Tipping is Dumb

United States
May 9, 2008 5:11pm CST
First, I want to say - I usually tip 15-20%. But really? Why am I required to tip at all? Why is it that restraunts get away with paying their waitress less and expect the customer to finish pay them? I know it's been said that you are paying for a service - but if I am going to a place of business, I expect to get good service anyways. If I go to Kroger and the cashier was extra nice to me in ringing up my coupons - should I give her a tip cause she did her job or because she was extra nice?
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@rockvixen (894)
• United States
14 May 08
Tipping helps the ones who service you. Waitresses don't get paid much. Here they get about 4 dollars per hour, but only work part time. Tips help increase their earning and it shows that they did a good job. Yes I know it seems silly and stupid to you, but in fact you are helping that person out. You don't have to tip, but I do tip. I find it to be courteous.
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• United States
14 May 08
But, I think the point the person was making was that waitresses/waiters should get paid better by their employers. The person even said they do tip. But, why have it set up so people have to rely on tips? Shouldn't their employers pay them better wages?
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• United States
15 May 08
Right Angel. I do tip because I know waitress/waiters don't get paid that much. I would never dream of going out to eat and not tipping - and I always tip before coupons too. Alot of people don't know your supposed to tip before coupons. But the point I was trying to make was why am I - as a customer required to make up that persons wages. When I go out to eat - I expect to get good service - no matter what. If I get bad service I will let the manager know. The same with any place else I go - if I am giving them money - I expect good service. I am the customer. Why is waitress so different that the wage is less then minimum and the customer has to make up for it? I don't believe the cost of food would go up in the restaurant. Not that much anyways - I mean every other store or place of employment affords to pay their employees minimum wage and above - and they stay in business just fine. So what is so different about a restaurant and waitress?
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@vera5d (4006)
• United States
9 May 08
It does seem silly that it is necessary to pay extra for the service and that people can get away with paying someone $2.83 an hour (that's what waitress minimum wage is here) - at the same time if you are good at it, you can actually earn a pretty good living that way - I was making about $80 in 5-6 hours each night when I was a waitress, my brother who is a waiter makes much more than that each night as he works in an expensive and busy restaurant. He makes nearly $150 each day he works, which for a 20 year old college kid is pretty dang good! I wish I would have done it when I was his age.
@Ravenladyj (22937)
• United States
28 May 08
people can get away with paying someone $2.83 an hour (that's what waitress minimum wage is here) WHAT?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! THATS NUTS! servers minimum wage in Ontario is $7.60 hr..standard minimum wage is $8.75...$2.83 hr?!? thats just ludacris!!
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@Bd200789 (2994)
• United States
27 May 08
It isn't fair that they get a lower wage. They work too hard for such a low amount. If the waitress did a good job, she deserves a good tip.
@sid556 (31000)
• United States
14 Jun 08
or how about if the waitress does a good job, she deserves a decent wage?
• United States
27 May 08
In most ways I agree. I do think it's ridiculous that the restaurant gets away with slave labor, barely even paying the waiter/waitress to come to work and making them beg for their tip. But on the other hand it's a way to applaud or boo a service provided. You're more likely to get good service when they know you are the one handling their pay, yet some people will and do abuse this ability and often under tip.
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@sid556 (31000)
• United States
14 Jun 08
But it's that way in most public places. I work in a convenience store and I don't get tips. I'm friendly and go out of my way for my customers all the time. They all tell me how much it means to them and some have even go to my boss and told him good things. If my boss onely paid me 2.83 an hour and if I relied on tips to make that up, I'd be in big trouble. Some nights are so slow. Would you work that many hours at that pay and maybe get a couple of dollars in tips?
@chiyosan (30199)
• Philippines
15 May 08
well i check out firt if there is a service charge... if there is already a service charged in my billings, i will give tips to the waiters/ waitresses. most of the time too i dont lieave anything, except if i feel really satisfied and happoy with the serive given.
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@saundyl (9690)
• Canada
13 May 08
I think its unfair of employers to pay less in expectation that people will tip. I tip but i know theres those out there that refuse to tip for anything.
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@carolscash (9500)
• United States
14 Jun 08
First of all, let me say that I think that waitresses deserve more than their minimum wage. However, I also think that most of them work really hard to give good service just because they know that the customer is the one who will pay them. Also, I must say that I don't know of any waitress that doesn't make more than minimum wage for the day as they always make more in tips than they would if they were paid $8.00 an hour. My daughter works in a restuarant and it is a small place that is family owned and in a small downtown area and it is nothing for her to make over $200 on Friday night in just 4 hours from her tips. People do tip and they do very well in money so don't feel sorry for them.
@sid556 (31000)
• United States
14 Jun 08
Oh my...we think alike. I wrote a discussion just exactly like this 3 weeks ago. You should tip because you want to and then only if you can afford it. I work in a convenience store and I deal with customers and it is not expected for us to get tips. My job requires just about the same as does a waitress or a bartender. I do run and do extra for the customers and I take time and treat them all special. my tips are in their kind words of appreciation. Only very occassionally will I get a monetary tip. I don't even expect it. My boss pays me and it is part of the job. My gripe lies with the employer who gets away with paying such a small raise as to make us all feel obligated to pay a tip whether the service is good or not. WE literally are paying his employees as well as paying for the service and the product.
• Malaysia
29 May 08
in my country tipping is not a part of our dining custom but service charge is imposed (10-15%) plus some 5% govt tax. so that would make it 20% just like in the US where 20% is the normal rate. except that you don't have the option to pay lower for crappy service :P i believe you should tip her extra if she treats you nicely and tip her lower if she treats you badly but not tipping at all i believe is not acceptable among the servers. at least give them 5-10%. at least she did her job
@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
28 May 08
I agree, it does not make sense. I guess the only thing I can think of is that it makes the service person try harder to do their job well in order to earn tips, but it can backfire, too, as some people, like my mother, are cheap tippers. I tip at 20% for wait staff, unless they are not good. They will be told why they earned a small tip, too, as I will leave them a note. I have worked for tips and sometimes I worked my butt off to do a good job and was stiffed. You make a valid point but unfortunately, I doubt that it will ever change.
@anonymili (3138)
28 May 08
Ok tipping people because it’s “expected” is a real bugbear with me. I don’t tip for the sake of it in restaurants. Here in the UK it is not compulsory to leave a tip in a restaurant and often I will check if a restaurant adds a “discretionary” service charge on their bill before I sit down to eat. I do not believe I should pay extra for good service. I expect the service to be good in the first place, if it is good, I will come back and spend money there again, if it’s not good, I’m not coming back, simple as. I do tip in some places where the service has been really good though but I would add that I am a very nice customer wherever I go, whether it’s a bank or clothes shop or railway station or bar or restaurant. Most of those places serve me politely and efficiently, so why should I be expected to tip the person in the restaurant just because they smiled at me or did their job properly? Everyone in the customer service industry is expected to provide good customer service. I’ve worked with varying types of customers throughout my career and didn’t expect a tip from any of them for just doing my job!
• Canada
26 May 08
I don't believe in tipping either. I think it's crazy that it's EXPECTED!!! Tipping used to be about exceptional service, now some business owners underpay their staff, because tipping is EXPECTED!!!