie. People are getting too much into this political correctness and your know what? everything, even a good thing, that is done to excess comes with consequences that might not be as positive as anyone thinks. Plus by "censoring" certain words that would otherwise not even be noticed there is the danger or actually making that not so nice hidden meaning come out loud and clear. So if I heard that word and normally wouldn't even thing much about it, now I am immediately going to think what they want to cover in the first place. Shame. I find that in the world there is a huge tendency for the 8 or 8888, Ok so we find something that is not that right, so we have to fix it, right? Then we just turn the whole thing to the other side because we want to fix it, and we end up with the same problem but reversed.... Not too smart.
@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
19 Dec 07
Suddenly words have double meanings when you start analyzing them more, the more you analyze them the more they become controversial.
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@arkaf61 (10882)
• Canada
19 Dec 07
Exactly. In the end the results won't be pretty
@raydene (9874)
• United States
18 Dec 07
How stupid can you get? It's getting so no matter which is say or what to do somebody yelling. Have we become just way too sensitive? I think the answer to that is yes yes yes and yes. I think you're right darling... they've gone way too far!!! Thanks for bringing that to my attention! xoxoxooxxoxo
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@CatNPK (461)
• United States
19 Dec 07
Censorship has always been ridiculous. Someone will always be offended by something. I understand the concept of rating systems - by making sure kids under a certain age can't as easily access some movies without parental consent, or the ability of parents to set their cable boxes to block programs rated mature. In the end, kids will still know swear words by the time they are six, know "where babies come from" long before they are ten, and meanwhile violence is barely censored at all. The whole thing is so backwards it's ridiculous. How about personal responsibility and practicing civic behavior? Nope, can't turn it into a law - let's just make more regulations and put up warning signs... Kudos for a great discussion topic!
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@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
19 Dec 07
Children see and hear a lot worse from the media, their friends and sadly their parents! Thanks for your response.
19 Dec 07
Well I hardly watch the BBC and I never listen to any of it's radio programs. I'm not a fan of it, I don't think it's worth the money. I'd rather give it to channels like five or ITV, although I think the bbc needs it to spend on buying sci-fi programs like heroes. If I get to see that then I take away what I said above. Fairtale of new york shouldn't be censored!! I'm stronly against this.. (not when they'res stupid hip hop songs which mention every part of womens body or even worse actually mentioning doing stuff) It's crazy. ~Joey
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@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
19 Dec 07
With you all the way my friend on this one, forgot about Emimem who I can't stand he has sailed too close to the wind before especially his outright homophobia, but he gets away with it! Hmmmmmp!
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@worldwise1 (14887)
• United States
18 Dec 07
Sadly, wolfie, it is a sign of the times we are living in. Our very thoughts are being taken over by those in Power. I really believe they want us all to act alike, think alike, and, yes, be alike. Freedom of speech is just a joke. ANYTHING you say CAN and WILL be held against you-if it rubs someone the wrong way. I hate to say it but it looks as though things are going downhill fast.
@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
18 Dec 07
faster than a ferret up a drainpipe, there, don't think anything can be misconstrewd from that sentence LOL!
@Kowgirl (3491)
• United States
18 Dec 07
They have taken normal words and redefined them. They have added more slang words. G.ay which means lighthearted, or cheerful has been adopted by others to define h.omosexuals. It has been used for so long to describe h.omosexuals that it now has a place in the dictionary which says (esp.male) h.omosexuals. Fairytale is a fantasy story, a lie. But fairy alone has been used to describe both male h.omosexuals and female h.omosexuals (l.esbians) even though it has no meaning in the dictionary for it being used for this purpose.I'm sure it will be added soon just like some other words that have grown to be something rather than what they are. like Ho,ho,ho. It is just another dialect of the English Language like Ebonic. Pretty soon all words will have 2 to 3 meanings according to the person who uses them and in what dialect. These are all nonstandard vocabulary. I wish they would go back to using proper English or just keep their mouths shut. Had to seperate the letters in the words to get Mylot to post this.
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@wolfie34 (26792)
• United Kingdom
18 Dec 07
Amazing how many words had to be separated there, yes you are right g.ay in the old films was always meant as 'happy' so many words have hidden double meanings, it's like a minefield! Thank you for your excellent detailed response.
19 Dec 07
personally im not offended by this. i think its abit of a joke myself. we live in an overly pc world today where everyone is afraid to say anything at all, incase they offend. people are far to easily offended now. i mean no offence was ment by that, its just a funny christmas song. im sure theyre wasnt as uproar when it was released