Jimmy Carter meets Hamas Leaders.

@Pose123 (21667)
Canada
April 19, 2008 9:35am CST
While I know that many people will disagree with me, I applaud former US president Jimmy Carter for meeting with Hamas leaders. No matter how we feel about these people, nothing can be achieved by ignoring them. We witnessed the killings that went on for years in Northern Ireland, because leaders from both sides adamantly refused to talk to each other. World peace is possible, but cannot be accomplished until we begin a dialogue. Many times we find that those we think off as enemies aren't very different from ourselves. In the end we all want what is best for our family and friends, and that as everyone will eventually learn is peace.
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@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
19 Apr 08
I think Jimmy Carter is wrong and is doing more harm than good. You don't achieve peace by giving in to the. enemy. Look what happened before WWII and the world leaders gave into Hitler and helped him become more powerful in the eyes of the Germans. What he did was give approval to Hamas and what they are doing. His meeting with them told the Arab world that this is a legal group and our support of their ideas is correct. Like it or not being a former president he is telling Hamas that what they are doing is OK and the rest of the world is wrong.
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@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
Hi bobmnu, Thank for for responding, and for your thoughts. We all have the right to our opinion. I think that the world war 11 situation was completely different. This has nothing to do with giving in to the enemy. It is opening up a dialogue, and nothing will be achieved until that happens. The former President did not give approval to Hamas or to what they are doing. Jimmy carter is a world renowned peacemaker, and if he believes that this is the way to go, I think we should at least respect his opinion. I am confident that he will be proven right in the end. Blessings.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
20 Apr 08
President Carter was behind the Land for Peace aka Camp David Accord. Israel gave up land for peace and got more attacks on them and killed many civilians. With Hamas or the PLO you are dealing with one person and if they give their word they are speaking for themselves only. Every time Israel agrees to a peace treaty or agreement with the PLO or Hamas those who disagree with it feel free to attack Israel and the the PLO or Hamas will do nothing to stop it. To the Arab world President Carter's visit to Hamas gave them legal standing and made them a world player. We got nothing out of the trip and they gained status in the Arab World.
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• United States
20 Apr 08
I'll bet Jimmy got a big check too...
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• United States
20 Apr 08
Jimmy Carter is only getting involved because he is anti-semitic and he has financial ties with the Arabs. He has said that "Israel is the problem in the Middle East", that is not the truth. He has been receiving money from Arab patrons for years. The same Arabs who want to see Israel destroyed. The Jimmy Carter Center is funded by tens of millions of dollars from Arab states that persecute women, homosexuals, and Christians and want to see Israel destroyed. In 1993 Saudi King Fhad gave Carter Center 7.6 million dollars. His nephew Prince Alwaleed gave 5 million to the center. Mayor Rudy Giuliani returned his gift, Jimmy Carter did not. He has taken "gifts" from 10 of Osama Bin Laden's brothers and from the Saudi Fund and The United Arab Emirates. Lol, he called them "moderate" when in fact they fund terrorists against the West. They deny women the right to appear "uncovered" in public, or drive a car and they finance Hamas. He was buddies with Yaser Arafat who said in 1980 "Peace for us means the destruction of Israel"! Jimmy Carter won a Nobel Peace prize-for attacking his own President in a time of war. Please don't be fooled by Jimmy Carter...
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@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
20 Apr 08
Hi WhatsHerName, Thank you for responding and for your opinion. I have heard similar stories about the Bush family, and I find it very difficult to believe any of them. I know that Jimmy Carter is a well respected world statesman, who has worked hard for peace. I admire that in anyone. Blessings.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
21 Apr 08
President Carter was urged by several world leaders not to contact Hamas. Hamas is a group of thugs and terriorists who are out to cause trouble. They are no different than the Barbarry Pirates that President Jefferson had to deal with. The only thing they understand is force. President Reagan had to deal with another group of terriorists when they bombed the Marine Barricks in Leabon. he sunk the Iranian navy and that enede the treeiorist attacks. President Clinton had several terriorist attacks to deal with and tried to deal with then in a leagal system and got nothing but more attacks. It is like dealing with the playground bully if you stand up to him and fight back he will leave you alone.
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@tigertang (1750)
• Singapore
12 May 08
Hamas may not be the nicest group of people but unfortunately for conventional US and Israeli thinking, these guys were actually elected into parliament in an election that was considered fair. Yes, the world knows that these guys have beards and don't recognise the right of the State of Israel to exist. However, as far as most Palestinians were concerened, these guys where honest and ran a competent administrations in Palestinian controlled areas. Whatever one thinks of the Israeli's and the Arabs, we have to look at certain ground realities. The USA made such a big deal of how it wanted more democracy in the Middle East. It made a big deal about how it wanted the Arabs to get democracy and when the Palestinians did elect someone - the USA isolates them. Perhaps its hard for Americans to undestand this but ...as far as most people in the Middle East are concerned, this smacks of Imperial bullying. Crush'em till they bleed does not work against a people that have grown up having the living day lights kicked out of them. Fatah, the now so called "Secularist Moderates," basically robbed the Palestinians but they were approved by the USA and Israel. The Palestians decided to vote for the guys who were vaguely honest and willing to stand up to the guys they considered the oppressors. At every go, the Bush Administration and Israel have played into the hands of the extremist in Hamas. The more one goes on about the need to starve out Hamas, the more one is comitting an anti-semitic act of terrorism against the Arab people and another act of anti-semetism against Israeli people for not bringing them to the negotiating table. Incidentally Jimmy Carter, this so called Anti-Semetic Jew-Hater, is the only US president to have brought Israel a peace treaty that has lasted til this day (Egypt-which happens to the most populous Arab State). Between the work of the Anti-Semite who has brought peace to Israel and the Anti-Semites who insist on war, I know which one I would go for.
• United States
20 Apr 08
Why should Hamas be rewarded with high level talks when they have done nothing to earn it???? They won't even acknowledge Israel's right to exist as a country, let alone stop launching rockets into civilian buildings. Getting to talk to a major power is a reward for going behavior. That's how it works in the world of international politics. If you refuse to act like an adult and just throw temper tantrums, you don't get to sit at the big people table. Period. Talking to them when they don't want peace accomplishes nothing to but legitimizing their murderous behavior. If they want to talk they need to agree to certain conditions -- like stop killing civilians.
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@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
20 Apr 08
Hi rosettaresearch, Thank you for responding, and for your opinion. I still don't believe that ignoring them is the answer. When people talk, things get resolved. Blessings.
@Mirita (2668)
• United States
19 Apr 08
Well, peace is only possible if people are willing to change and stop the violence. My question to you is the following: Do you thing Hamas leaders are ready to search for peace instead of violence?
@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
Hi Mirita, Thanks for responding. I believe that Hamas believes that we are the cause of the violence, just as most of us think they are. Someone with the talents of former President Carter, a world renowned peacemaker, could help them see another side of those they call the enemy. Barriers fall when people begin to learn more about each other. My greatest desire is to see peace in the world, and I'm pleased to see Someone like the former President take the first step. Blessings.
@faith210 (11233)
• Philippines
19 Apr 08
Hi Pose123! yes, i do agree with you. Having an open communication or having a dialogue is one step towards peace. A dialogue means that both parties are open to reconciliation. I just hope that all of the countries in the world will achieve peace so we can enjoy a good harmonious world. Just my thoughts. Take care and have a nice day!
@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
Hi faith, Thank you for commenting. we are in complete agreement. Blessings.
• United States
19 Apr 08
Sure, Jimmy's interests and Georgie's interests are on two different planes. Jimmy seemed to have the best interests of the people at heart, whereas George seems to be interested only in more power and control over the people. It is my personal theory that he will not go talk to the leaders of Iran or Iraq because it does not serve his purpose. George's purpose is not peace, it is more money, more power, more control. The more war and ugliness, the more reason to call martial law, stop the election, and become the dictator he dreams of being. I know that sounds far fetched, but oh well. The pieces add up, and I've never, ever hoped and prayed to be more wrong about something.
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@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
Hi visitorinvasion, Thank you for commenting. I don't believe it's as bad as you seem to think, but I do agree that Bush and Carter have very different agendas, and I much prefer Carter's way of doing things. Pray for peace for all peoples of the world. Blessings.
• India
19 Apr 08
Relly appreciate that. Hamas does not recognise Israel, but I think dialogues must continue. If we don't talk both will finally lose. There is no loss in talking with your enemies. We need to condemn whoever crosses the boundary of human rights violation, but we should never ever give up dialogues. Go on Mr. Carter. We are praying for your effort.
@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
Thank you headhunter for responding and for your thoughts. Mr Carter as the elder statesman, and world respected peacemaker, cannot be dismissed easily. Blessings.
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
22 Apr 08
While on paper its a good idea, I just don't trust who is doing it. Other members stated most of what I'm thinking so I'll not rehash. Carter has had his anti-semetic moments (perhaps being read into too much, but its my observation). Hamas was calling for the eradication of Israel for many years but recent news claims it'll accept a two-state peace... I'm still skeptical (I'm allowed to be that...) on what will really happen, as some recent past concessions/"agreements" just lead to more violence.