Britain my Britain

@p1kef1sh (45640)
April 7, 2008 7:27am CST
A friend of mine living in North America is thinking of relocating to Great Britain. Now I have tried putting her off. But she seems resistant to my efforts. So, what are your impressions of Britain. Are we all cream teas, Buckingham palace and "Toffs". Or is there a darker side to us. What role do you think that Great Britain plays in the World today.
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@skinnychick (6907)
• United States
7 Apr 08
I like the accents and the lingo... but of course I'm not fom there!
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
Rather Old Gal. But I am sure that we would welcome you with open arms if you decided to pay us a visit.
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• United States
7 Apr 08
I would love too, I'm sure I would have a great time!!
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@Stiletto (4584)
8 Apr 08
Why are you trying to put her off? I think this country is a great place to live. I'm Scottish and I tend to think of myself as Scottish first and British second but overall I don't mind being called British - its when people call it England instead of Britain that it does my head in. I've read all the other responses and your comments and yes, of course there are downsides to Britain. No country is absolutely perfect but for me the good far outweighs the bad. I've been to quite a few other countries and I've really liked some of them but I still wouldn't want to live anywhere else. We have beautiful scenery, a long and proud history, free healthcare, eccentric people, what more could you want? Well - good weather would be nice I suppose but we can't have everything lol. Your friend could do a lot worse than relocate here. Just as long as she doesn't really think it's all toffs and cream teas. Boy is she in for a shock if she does!
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
Of course I love Britain, and actually I will be at Heathrow to meet her if she decides to come. The putting off thing is just my little joke because I know that if she wants to come, nothing that I can say will put her off. She will read this discussion and laugh. IT is her dream to be here and I hope that she realises it. But we are not without our flaws and the country frankly, is not such a good place as once it was. It is a fact that more people leave this country than arrive and that has to be worrying. But I don't want to live anywhere else either. Home is still home. You cannot find more diverse scenery in one small place as we have. Our heritage and tradition are world leading. Sh has been before, I think that she knows that we can't all get to tea with the Queen every week! Hope so, or as you say, she's in for a shock.
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• United States
7 Apr 08
I could never relocate to Great Britain. Well I could but only if I were deaf. Otherwise I would need to change my panties every time a man spoke to me in that oh so sexy accent of yours. I don't really know too much about your country. From what I understand it rains a lot and the weather is usually cooler than I like it. I would love to visit but never would consider relocating there.
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
'ello Darlin, hodju kna moi accent is sexy then? Sounds like you had better come straight away. I shall appoint myself your personal pantie bag holder. The weather is a very good point. Today for example we have had snow, sleet, sun and showers. Cool rather than cold though. It's April 7 for heavens sake. Maidens like yourself should be frolicking in the parks whilst chaps like me sit wiping our waxed mustaches and muttering "Jolly good show". Visit us. You know you want to.
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@pumpkinjam (5801)
• United Kingdom
8 Apr 08
I am surprised people still see us that way, considering all the anti-social publicity recently. There are many sides to us, as I am sure there are in any other place in the world. Some good people, some not so good. I'd like to think of myself more like your description well, not quite but closer to that scale than ASBO-land. However, your friend would have to choose very carefully exactly where she wanted to move to. Where I live, for example, looks nice in places and it's in a very good location to get about because of being close to motorways and 2 major cities. However, in the same place, people are throwing a handkerchief down and building 75 houses on it. There are less people here than there used to be because so many have been put in prison, there is a serious unemployment problem and there are a lot of unambitious people who think getting drunk is the only form of entertainment there is. I would guess this is the situation in many places and I wouldn't want your friend to risk ending up in such circumstances. Now, if she has a good job to come to then it may be worth it but there is also the rising cost of living. I knowit's the same in the US but it may be "out of the frying pand and into the fire" as they say.
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
Your point is well made. She is thinking of retiring here so she won't be looking for work. However, there are some areas of the country that really are in a mess. You made me laugh when you said that there were fewer people there because they had all gone to prison. But it is true that we have a huge behavioural problem amongst many that are disaffected. My friend is looking to move to the south Midlands/south/south west. Our scenery is beautiful here, but we are not exempt all the social issues either.
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• United Kingdom
8 Apr 08
South Midlands isn't too bad. If your friend is retiring she may find it nice but I would still certainly recommend finding out as much as possible about every aspect of whichever area she chooses before making a final decision. There is also the issue of having stimulation, things to do. That may be something to research too. She won't want to move somewhere and then find she is totally isolated.
@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
That's a good point abut stimulation. I think that furthest north she would look at is Oxford. Plenty going on there. She is interested in architecture, history and culture so, any of the regional cities: Bath, Exeter, Winchester, Chichester even Salisbury.
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@mummymo (23707)
8 Apr 08
Yeah and Scotland is all bagpipes, kilts and haggis! lol I think that Great Britain has a lot to offer , no matter what part of it you are in! Yes there is a darker side, there are racists, bigots, homophobes there is crime and violence but for every person like that there are a hundred good people and communities who are welcoming and supportive! For all the darker side it doesn't make us a bad country - it makes us the same as any other! xxx
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
You are right Mummymo. I just love your sense of balance. You always hit the spot. We have our dark side but we are not all bad. That's so true.
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@mummymo (23707)
8 Apr 08
Thanks p1ke! I do have my moments when I get angry and can't see both sides but I think it is good to see things from many angles! xxx
@dorypanda (1584)
8 Apr 08
Hmmm, have you got them to watch a couple of episodes of 'Little Britain'? That just might put them off. :) Well, we have a rather changable climate, that I think is a good thing as if you don't like the weather at the moment, just wait, then it'll be something completely different. I drink lots of tea, therefore I am a typical Englishfishy or should that say Engfish? I love cream teas and I like going to museums and art galleries. England (and the rest of Britain) is steeped in culture and history, something the Americans don't seem to have much of with it being a young country compared to here. On the other hand, have you told your friend about the muggings/stabbings/shootings that happen here? That's a large downside to coming to Britain. There's also the chance of being robbed by a 'hoodie' or having tyres slashed or having their home graffitied. I wonder if telling them that might put them off?
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
I confess that I have only ever watched about 5 minutes of Little Britain. I don't get the joke. All those anti-social things that you describe are true, no doubt about it. But I think that there are many countries in Europe that are just as bad. Also all the other stuff about tea drinking, culture, heritage are equally valid. On balance however I think that we still have good stuff going for us, but we are in chronic need of someone to give us a good shake and sort out our areas of deprivation. A few more people like your Mum Dory. That's what we want here. That would stiffen us all up.
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@maximax8 (28558)
• United Kingdom
7 Apr 08
I live in Great Britain and so I know quite a lot about living there. London is a huge city and it has interesting sites like Tower Bridge, the Tower of London, the Houses of Parliament, the London Eye and Big Ben. It is a busy place with crowds all over the place. It is popular with foreign tourists. Accommodation, food and transport can be quite pricey. There are rural areas that are nice to see like The Lake District. There are some lovely cities to go to like York, Chester, Canterbury and Bath. The population is about 58 million and Queen Elizabeth lives at Buckingham Palace. Great Britain has a rich history and some very attractive architecture. It is often a great experience to live in a foreign country for a while and it helps to read about going to that country first. If your friend goes to the UK I hope that she will get a lot from this experience.
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
Hello Maximax. I live here too and concur with everything you said. She wants to move here and live out her days here. She has visited and liked it. We are all trying to leave and she wants to come. Still it's not all bad. You're in Weston Super Mare aren't you? Well there is the most spectacular coastline running south west from you and of course when the tide is out you can walk half way to Wales. Fantastic.
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@Sissygrl (10915)
• Canada
9 Apr 08
P1ke, i'm not very worldly.. i imagine you people are a lot like us people just with different accents and different ways of doing some of the things that we all do. . like you drive your cars on the wrong side of the street. LOL. or maybe its the right side.. who knows!
@p1kef1sh (45640)
9 Apr 08
I think that UK and US citizens are very similar and very different. Two great nations divided by a common language is how I describe it. We do drive on the left side of the road. But we only do it top annoy!! LOL. Come visit us sometime. I will personally show you some of the the sights. Starting with me. That's a heck of a sight. LOL
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@Sissygrl (10915)
• Canada
9 Apr 08
ha ha p1ke, I am canadian! Colonized by the britz! ;) We are you and you are us! *smiles*
@p1kef1sh (45640)
10 Apr 08
Well Sissy I have been to Western Canada and I didn't feel especially at home. Although if there is a country that I would go back to again in a heartbeat it would be there. Driving across the Alberta plains near Calgary watching the Rockies slowly appear is quite the most breathtaking thing. Perhaps next time I'll try the east coast.
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• United States
7 Apr 08
I dont know much about Great Britain. What i do know i heard from a documantry, i dont know which one Anyways it was talking about the cameras on the street corners, along with police. I dont think i would like that to much. I also remember one lady that they reviewed and she said that we have to give up our libertys to get freedom. I dont know if she doesnt realize they are two seperate things that mean the same thing. I dont know exactly whats going on over there, because i havent talked to someone from Great Britain, and i know that documentrys are choosy to the side they are trying to prove (this one was trying to prove that yall are a police state, adn that the Great Britain government are the ones doing the bombings yall are having over there to put fear in the people so that they could have control over yall ) so I would perfer someone that lives there veiws than someone only showing one side. My fiance told me to put in here that there is also the fact that tax payers dollars are paying for the Queens million dollar yacht
@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
The types of response I want most are one like yours. I want to know what people that have never been here or have only visited think of us. Actually we are turning into a bit of a police state and there are cameras on most street corners. The police have incredible powers now compared to just 10 years ago, and for many of us, it is not something that we welcome. We are the most watched country in Europe. Just to put one thing straight though. The Queen no longer has her own yacht. The Government hire one if needed. I don't think that the Government are orchestrating the bombings though. There is a terrorist threat here, but we have lived with that for 40 years. First from the IRA and more recently, well who knows who? Thanks though.
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• United States
7 Apr 08
i didnt really beleive that the government was trying to controll yall with fake bombings, but i did think that the other part was partly true. I would hate living in a police state. I hope it gets better over there. Does the cops act like complete jerks or anything? Its good that the Queen doesnt have her yacht that was oh so expinsive. I posted a discussion about this old president of Iraq (or Iran) and he had a manson house that looked like a HIGH HIGH class hotel, and he had a car made of Silver. Thats the one thing i dont like about leaders is they always take advantage of there position.
@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
Cops act like complete jerks everywhere. It's not their fault. They have their brains removed on entry and then a small piece handed back each year until they retire. Actually, by and large the UK's police are good guys, but corporately they are not so hot. Especially in London. Western leaders tend not to be financially corrupt, but they are morally corrupt I have no doubt. They took us to war by feeding us lies and that is unforgivable in my book.
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
8 Apr 08
HOW did I miss this discussion? Doesn't matter really. I refuse to read it. I don't want to know. Britain my Britain has no dark side. Britain is perfect. The whole world has been the beneficiary of it's legacy and I refuse - refuse!, to read anything negative about it. I speak English, drink tea (warm the pot first!), love lavender, look great in a mini skirt, and plant my garden by throwing seeds into the wind, all because of England. So dis my England, dis me - at you're peril!
@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
Sparky (see I haven't gone to bed yet) this discussion is in your honour. I just wanted to get a feel for how people really see Britain. But whatever anyone says. I will be at Heathrow to meet you. Carry your bags and whisk you away to whatever part of this country you designate as your little Shangri La. Now I am going to bed.
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
8 Apr 08
I kinda knew it was for me my sweet friend. That's why I don't want to read anything negative about Britain my Britain! Sleep well, dream sexy I'll get back to seducing you along with nova tomorrow! LOL
• India
8 Apr 08
what i feel of great britain based on the reviews i got from friend who's gone there to study media is that it's an extremely cold country.when we have summers out here they still are experiencing cold weather there.my impression of great britain is stiff lip accent and a very sarcastic tongue.english just tend to drop in caustic comments when you're expecting it the least.
@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
The climate here is a lot cooler than most of India. We rarely gets extremes of temperature although Scotland does get heavy snow often in the winter. I think that they are experiencing some right now. The traditional British accent exists, but is outnumbered by regional accents. In fact for such a small country we have a very high number of accents. We do have a cynicism that can be mistaken for sarcasm. But we are also quite good at making fun of ourselves.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
8 Apr 08
And the accents are getting to be more all the time because of the immigrants who come into the country and get more from the government than people who have worked here and paid taxes all their working lives.
@ruby222 (4848)
7 Apr 08
Oh heck Piky..ive slung the biscuits and am now sat with a huge brandy.. Well im not too sure what to think of this question...Britain..yes..Great Britain..sadly very possibly no longer..though it pains me to say. On one hand we have things to be incredibly proud of as Brits..our heritage,the Royal family...and some may well want to shooot me for saying that...but..our Queen has been a wonderful ambassador for our country.There are things that we as Brits do well!!!! Of course there is a darker side to us..as there is with all nations...There is good and bad everywhere.. There are things that make me feel incredibly sad,losing our industry to overseas competitors,crime rates,to name but a few. Yes,the deterrents in this country should be tougher!!!... But we cannot look through rose coloured spectacles at the possibility of things being so very different in any other country!!!... So..to sum up..yes things could be better..but on the other hand things could be a lot worse...... I will now return to my brandy...roger over and out...
@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
I really really like you Ruby. A game gal as they say. I have a vision of you sitting there, Brandy in hand, biscuit wrapper round your feet, whilst you pound the keys. LOL. I am a monarchist, not a Royalist. i.e. The Queen, Charles (William in time) and for some reason Anne all get my vote, but I am not wild about the rest. I think that the loss of our industry is criminal and I blame a certain octogenarian lady for that. She was hell bent on turing us into a service based economy. But subsequent PMs haven't done anything to redress the problem either. Crime rate, the police state, they are all on us. But on a good day, there's still nowhere like home.
@ruby222 (4848)
7 Apr 08
Well another brandy later....chapter two... The Queen,William and Anne.... The Queen for her dedication. William is a breath of fresh air,long may he stay like that. Anne is wonderfully direct..I wished I could be more like her. A mention for Phillip...a wandering eye..and sometimes a wandering sometihng else!!...but a stalwart companion for Elizabeth...lets face it none of us are perfect. But home is as you say...its where the heart is...it home!!! Be it by no means perfect!
@Aingealicia (1906)
• United States
7 Apr 08
There is a very dark side to Britain. I have a brother in London. I am from Ireland. History is history. However there are nice "blokes" like you that make the world of Great Britain great. Ainge
@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
Of course there is a dark side. But look at the great nations that we started. Beginning with your own. In fact we were so busy making everybody else great that we didn't notice that we aren't Great ourselves any more. Still we'll always follow someone else to war if they flatter us enough. You know who I mean. Grrrrrrr. Like the poetry by the way.
• United States
8 Apr 08
I agree with you there. Thanks for the compliment. You know this was a good country too, it still is in a lot of points. Right now I am free to write what I want and can say it. Thankfully. Yet, in the same token, we are so very much the same. I do understand what you mean. I feel so much pain as I see things happening everyday that are being stripped in plain site. No one is standing for up to keep it. However that is something for my blog not here. I only hope my writing can make a difference in someones world. That is why I do what I do you know, it only takes one person to begin a fire. Ainge
@MAMABLAZE (242)
• United States
8 Apr 08
I have no idea what role Great Britain is playing in the world even at the best of times. Maybe your friend just feels the need for change. I'm sure moving to another country would fit the bill. She must think the change will do some good in her life. The grass may be greener on the other side of the fence in her view. Being that I am also here in the U.S. I could understand her wanting to give something new a try. All I have to do though is go about 70 miles from my current location and I tend to feel relief from stress of life as soon as I get off the highway. Sometimes you don't have to travel far to make changes and somtimes you do. Mamablaze!!
@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
I think that is very true. You can find ways to relax right at home. However, my friend has a long held ambition to live in the UK for a while. So if he wants to realise that she will have to come here.
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@us2owls (1681)
• United States
8 Apr 08
I was born and raised in Sheffield England and moved to the USA to join my American serviceman husband when I was 22. I sailed from Liverpool to New York with my then 8 month old daughter. When I arrived i New York and saw the roads and traffic I wanted to get back on the ship and go home. I lived in Pennsylvania for a year and then moved to a small farming town in Central Illinois where I still have a home. Since 1997 I have made numerous trips back to the UK for extended visits and I am there now - back in Sheffield. The changes are horrendous. I do not go out alone after dark. Crime here is unbelievable and getting worse by the day. When we are in the house we sit behind locked doors - my doors are never locked in the USA. Here in Sheffield I was robbed in the house at 2 in the afternoon. Every night you pick up the paper and read about a shooting or a stabbing. They get a slap on the hand and are back on the streets in no time to do it again. My advice to anyone thinking of swapping the USA to make the UK their permanent home would be DON'T DO IT. Not only is it the crime - the cost of living here in the UK is higher - the food it poor compared to USA quality of food and the government here seems to have forgotten the working man. I will be going home in a few weeks and to be honest with you - I can't wait. My friend that I am with is seriously thinking about giving up on the UK and moving to the USA with me permanently.
@p1kef1sh (45640)
8 Apr 08
Well that says it all. I don't know Sheffield at all, but I can well believe that you are locked in at night. That happens here. How awful that you have been robbed too, in the house. I hope that you are OK. I can understand the reasons why you want to stay in the States in that case. I seriously think that you should send your post here to the Home Secretary. What you have described is appalling. I have no answer. Your experience is I believe not the norm for most of us. But in your shoes I would feel exactly the same way.
@inked4life (4227)
• United States
7 Apr 08
I am from Scotland originally and moved away when I was 19. Britain, like most every other country in the world, has places of great beauty with touches of squallor mixed in for good measure. It should also be noted that I cringe when called British as people usually associate British as English. Now, I have nothing....much....against the English, but I am 100% Scottish and don't care to be called anything else. I'd move back in a heartbeat. There are no better people in the world in my opinion and I always just feel very comfortable when I visit.
@p1kef1sh (45640)
7 Apr 08
My friend actually wants to live in England. I did think that I might call the discussion "England my England", but that would have shut out the bone fide Scots, Welsh and Irish and I would have spent half the discussion defending myself. So it's "Britain". In any case, I love the other bits of Britain as much as I do England. Pretty much anyway. But it is important sometimes that you associate with your roots. I am sure if you veer wanted to come back, there'd be a welcome for you.