I disagree that abortion is murder

@Tanya8 (1734)
Canada
November 2, 2006 8:22pm CST
I don't like abortion, but I think it's hyperbole to call it murder. Who would you rather have living next door to you, a woman who had had an abortion, or a convicted murderer who had finished his/her sentence and was now free?
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31 responses
• United States
3 Nov 06
This is all I have to say to this. The person who is murdered by a murderer didn't ask to be murdered. That is why it is called murder. Why is that any different from a mother killing an unborn child?? That child was never consulted and asked to have their life ended. The woman is taking someones life how is that not murder?? There are plenty of people in this world wanting to have children of there own and can't. Then you have these women who sleep around and get pregnant by whom ever and abort it and then do it again. I am sorry this is a very touchy subject with me. I have a friend whos husband is afriad to have kids because his ex-girlfriend aborted his baby without his knowledge when she was 6 months pregnant. It is just wrong. Get on the pill or close your damn legs is my view. Rape you can't plan and I feel for those women but give it up for adoption. Everyone even babies deserve a chance.
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@KrauseHome (35293)
• United States
3 Nov 06
Agree 100%.
@KrauseHome (35293)
• United States
3 Nov 06
I meant with the First Post and comment here.
• Indonesia
3 Nov 06
Yes I'm agree. You are right. Anyway, abortion is same with to killing others.
@tammytwo (4304)
• United States
3 Nov 06
Anytime that someone takes another human life it is murder. Is abortion taking the life of another? I would say it is murder.
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• United States
3 Nov 06
So you are a murderer everytime you eat.. for you have taken the life of an animal or plant.. you have taken a life.. or condone the taking of a life.. If you do not allow the choice to be the woman involved, then you might as well take away all women's rights to anything. Would you feel different if the law was that all non-government approved pregnancies were to be terminated regardless of the impact on the mother?
• United Kingdom
4 Nov 06
I don't get this "woman's right" and "it's her body", etc. It's a child inside the woman's body so it's not JUST the woman's body and all children have two parents, what about the father's rights (well, not including rape and such) to see his child and to choose life for his child? And as for every time you eat, that is the most pathetic argument I have heard. Murder is taking the life of another human being, not animal. Animals are there for people to eat, that's why we're top of the food chain.
• United States
5 Nov 06
So you believe that the animals you kill that you might live are somehow not entitled to the right to live you grant to people.. such a sad thing.. it is what is used today to justify the aerial slaughter of the wolves in Alaska, it is what has justified the extinction of so many species.. all the while lessing our experience here .. all the while dooming us as well destroy the natural balance of nature.
@achilles7 (1277)
• India
3 Nov 06
Why doubt abortion is murder.In order to save the life of the mother if abortion needed it may.Rest in other cases it is murder.
• United States
3 Nov 06
You have picked a very touchy topic, I expect you will get a lot of replies. Personally, I am of the firm belief that it is up to the woman to decide. It is her body and her right, and in the first three months that she has to make the choice it is not yet a child. It is not developed enough to be. I also think that people who are so adamantly against it should look at the big picture. What if you were raped and were carrying that child as a constant reminder for nine months, that would certianly furhter the trauma you have already suffered. There are a lot of reasons for and against having it, in the end, it is a free country and we shouldn't be taking away something like that. I would imagine people who are so against it have never found themselves in a questionable situation, never had to actually look at the big picure through someone elses eyes, they should try it sometime. Open their eyes. I personally have been lucky enough not to find myself in such a situation but I have seen people who are. It makes you think twice. It's easy to criticize when you have no earthly idea. And as for your question, I would never want to live next door to a murderer. I know they may have changed and whatnot in prison, but it's a chance I wouldn't want to take.
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• United Kingdom
3 Nov 06
I have always been totally against abortion, I have thought about all of the reasons people would do that and I have looked at the "bigger picture" so mine is an informed view. I had 2 unplanned pregnancies (despite taking precautions) and I knew it would be a real struggle but there was never a time when I considered having an abortion. I chose not to take any of the tests for illnesses, etc. because I didn't need to know. It would have made no difference. I also know people who have had abortions, there was no reason except for they weren't ready. It shouldn't be that easy. Yes, if there are serious medical reasons, then it maybe should be considered but otherwise, as has been said before, there is always the option of adoption.
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• United States
3 Nov 06
operative phrase here.. YOU CHOSE.. do not take that choice away from someone else. What if abortions were mandatory if it was an unplanned pregnancy? Would you then say.. but I should e able to choose?
• United Kingdom
4 Nov 06
I chose not to take any tests, there was never any question of choosing to kill my own child so I don't know what you're talking about there. I had the right to choose whether to have tests to see if my children were healthy but, in my opinion, I had no right to choose whether they should live or die. My youngest was born with the unbilical chord round his neck and had to be rescussitated, of course I would have been devastated if they hadn't succeeded but I would have still given him a chance rather than knowing he could have been and wasn't because I chose that. Luckily, he was rescussitated and he's fine.
@RieRie (822)
3 Nov 06
I agree with the first answerer and at least a convicted murderer has been punished for what they did, but murder is normally a life sentence anyway and so a convicted murder isn't likely to go free. People who have abortions aren't punished and so they may do it again and again.
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• United States
3 Nov 06
...I just wanted to let you know that murderers are often "let out" - just yesterday was on the news, a guy who killed a 16 year old girl recently, burying her in a field. He had been previously convicted of killing a five year old..
• United Kingdom
4 Nov 06
But there are a lot more "serial abortionists" than there are freed murderers. I certainly think those women who use abortion as birth control over and over agin should be punished, I am sure people who have abortions for "good" reasons will be punished by guilt which in some cases might not be fair but if someone has several abortions as a birth control substitute, they aren't likely to have any conscience and would not be feeling bad about it. I don't think they should be allowed. I think if people go for abortions more than once without good reason, they should be turned down and arrangements made for the child to be taken off them as soon as it is born.
@istanto (8572)
• Indonesia
4 Nov 06
I disagree with you i think abortion is murder. killing the baby god gift for you.
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@5cakids (25)
• United States
4 Nov 06
Abortion is murder in my book, the heart starts beating at about 8 weeks, Abortionist do abortions after 8 weeks. I believe a baby is a person from time of conception.
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@pumpkinjam (5774)
• United Kingdom
3 Nov 06
While I do see your point, I still believe that abortion is murder because it is still the wilful taking of another human life, whether or not you agree that the child is developed or developing at the time, it's still a human life. I can understand some situations where people do believe that it's in the child's best interest not to allow it to live but that doesn't make it ok to do it. And, someone said before about making choices for your children all the time. Well, yes, you choose what they eat and where they go, etc. but these are all to make sure they are well cared for, you wouldn't decide to feed your kids with junk food all the time thinking it was in their best interests so why would killing a child be in the child's best interest?
@lingli_78 (12845)
• Australia
3 Nov 06
i still think abortion is a murder because it kills a small innocent life...
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@saumya69 (382)
• India
3 Nov 06
i think you r wrong... because when abortion takes place the formation of baby has already started by the time... so it is more or less like a murder....
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@KrauseHome (35293)
• United States
3 Nov 06
These are no where near the same, and I am not sure where you got this opinion from. In my Eyes, Abortion is the same as Murder, as that is denying a Child the right to live, and get to know the world around them. Sorry that you believe differently than I do, but we are all subject to our own opinions.
• United States
3 Nov 06
depends on the circumstances
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• United States
3 Nov 06
Life is pretty much an untenable situation when it comes to morality. Consider that you "murder" anything that you eat. (ok so you are not guilty of doing the deed, only supporting those that do.) Even vegans kill plants to survive.. so you have a world where no matter what choice you make, you have wronged someone else. It is just how it is. To mandate laws that coincide with your personal religious beliefs is just plain wrong. There is searation of church and state for a reason. As a non-christian I can tell you I am pretty sick and tired of Christians trying to make their rules my laws. Abortion, for any reason, should not be mandated for or against by law. As with many things, the right to choose what a woman puts her body through, her mind through, should be left entirely up to that individual woman. While I probably would never choose an abortion for myself (and am now at an age it ceases to be a decision I shall be faced with) I support whole heartedly the right for a woman to choose what happens to her. I have seen answers that imply the child should have a say. .. ok... when they find a way to communicate.. let the mom talk to the fetus. Of course I suppose you should also consult the child over all punishments while they are growin up.. (I think I should spank you.. no mom, I don't agree I think you should give me ce cream.) Mothers are responsible for making many many decisions for their children for a long time. I saw where someone thinks no one ever considers adoption.. horse hockey... adoption options are always discussed somewhere along the line, and if you run into a mandatory mortherhood fanatic they say it is your only option. There are as many reasons to end a pregnancy as there are women. No two cases are alike except perhaps superficially. If you do not trust a mother to make her own decisons, then why have you allowed her the vote? Why not just relegate women back to being property? (of course if you do, I will be the first rebel intent on overthrowing the fascist government.) It is never an easy decision to make, to carry a child to term or to terminate the pregnancy. To imply this is easy is just plain foolish and shows you have never been close to someone facing that decision. It is often a painful decision, and instead of judging the women who feel it is the best option for them, you should be understanding and caring, but most of all supportive of their right to choose.
• United Kingdom
4 Nov 06
"sick and tired of Christians trying to make their rules my law" This isn't just a Christian issue. I have never been religious at all. I know a lot of people, religious and non-religious who believe abortion is wrong in most cases. I'm sick and tired of people assuming it's only Christians who think abortion is wrong. It's a moral and ethical issue so it makes no differenc whether or not you are religious. I've never been religious, my views are based on ethics and common sense. And as for the whole war thing, the soldiers make the choice to join the army.(well I don't know about in America, how that works but here anyone who goes to war has chosen to do a job where they know they might get killed. They have a choice.
• United States
5 Nov 06
It is the Christian lobbiests (the right wing christian lobbists) who brought up the issues regarding abortion. While you may not be "religious" you have somewhere along the line adapted their "moral" view of this issue. Morals are a personal thing between you and your belief system. Ethics are the socail condition. When America goes to war, they frequently have a little thing called the draft. You do not have a choice about it, and have to work very hard to not be forced to go to war (even if your religous/moral/ethical standards say you must not kill.) To take a woman's right to choose away from her, about what happens to her body puts her back into the archaic situation where she is no more than property. I never said father's had no rights, and believe that if a father is actually willing to take responsibility then it should be a joint decision, but if one cannot be reached, the mother's choice should be the one to prevail. More and more human rights are being incrementally taken away in the US. We have ceased to be a civilized nation and are fast becoming more and more fascist. (I cite the military commissions act 2006 which has made kidnapping, torture, denial of access to courts and yes even murder legal in the United States.) The government is incrimentally destroying the rights of the people just as was done in the 1930's in Germany that allowed Hitler to take control. Any time you take any rights of choice away, you are risking the path to fascism. What gives humans more rights than animals? If it is ablility to think, speak or any of those kinds of things, then your arguement for the fetus falls apart as having rights as they do not have enough development during the time abortion is safe to conduct to be granted those rights.
• United Kingdom
5 Nov 06
So by your reckoning, if you think it's ok to kill someone then it is. It's only a matter of your own principles? You're on about all these "rights", etc. but by your own argument, you're saying it doesn't matter if you comply to laws because they've all come from some Christian view of things and that if you feel like going and stealing something or hurting someone, that's ok and you're "right" to do that has been taken away by morals and ethics.
• Mexico
6 Nov 06
I have had an abortion myself and although i never believed in it at the time it was the right decision to make. I couldnt not provide for it and it would of been selfish of me to bring a child into this world and not be able to care for it the way it needs and deserves to be care for. I feel very strongly on this subject. Do i feel bad about the abortion YES i do and believe me i still cry about it to this day. It is not an easy choice for any women to make.
• Mexico
6 Nov 06
aww thank you. It was very difficult and i am still dealing with it everyday. Its not easy
• United States
3 Nov 06
i agree with you. girls don't have abortions because they slept around. they do it because they know they won't be able to provide for that child and make it healthy and happy. so instead of running the risk of ruining both their lives she chooses to end one. not murder. it is in her body she can choose to do what she wants. next time someone wants to have an abortion let someone take the baby, it won't live with out the mom so even if she doesn't kill it it will still die. not murder.
• United States
3 Nov 06
What is wrong with adoption? and why is it never considered?
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@msqtech (15226)
• United States
7 Nov 06
the law defines it // I think it is not necessarily murder
@Bettyann (2486)
• United States
7 Nov 06
me to
@prue187 (518)
• United States
7 Nov 06
I'm a Christian, we condemn abortion but I'm not judging the women who did it and are planning to do it. They may have deeper reason not to have the child but still it's killing. Only the Lord knows what's happening and all we have to do is to pray for these women who are going through a lot of pressure and stress. I maybe a little concerned if I live next door with a convicted murderer. I will watch my back closely. I don't have the rights to choose my neighbors I wouldn't worry about that,
• India
7 Nov 06
yes even i agree with u......... it is not a murder!!!!
• United States
7 Nov 06
Neither and unfortunately some people are unlucky enough to have both.