Why is gods word subjective?
February 3, 2008 1:23am CST
shouldnt gods word, whatever that may be, be easy to understand? shouldnt god trying to communicate with us be very easy for him? why are there so many different religions and so many different sects in certain religions and so many individual ideas on the same words that god supposedly wrote?
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7 Feb 08
Hello fightingistheonlyway, Have you ever tried, yourself, or read poetry? Have you heard anything like “what an article can’t encompass, a verse can” or something like that? Probably the greatest and unsurpassed poet of my land, rather Indian sub-continent, was Mirza Ghalib. In his late age, he used to say very simple verses, very easy to understand poetry compared to his youth age poetry, so simple that even a lay man could understand. Yet, it bewilders the experts of the language as they try to grasp the meanings of his verses. I have read him. One of his verses, just as an example, has 72 very different interpretations, all from experts in the language of that part of the world. GOD’s word SHOULD be a guide to all. From most illiterate to most learned, from a materialist to a spiritualist, from pragmatist to philosophers, all should have food (for thought) for them in GOD’s word, otherwise it can’t be a GOD’s word. It should contain wisdom that encompasses all spheres of life… personal, family, social, spiritual, economical, political and any other conceivable aspect of human life so that every one can find something, some guidance for him/herself from it. It would be most appropriate to provide food for all in the least possible space, as a book has limits as regards to size. So yes, like a verse, the verses of GOD’s word should be very rich in meaning. Hence, it is possible (rather probable) that people get only according to their understanding and capacity. Like a rain falling on everything in abundance, but a glass, a tub, a pool, a channel, a river, and an ocean receiving according to their capacity :-)
8 Feb 08
Hello Fightingistheonlyway, As I said that GOD’s word, in my humble opinion, should be all encompassing having guidance, in principle, for everyone and everything. It is only possible if it is simple yet very rich and profound such that every person can take from it as per his/her understanding such that the most capable gets the most. How can one accomplish that in one small book? For transfer of knowledge from one to another, both are needed to be capable and rich. A giver should be skilled to give everything and a receiver should be capable to receive. If the giver is all capable but receivers have varying capabilities to receive, then what will happen is what happens to rain water in above example i.e. everything getting according to its capacity. An excellent teacher will fail miserably if he treats his/her pupils as same and equal in capabilities or abilities. He needs to take care of all students including the dumbest and the brightest. So, in a lecture of ‘two hours’, he/she will try to be simple so that it is understandable to the most dumb but as a matter of being just to all, he has to give food for thought, hints and signs for the most bright so that they can catch on those hints and work out the details. That is to say that he/she has to be simple and comprehensive but concise as well as profound at the same time, in those two hours, to be most productive. If a GOD can’t accomplish this, it means a failure on His part. Thus, for me, different interpretations are a sign of richness and profundity rather than failure. No two students in a class get exactly the same thing and understanding of subject from the teacher who has to make his/her “several hours” of study, research and knowledge available in ‘just two hours’.
8 Feb 08
your answer does not include the fact that this is gods work, and gods work is perfect. So if its intent was to teach us something, it would have. the fact that gods word is distorted and told differently is proof that the book is not perfect, and ultimatly, is not the word of god.
• United States
3 Feb 08
Good question. Of course you know where I stand in terms of biblical truth/fiction; most of what I believe is testimony, not really prophecy (although I don't totally disbelieve in the truth of some prophecies, such as the prophecy of Cyrus and his conquest). I don't think God is concerned with us knowing His history. For someone who exists outside of time, it's all part of the moment. When God "speaks" to me, you might say it is and isn't verbal. I understand it verbally, but it's not really a voice I'm hearing. It's like an urge is pushing me. But the only things God has ever said to me were commands, not prophecy.
• United States
3 Feb 08
Of course it could be, but I seriously doubt it, because the timing was impeccable. When I was in OT (Occupational Therapy) for my left hand, I had to get rides to and from the clinic. I had a neighbor who left for commitments of his own at an opportune time, but could not wait for me if I was running behind. It happened that I was running behind on at least three occasions I can remember, until this "urge" told me, "It's time to leave, NOW!" So I dropped what I was doing and ran to his house, just in the nick of time. Somehow, I managed not to miss a beat, in spite of how disoriented I was months after the injury. I think I had OT for a year-and-a-half before my medical release. I've also told you about the "coincidence" with my friend Nicole and her father's credit card, as well as a few others. I suppose a polytheist who believes in an inherent power in humans could say everyone has this sixth sense autonomously, but I find it too centralized to be inherent in every person. I had absolutely no conscious idea what was happening with my friend 3,000 miles away, but everything fell into place like clockwork. It's been months since then, and I can't recall every event that took place, but there were far too many of them for mere coincidence, and I find it hard to believe that my subconscious mind was putting this whole puzzle together. That would have to mean I had a degree of control over at least five people (Kat, Chris, Ron, the pickup driver, and the judge). :S And I ain't no Professor X!
• United States
5 Feb 08
I believe your answer is in your question. Individuality. I believe God created us in his likeness which is "thought", "consciousness", and the ability to create through that consciousness/thought. We were also given free will... meaning "God" will not interfere with "what" we create... we come to understand whether what we have made serves a higher or baser purpose by the experiences we have. I believe the diversity and differences are one of the most wonderful aspects of our creation... like the variety of flowers, animals, landscapes, cultures... beliefs with which our world is populated... When you come to a personal understanding of YOUR concept of "God" it no longer becomes subjective, because you have a "knowing" that helps you understand at your personal level and also the higher spiritual realms.
4 Feb 08
Many people are visionaries,and they use religion to control peoples mind and culture.They also use it to profit for money,if these people really like to teach the true meaning of the bible,then perhaps there will be one or two at the most christian religion in the world.Other people are truly against the teachings of god so that explains the other religion,or these visionaries are the ones who created the other religion to confuse people and profit in terms of political power that resulted in conflicts of religion.
• United States
3 Feb 08
Simple. Why so many religions? because there are so many different people. And even with people there are different needs.The G-ds remain the same, people change.Their needs from their relationship with Him/Her/ Them changes.So it depends on the person how The G-ds speak to them.