Obama and universal health prromise???

United States
July 1, 2008 6:19pm CST
Obama is all for universal health. I totally agree we need what France and England has. Would you pay more in taxes if you could get free medical and dental??? The only reason it hasn't happened is because insurance companies would go out of business because we wouldn't need them anymore. would you like to get free medical in the U.S. at the price of higher taxes?
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@peavey (16332)
• United States
2 Jul 08
It's kind of an oxymoron to say "if we pay more in taxes, we get free medical and dental..." There's nothing free about a national health care plan. With the price of everything going up and up - gas, groceries and so on - there are those who would go bankrupt with a higher tax burden. If anyone really wants to help American citizens, they'd be more concerned about returning jobs to our nation, cutting taxes we have to pay, stopping those who are not citizens from draining our welfare system dry.
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@jashley1 (746)
• United States
2 Jul 08
I totally agree Peavey! Nothing is truly "free" anymore! Yesterday I heard that Cameron Diaz is the highest paid female actress earning $50 million last year - I wonder what her tax bracket is! They really need to raise taxes from about $500k & up. She should be paying out like some 60% in taxes. It's really ridiculous and not fair. America is so vain.
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@peavey (16332)
• United States
2 Jul 08
It really is ridiculous, I agree.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
2 Jul 08
Well said, Peavey!!! 'Free' health care at the expense of higher taxation. Now, how is that free??? It's simply amazing what some people can pass off as logic!
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@jashley1 (746)
• United States
1 Jul 08
I have to say I don't agree with this at all. On the outside it sounds great - however, in the long run it would mean horrible health care, long waiting periods, poor satisfaction, crowded rooms, ER's, tired nurses & doctors, and only those of extremely high wealth would be able to receive good care. I have a friend who is from a country with this plan and she said it was horrible - you don't get to have major surgery quickly if you need it - you have to wait for months before you can have it done. The care is horrible - everyone diagnosing your child with the same health conditions as every other child - no intimacy. I would rather pay more for better care then get horrible care for free.
• United States
4 Jul 08
Hey there, Did you see the documentary by Michael Moore called Sicko? You should really watch it. A lot of this, "horrible service", "long waiting periods" etc. etc, is all propaganda put out by insurance companies to put Americans off from getting it. The movie is so sad but none of that is true in Canada, England or France, many people had fantastic things to say about it. Check it out! Ryan
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@trish32 (1471)
• United States
3 Jul 08
What many people don't know about the universal health plans of other countries is that the wait for much needed medical attention can sometimes be many months long. While the idea may sound great, it falls short, in my opinion. And give our country's track record with Medicare I wouldn't trust the government to be in charge of my medical services. My youngest son has a serious congenital heart defect and I would be absolutely terrified to have to rely on the government for his medical needs. And the idea that our taxes would be raised to supposedly fund such a program is laughable. How many times have our taxes been raised with the promise of better "this" or "that" and it never came to fruition? I think I'll pass on universal healthcare. I'll take the money they would tax me and pay my insurance premiums for private insurance.
@grammasnook (1877)
• United States
1 Jul 08
In Mass it is mandatory to have health insurance, if your work does not offer it the state does. Lots of people only have to pay like 20 a month. This really bited because my employer offers it I have to take theres it is costing me 400.00 a month and can you believe it my co payments are higher than someone paying 20.00 a month. I think this is unfair but hey as long as I dont have to pay the full bill, and my family is covered that is all that matters at this point.
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@coolseeds (3921)
• United States
3 Jul 08
Obama is blowing smoke to try to win an election. This isn't my 1st election. How many presidents have promised the world only to rob from the people. I think health care should be free. However it isn't. There are a lot of people in the US who do not work but free health care. The reason why? Because people like me work and pay taxes. Personally I think the working people who contribute to society should get free health care before those that do not contribute to society. However I don't think free health care would work in America. People would not work and go get a doctor's excuse. I think it would be a mess.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
3 Jul 08
Hello Littlerayray, Before you begin calling for the adaptation of the socialized systems of our friends across the pond, you might want to research the impact of those socialized systems on their respective economies! This is an overview of the UK, though, the last time I checked, France's overview was similarly dismal! [i]"Unemployment Rate increases..." "The trend in the employment rate is increasing (Uh, is that a contradiction to the tagline or what? And, this is not the only glaring contradiction!).... but earnings growth including bonuses has fallen..." Uh gee, might that have something to do with the high rates of taxation?[/i] http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=12 Moreover, the recent news of Brown's subsidized employment policies are dismal, at best! According to the last report I checked, the cost of that subsidized labor program is enormous -- yet the results are catastrophic. The Brittish state is subsidizing young people to get on the payroll, including health benefits, yet they're falling off the payroll in shockingly high rates. No nation can sustain that level of unwillingness to work! And, the more people believe they are entitled to health care, a paycheck, government subsidies, etc... the more the outlook diminishes. For example: [i]"In Britain, levels of migration are the highest in history due to rapid migration from the new Eastern European EU member states. There are also increasing numbers of Britains emigrating. This ‘churn’ is unique to the UK." "... public services under pressure, with an assumption that the VCS will fill the gaps."[/i] http://www.3s4.org.uk/drivers/britishness-and-citizenship When honest, hard-working taxpayers are subjected to the pains of propping up others, they are less likely to subject themselves to that kind of punitive penalization. Meaning that the most productive will move to greener pastures! It's simple Human Behavior, Littlerayray! Nobody wants to work their fanny off, while someone, on the 'doll', is watching CNN -- or worse!
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• United States
10 Nov 08
I disagree. Have you closely looked at the healthcare plans England has? People are paying on average 40-50% in taxes. Almost half of their income goes straight to taxes to support sub-standard care. Doctors offices are only open half of the month due to the money running out. Surgery schedules are done the same way. Emergent cases are done through the month, but non-emergent cases such as elective c-sections and other non-emergent surgeries are done within the first week of the month. After that, the money is gone and you'll be lucky to find one doctor what will give you an Advill for a headache, let alone examine you. I don't want a UHC for America. We've got too many lazy b*stards on welfare and on public aid right now. I have insurance through my job. My DH has insurance for him and our DD through his job. I pay money for mine as does my DH. I do not want to pay for your healthcare or anyone else's healthcare, but if 0bamanation gets his way, expect your taxes to shoot up to nearly 50% to pay for it. If you bring home $2000 a month right now, expect that take home salary to drop by half. So now after 0bamanation gets his way, it'll be $1000 a month for the same 40 hour work week as before. I know I can't live on half of what I bring home and still expect to pay rent and buy food for my family. But that's the shocking reality that is about to happen come January when 0bamanation is in office.