Life & Learning
January 16, 2008 12:30pm CST
I hated school, not learning, but the way public school lacked any creative approach to teaching and learning learning. Memorization appeared to be what was taught, regurgitating what you memorized and if you forgot immediately after, it made little difference to anyone. The supposition was if it was memorized, it was learned. Stream lining and reducing everyone to the lowest common denominator was the goal. There was never any sense of the individual being nutured, or encouraging creative thought. On CBC radio a few years ago, I'd heard John Taylor Gatto lecture on the program Ideas. He had been a teacher for 25 years in the New York school system, and had been awarded teacher of the year, for the state of New York. In his book, Dumbing Us Down, he writes from his experience as a teacher, about what works and doesn't work in the public school system. I have listed the seven lessons learned in public school which he explains in his book, and clarifies these ideas about the public system for me. 1.Confusion 2.Class position 3.Indifference 4.Emotional dependency 5.Intellectual dependency 6.Provisional self-esteem 7.One can't hide I would love to hear what others thoughts and experiences are about school and learning. His web site can be found with a engine search for www.Johntaylorgatto.com I hope you check it out for yourself and let my know your thoughts. Namaste
• United States
16 Jan 08
I happen to think the school systems are a waste of time. They try to cram kids heads full of useless knowledge they'll probably never use again & expect them to regurgetate it on command. They even teach facts about subjects but leave out the point or lesson that could be learned from them. What's the point of making kids be able to name every single general of the cival war? Is that knowledge ever really going to be used again? Not likely. Learning about WHY these events happened & the tactics used in the battles might actually be useful, but these are swept aside as they memorize names & dates. When I was in school I usually failed history, yet today I'm a history buff. Ask me what tactics were used in a battle, I can probably tell you & how it applies to modern warfare. Ask me the general & the dates & DUH... That doesn't matter. General Such&Such isn't coming back to lead the troops again. It's understandable why kids are so stressed with this stuff.
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16 Jan 08
Hey Utah thanks so much for your response. Yes well I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I know there is a resaon why the education system just doesn't get it. I haven't got it quite figured out yet. I hate to sound paranoid, like there is some sort of conspiracy, but there is an agenda of some sorts. I believe, that has it's roots before and in modern education, based on our consumer society with those who have vested interest and those that fall in between, they tow the line, like blind sheep, almost in a trance of mediocrity and apathy. I certainly relate to what you are said about being a history buff now inspite of not doing well in it in school. I became a teacher in my adult life and feel very passionate about having a thirst for knowledge, which seems to have nothing to do with the present education system. Thanks for your imput. I hope you check out John Taylor Gatto's books he talks alot about the history of modern education etc.
• United States
17 Jan 08
I think public school systems only serve, actually I know they only serve the guidelines the state and the government feel they should. So, schools have no choice but to teach only in the ways they are allowed to teach. They don't have much room for doing things their own way, they can only teach students and teach them in ways they feel the students can learn. They don't actually get to teach what they want, or what the kids want to learn, which would definitely be nice. I think school systems lack a lot of things, creativity being one of them, and they are too restricted.
17 Jan 08
Well this is my thought also re public school system. I agree with you completely Highflyingxangel. The system serves the political agenda and our corporate, consumer society. It a sad senario, but people like John Taylor Gatto are trying to make a difference and this gives me hope. There is always hope. Thankyou very much for your comments and input I really appreciate it.
17 Jan 08
if you study in china, you will be crazy more. in china ,you have to memorize ,memorize and memorize ,not for which you like, just for you hate, like Karl Marx's theory of communism, i have been forgot it for 100 times, but now, i have to memorize it again, because i need pass graduate examination. life or learning? it's a problem ……