The American Way - downwards

@p1kef1sh (45681)
June 18, 2008 3:48am CST
I have a friend that lives in the US. She is in her middle years and has recently experienced a break down in her relationship and moved out of her home. She has a job, but no real money and will shortly be living on the streets in a city that she is not a native of and has no family in. What would you do to support her assuming that you live at least 1,000 miles away, or on a different continent perhaps. You feel strongly for this person however and hate to see her going this way. You don't have the financial resources to help her yourself but you want to be a friend and not let her down. What advice might you give her.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
18 Jun 08
If she has a job, she can look in the paper for someone who needs a roommate. She can also apply for emergency housin assistance. There are plenty of options in America, as long as you have some kind of income.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jun 08
She has an income - a small one. Thank you for that information Rozie. Very useful.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
19 Jun 08
It really depends on where you are located! There are shelters, it does not usually depend on having an income, many places will help you get training and housing! But it depends on getting on the waiting list! Maybe smaller towns and cities do not have it so bad, but the major metropolitan areas have plenty of working homeless!
@mentalward (14691)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Yep, Olive has it right. If you apply for housing assistance you are going to be put on a waiting list. I had a friend many years ago who tried it, and the waiting list was 3 years long! But she could go to Social Services to see what she can qualify for right now. I'm sure she could get some kind of help. The Salvation Army helps in those types of situations as well. And churches will not usually send you away without helping you in some way. I hope this helps.
@focjop20 (232)
• Puerto Rico
18 Jun 08
There are goberment agencies and other organizations around, where she may obtain some help. She must seek help before is too late and the streets become her final days. There are always some one at the nearest Church; where she can also be helped. It's on Her to find Help.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jun 08
She could try the church. Thank you. That's very helpful.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
19 Jun 08
In California, the churches are closed during the day! Some offices are open, but many churches are broke right now! I am a resource person for my area, and I can tell you that shelters are full year-round! She may be able to get a roommate, or rent a motel room for a short while! There are many working class people living in their vehicles! If she does not have a child, then the picture is even bleaker for he finding a place to stay. I may be able to help her find a place to shower and receive mail! Otherwise there is a lottery system in place for the cots and space available! If she does not mind religion being a big part of the shelter, then she may be able to get help at one of the Rescue Missions! The singing will help her feel better and many people live there for six weeks up to three months or so.
@focjop20 (232)
• Puerto Rico
18 Jun 08
It just came spontaneous of my Head. The Lord will help better than any body else.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
19 Jun 08
It is never good when friends are in need but they are so far away. The only thing I can think of is maybe is sending her a prepaid debit card that can be refilled. But first it would be good to have a account opened so money can be deposited into it and maybe set up a site asking for donations to help this friend in need I have seen sites asking for money donations to help then in need and it worked for them not saying it will for you or your friend but maybe worth looking into.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I know how it is not to have the "extra" money. I don't know how to set up one of those sites but I do hope someone with computer sense does because with the way things are nowdays we just might see more and more people homeless or living hand to mouth and doing without alot of stuff to just try to make it a little while longer. Some people with money might care but then think someone else will do it or they don't know how to go about helping them without offending them or others finding out and instead of helping a few that need it they will have hundreds of hands out wanting something so they are afraid to start maybe. Salvation army might help some if they are located in your area also they are resources available to help out alot don't want to travel down that road of asking for handouts and all but if it is needed for survival there is no shame in it, Just somehting to help get people back on there feet till they find other means of making it.
@olivemai (4738)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Now that is a good idea! If it works, as many people do not have "extra" money, and those who do, often do not care!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
19 Jun 08
That's a good idea. I have no idea how to start one but I am sure that someone will let me know. We don't have those cards here.
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• United States
19 Jun 08
Pikey, if she is anywhere close to me, I would offer her a place to stay and some help getting her feet on the ground... Think about that when you talk to her.... Love ya.
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• United States
19 Jun 08
I mean it pike, if not me then maybe we can network her into a friends home for safety at least....
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
19 Jun 08
Thank you Angel. You truly are one. XX
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
That would be wonderful. Great idea. Thank you again Angel.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Perhaps she has friends with whom she works, p1kef1sh, that could help out somewhat. If she has a job she could try the YWCA in her area. They usually will provide housing, and if her situation is due to any type of spousal abuse there are facilities in most cities that will help. I hope these suggestions will be somewhat helpful.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
No spousal abuse, but she can try the YWCA plus others. Thank you Worldwide.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
20 Jun 08
Here is some info n the YWCA of New York: http://www.ywcaworks.org/page/12/
@olivemai (4738)
• United States
20 Jun 08
Sorry about that, it is not for New York, but for the Seattle area! Here is the main link for any state: http://www.ywca.org/site/apps/s/search.asp?c=djISI6PIKpG&b=281386 and that is the page on housing programs!
@rhettaa (213)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I would tell her to go to the yellow pages and look under charities and find a shelter that would take her in and help her get on her feet. Many of them will also help her try to find work. There are many of them in every city. She can try United Way, The Salvation Army, and local churches if she can't find the shelters listed in her phone book. Shelters vary in quality, but all of them are better than living on the street. Also, she can look into extended stay hotels. I lived in a Day's Inn once for about 4 months, twelve years ago, and it wasn't so bad.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
20 Jun 08
This was in a link from the YWCA website: "There are other options in the community for homeless people as well. Captain Jim Brown of the local Salvation Army said his agency does provide occasional assistance to people needing shelter for the night. "If someone is in a homeless situation, we try to put them in a hotel for the night, but we're only able to provide one night's lodging, so we can help as many people as we can.""
@olivemai (4738)
• United States
20 Jun 08
That was from this article called "1/24/2007 12:11:00 AM Email this article • Print this article Openings rare at local transitional housing facility BY CINDY WOOD" and it was in Ohio.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
She's in an hotel right now. But that cannot last for much longer. She is going to look at the churches etc. Many thanks for that advice.
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@snowxue (72)
• China
20 Jun 08
well, sorry for your friend, in this case, it seems there isnt much you can do to help her, since you are so far away, unless you can help her financially which sounds to be unlikely, so if you have any good idea for her to have a better job or have a part time job to help her make more money, but I think it is a good idea for her to have a roomate. Anyway, good luck to your friend.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
Thank you for your best wishes. They are much appreciated.
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
19 Jun 08
First, she needs an attorney! She has to protect herself legally. If she can't afford one, contact Legal Aid. Contact social services and see what is available in that area for newly single women who need help. Attend some kind of support group, even if it is a 12-Step program to get emotional support and referrals for various kinds of help. Get involved with a church or synagogue or whatever to get moral support and meet people. Work hard at your current job, you don't want to get fired. Work toward promotion or get a second job, or get some vocational training for a better job. Don't just sit and be overwhelmed. Take charge of you life! Remind her that millions of women have gone through the same thing. And if they can do it so can she. Remind her that you are supporting her. Help her problem-solve, maybe. Just help her keep on taking care of herself. And she has my best wishes. I've been there myself!
@olivemai (4738)
• United States
19 Jun 08
That sounds like really good advice to me! But I have to ask, does anybody have any idea how many women (and men) are currently homeless and actually sleeping on the streets? I think it may be a million at this present time, and those are only the ones who can be counted! Many people live under bridges and hide in places that would have been fine as camping grounds back when the Natives ruled!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
19 Jun 08
Thank you so much. That was very encouraging.
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@mummymo (23706)
18 Jun 08
I know this really worries you p1ke my darling and that just shows what a caring and thoughtful person you are! i have thought about this a lot and you know I think you are doing the most important thing you can by being there, being supportive and making sure she knows that there is someone there rooting for her! having said that I have been wondering if there was some way of doing a flat share with someone so that she can get on her feet and have a permanent place to live til she can afford a place on her own? It would also be companionship with her if she managed to find someone nice to share with. I wish I could be of more help sweety , I really do! xxx
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@mummymo (23706)
19 Jun 08
I wish there was something practical that you could do and that I could help you with honey! Hugs xxx
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jun 08
Thank you Mummymo. I am worried sick for her. However, I can only do so much I know. Apparently there are flat shares, bit she has to find one of course. There are also women's refuges. I shall be here for her, but it is practical help she needs right now. Thank you for your kind remarks too. XX.
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@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
18 Jun 08
I'm not so sure giving advice is the way to be supportive, however, encouragement and being there to listen can go a long way. I was 44 when my 16 year marriage went out the window, I moved to another city, where (thankfully) my oldest daughter lived. I did have some money, but no job. I found myself an apartment, budgeted (tightly) my resources that I did have and started job hunting. It was a scary feeling, but at the same time like a great weight had been lifted off and the best thing I received from my daughter and friends was that I could do this, I could make it and become a better person for it. And I did, I think the first 3 months was the hardest, but then it got better. It's scary starting over at that age, and dating........didn't even cross my mind til a little over a year later.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
19 Jun 08
If she is considered a senior or disabled, she will have a little better luck finding help and a place to stay! May God bless you for trying to help her!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jun 08
I shall always be there fore her to talk to to. That's all that I can do right now. My friend is a little older than you were. But I am heartened to see that it can be done. She has no money at all and that will prove a stumbling block in finding an apartment. I'm hoping that he family can help a little. But clearly it can be done and the answer is not to give up hope. Thank you so much.
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
20 Jun 08
I would tell her that things always happen as they should. Times may seem hard but don't give up. Always fight through the tough times. Life will end up much better than it was. She will be happier in the end. Hard times always make a person stronger!
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• United States
20 Jun 08
Awwww wish her luck. I have been there. At first, it is overwhelming but it balances out pretty quick once you start working at making life better. She will get through. Somehow we all do. :) How are you by the way??
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
Thanks Skinny. She's had hard times before I think, but this seems so overwhelming.
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@ellie333 (21016)
18 Jun 08
Firstly P1kef1sh, I am sorry to hear that someone you care about is going through such an ordeal. Have they any family even though not nearby that they could turn to for somewhere to stay even if it means moving away from the area they are in? I would continually offer my support in making them feel that someone does care as they are probably feeling quite isolated right now too. On the financial level one person would not be able to help but surely if her friends and family all chipped in a small amount, lots of small amounts adds up to a large enough amount to perhaps get an acomodation. Without knowing the details it is just so hard to comment but my thoughts are with them and I will say a prayer to help attract something good back into their life. Oh and also once accomodation has been found if furnishing is a problem Freecycle is worldwide and they will be able to get help there too. Hugs to her from me. Ellie :D
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@ellie333 (21016)
18 Jun 08
I hope so too. Ellie :D
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jun 08
She was going to talk to her family yesterday. I don't know what the outcome was. I hope that it is positive. But she has no one in the same State as her even. I hope that she will find something through her employers who are a large, nationwide organisation.
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@DonnaLawson (4032)
• United States
18 Jun 08
She might be able to get help from some of the churches in her town, they usually have some type of social services network and might be of some help to her.. I am not sure if there are Salvation Armies in all of the states, but they might be able to help her or send her to someone who can help.. Good Luck to her and hope she finds some form of help to get her back on her feet..
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
19 Jun 08
The Salvation Army has some shelters where you can stay for up to three weeks! It can be enough to help you save money, if she makes enough!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jun 08
The churches and the Salvation Army is a great idea. I am sure that they might be able to advise her or help even. Thank you for that very useful help.
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@fwangaa (3057)
• China
19 Jun 08
is her illed,i think is her illed,the first she must have a good environment to live. If not,she will iller and iller. if someone in disaster. she must be weak one. so the first we must help her.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
19 Jun 08
IS she ill? Or disabled? That can get her a foot in the door! Maybe, possibly but not probably, sooner rather than never!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
19 Jun 08
That's my fear. Thank you and welcome to myLot.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
19 Jun 08
I would tell her to go to Social Services and see if they can help. They will find a place for her to stay, and she will have to live in a shelter. You cannot do much for her. She should also get a lawyer pro bono who will make sure that her ex husband (I assume he is the one she broke up with) and her will divide the property legally. If she is living without benefit of marriage, I cannot help you there.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
Social services sounds like a good idea. Thank you Suspenseful.
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@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
19 Jun 08
wow..I am sorry about your friend p1kef1sh...I hope she has some friends there and try to asked if they can accommodate her and she will just pay a rent, then she can look for a second job to help her save some money at the same time, let her mind very occupied so she will not time to self-pity or be depressed with what is happening to her.. I know she will be able to overcome this, she just need people to talk to her, comfort her and at the same time, she has to trust God, whatever her religion is, that everything she is experiencing are just trials to make her more tough!
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
She is not given to self pity, but this is a very trying time. I have great faith that things will come right for her.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
19 Jun 08
There any number of programs to which she can turn for assistance, depending and her individual situation. Most cities have food banks where low income individuals can get food. There are low-income housing communities in most cities as well, where rent is based on your income. She might also want to look into getting another part-time job to supplement her income.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
I think that she needs to be established with somewhere to live Once there, she can start to think about increasing her income etc. Thank you for your advice about the housing communities. I hadn't heard of those before. Bless you and thank you again.
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@fifileigh (3615)
• United States
19 Jun 08
invite her to your house and try to help her get a job, by providing her with free boarding and food, while maybe she can help around the house so she doesnt become a freeloader and use you as you try to help her find work. or talk to your religious congregation; maybe they can help her from continuing her downhill path... how about the ymca or a homeless shelter...maybe someone there can help her do something with her life and get work until she is able to take care of herself on her own.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
I would but I live in Europe and she is in the US. If she lived here I would have gone and fetched her by now. But there are some good pointers here. Thank you.
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• India
19 Jun 08
When you have soft corner for her,donot behave so harshly,try to convince her and help her if you can.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
Thank you Chinnu.
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@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
20 Jun 08
i can only give her moral support. being alone and not able to have a family you can run to and a place to stay will be very difficult. maybe i can advice her to look for a cheap apartment where she can live a normal life at least she has a job. it will be very hard for her but trough perseverance and self reliance i know she can make it. life is full of challenges we just have to keep on fighting till we can cope up with all that comes in our life. i hope she stays safe and survive this trial in her life.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Jun 08
I pray that she stays safe, I really do. Thank you for that help Sweetie.
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