They came and arrested her with everyone looking

United States
April 15, 2008 9:58pm CST
While I was working today two uniformed policemen arrested one of the employees that worked at the Estee Lauder counter. I have no idea what she may have done, but apparently she had worked there for awhile. My personal opinion is that she should have been called to the office by a manager and confronted by the police there instead of doing it publicly in front of customers. Obviously the store sees it differently and wanted to use her as an example of what could happen if you commit a crime while under their employ. What do you think would be have been the best way of handling the situation?
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@Aussies2007 (5339)
• Australia
16 Apr 08
Her crime might not have been related to the store. If it was... she would have been called to the manager office to inform her of the charges. But at the end of the day... it makes no difference... as you would still be escorted through the store by the police... after leaving the manager office.
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• United States
16 Apr 08
Its true that we don't know what exactly she may have been arrested for. Because it was in the store, its easy to assume it was employment related. As for escorting her through the store, there are many entrances and exits that could have been used and still been able to keep it discreet.
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• Australia
21 Apr 08
Stupidity has no bound... and it is everywhere. But at the end of the day... what we regard as stupid... is done for a perfectly good reason by the person doing it... in her mind anyway. I think... the stupidiest part about all this... is that she thought she would get away with it.
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• Australia
21 Apr 08
Except that she is not a criminal. She is a common stupid petty thief. Real criminals are usually smarter than the rest of us.
@Shaun72 (15968)
• Palatka, Florida
16 Apr 08
I agree with you. They should have called her to the office and had it done there. That had to have been a nightmare for that poor girl. Then again when I worked at Walmart I did see one employee that got arrested for stealing jewelery. She was wearing her stolen jewelery to work.
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• United States
16 Apr 08
That was just plain stupid on that employees part. Bad enough she stole in the first place, but to wear her stolen wares to work is really asking for trouble.
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@Shaun72 (15968)
• Palatka, Florida
16 Apr 08
Oh I agree but she was still a student in high school. So they didn't do to much to her. At the same time I am sure she proberly had a hard time finding another job.
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@ElicBxn (59820)
• United States
16 Apr 08
It could've been for outstanding warrents (even traffic tickets.) It could be that they were afraid that she'd run if she thought they were for her.
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• United States
16 Apr 08
Thats a good point, it might not have been work related at all, but as I said in a previous comment had she tried to run security would have been all over it.
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@ElicBxn (59820)
• United States
16 Apr 08
That might've been even more disruptive for customers. And could've caused things, expensive things, to be broken. I know 2 stores that I saw shoplifters stopped at. One I don't patronize because on 2 different occasions I was nearly involved in those self-same shoplifters were tackled at my feet. The other I twice saw staff come out and escort them back inside. I conceed that the one is in a much worse area (there's a homeless colony behind the store in a overgrown field and probably one in some of the other fields in the area) so I probably am just as well avoiding it. I do shop at other stores of the same name in other areas. Sadly, the other one closed so I have to go further away to avoid the bad store and shop. That store is also always a mob scene anyway, the parking is lousy and its just not as nice a store as some of the others are.
@lilybug (21182)
• United States
16 Apr 08
I think that they should have taken her back to the office and arrested her there. I am not sure I would want to shop in a place where cops come barging in and arrest employees. It would not make me feel safe shopping there. You never know what she was being arrested for.
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• United States
16 Apr 08
Exactly. You may not feel safe having someone wait on you that has the potential of being arrested for whatever her crime may have been. You wouldn't feel safe putting your purse down or giving any personal information.
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@webeishere (36377)
• United States
16 Apr 08
If I had seen this happening I would have been asking tons of questions afterwards of the other clerks working there tryiong to see what all was going on. HAPPY POSTINGS FROM GRANDPA BOB !!~
@clowdine (1402)
• Philippines
16 Apr 08
If that employee was not guilty at all, they were the ones who did a serious crime against that person. It's more than just a slander against her and she has to deal with many of sorts of damages now. It's so sad, so drastic,and so harsh. What if everything was a mistake? Then they owe her an apology, big time. On the other hand, if she was really guilty, they still did it the wrong way. Yes, everything has sinned and whoever who has no sin should cast the first stone and obviously, they cast a boulder to that poor employee but since it's something religious, it will not work here. This is something that concerns what is legal regardless of religion. But in the practical sense what you suggested is much more correct because they should have conducted a closed door investigation. What happened now to the right of the person to be given the benefit of the doubt? I'm not saying she should not in anyway be arrested, especially if they have a warrant prepared in good faith. But they should have carried out the arrest discreetly. I remember one of your friends whose story was also similar to this one where in she was asked to strip just to prove her innocence due to the missing item in that party she attended. People are doing harsh things. They don't make sense. Whether the apprehension is made public for warning purposes or made discreetly, it doesn't change a thing.
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• United States
16 Apr 08
If she didn't commit a crime, they could have a lawsuit on their hands, but believe me, they are pretty thorough about watching the goings on of the store. Do you know they have mall security cameras that can watch you on the far side of the parking lot and zoom into the writing on a dime you are holding in your hand?
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@pyewacket (43962)
• United States
16 Apr 08
I'm sorry, but I think that is so wrong for them to have publicaly done that...they really should have quietly asked her to come into the main office and then confront her
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• United States
16 Apr 08
I think so too. By arresting her in front of the general public it doesn't give a very good impression of the store or its employees.
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@maddysmommy (16243)
• United States
16 Apr 08
Not the way I would of done it if I was the Store Manager. I would never do things like that in public and would of taken her aside in a private room and dealt with it there. That is very embarrasing to have happen to someone. I suppose since she didn't care about the store and stole from it, they didn't care about her. Not nice though.
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• United States
16 Apr 08
Although I understand the possible reasoning behind how they chose to conduct the arrest. That being that if she stole, there was no reason to protect her reputation, at the same time I still think that arresting an employee in front of the general public gives the other employees a bad reputation they don't possibly deserve.
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@mrsjbelle (1641)
• United States
28 Apr 08
I dont think it would be up to the store Mgr at that point if the police were there wanting to arrest someone that would be up to them:)
@tjades (3594)
• Jamaica
16 Apr 08
Lamb to the slaughter. That must have been more than embarassing for both her and those who had to look on. I doubt I could watch. Making and example is one thing but publicly disgracing the person just to make an example of them is just quite crude in my opinion. I think they should have allowedd it to be done in a staff setting the most so that customers would not have to see it been done. If I was a customer at the time i would think less of the store managers. People relation is still a big part of the work environs I think and not just for the customers but the employees also. I dont know what she did but I really feel bad for her. She should be charged but at least with some decency. (lol)
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• United States
16 Apr 08
I think just the fact that everyone knows about it is humiliating enough without having to do it in front of everyone. I wouldn't want my shopping experience ruined by having to watch someone being arrested.
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@Hatley (148840)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Apr 08
I too think that the manager should haveasked her to come to his office and done all this privately . I had an odd experience when I took a part time job in a grafhics place where we were reproducing hand books for realtors. I had only been there abouta week when in came this team of border patrol people lookiingfor a bunch of illegal aliens thatthis graphics place had hired. I was gathered up in this sweep and given a paper saying I no longer worked there.I had to talk to one of the borderpatrol people and explain that I was not mexican but caucasian and also was an american citizen having been born here in South Dakota. But the manager of thegraphics place told me I was not fired just laid off.okay what the devil is the difference fired is fired. laid off let go just euphemisms for fired or canned. that was the first and last time Iwas ever fired until the head librarian let me go whichmeans fired.
• United States
16 Apr 08
Thats a very strange story. What was their reasoning for laying you off if you were obviously caucasian?
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@moneyandgc (3438)
• United States
16 Apr 08
I think for the reputation of the store; maybe they should have handled it differently. But, possibly Dillards feels that they are a big enough name to be able to handle that bit of negativity and felt it in their best interest to make an example out of this woman. If theft is a big problem in the store, they may think the negative image given to the shoppers who were witness to the arrest outweighs the scary image given to the other employees who may also be stealing. Dillards might be trying to send them a message. Who knows. I know of a couple of places that the employees were robbing the place blind. These weren't small mom and pop places either. It is a possibility that Dillards wasn't involved at all and weren't given the choice as to how she was arrested. Maybe it had nothing to do with her job at all.
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@hcpoirot (1562)
• Indonesia
24 Apr 08
Its wrong to arrested her on the spot. It just bad publicity for the store. The store owner can later talk to their employees about the arrested worker and show if the employees commit crime, police office will be the answer. So the customers didnot get distracted and the employees warn.
@cmelton (160)
• United States
21 Apr 08
I agree with you. This could have been done more privatly. To me that is not something I would want done in my store in front of customers anyway. Like you said she should have been called to the office or at least outside before arrested.
@anonymili (3140)
21 Apr 08
Oh it's a difficult one because if she was guilty of theft from the company then you can pretty much understand her being arrested in such an open manner BUT and this is a HUGE but... If there is even a small chance that she's innocent imagine the damage to her confidence and reputation done by such a public arrest? I would die of embarrassment if I was treated that way and if there's even a shadow of a doubt about her innocence this was a very poor way for her to be treated! Being called to the manager's office discreetly would be the most preferable way for this to be dealt with!
@cjgrooms (4457)
• United States
20 Apr 08
apperantly she wasn't embarresed to commit the crime soooo.
• United States
19 Apr 08
Even if she is guilty of something that is the wrong way to handle things. They should of taken her into the office or waited until she was off of work and had her go outside. There is no reason to belittle someone in that way and what if she was not even really guilty. Many times people have been taken in for something that they did not do if that is the case for her then they have really messed things up for her.
@winterose (39913)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
I think that is really awful, and I certainly would not want to have that done to me or anyone else. It is publicly humiliating. But perhaps the store had no control over this. It might have been an issue that did not even effect them. Perhaps the police just came and did it that way, which is what I tend to think happened. The reason I say that is that if this situation is in the view of the public it is not good for business, and no store wants that it scares customers away. If I shopped at a store and somebody from the store is being arrested in front of my face, that will scare me I am not going back to that store. Whatever the funny business is going on, I don't want to find out.
• United States
17 Apr 08
I work in retail. There have been quite a few fellow workers that have been arrested for theft here. Why should these thieves be treated with kid gloves after they caused their own grief. I don't believe the store used her as an example.I've seen co-workers do some pretty underhanded things thinking they were going to get away with it, including managers.
• Canada
17 Apr 08
I think they handled it properly. That way no one else would attempt to commit a crime. I think the best way to combat this at work is by embarrasing the person.
@crackhead (1826)
• India
16 Apr 08
I guess it should have been a bit soft on her. This is rude and might hurt her so hard. There should be some other simple way to deal with employs. It may have created some panic and which is not a good sign. She being working there for a while now atleast she deserves some respect and the police should have handled it in a private manner rather than rushing into the office.
@carolscash (9504)
• United States
16 Apr 08
I don't think that things like that should be handled in public like that either. I believe that you should take the employee off the sales floor if they are going to be arrested. It is not the time to make someone an example! Let's hope that she is okay and didn't really do anything that will get her into a lot of trouble.