legalized murder

July 20, 2008 8:14pm CST
Well, I bet that subject line caught your attention. I'd like to know what people out there think about the subject of abortion. Are you pro-choice or pro-life?? I'm just going to state my opinion straight out and simple, I think that abortion in any form, and at any stage of pregnancy is legalized murder, under any circumstance. Since when is it someone else's right to say whether or not someone can live or die, I believe that should be Gods decision, and we're playing with some serious fire if we begin to make these life altering and/or life ending decisions by ourselves. What do you think?
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@Wolfechu (1193)
• United States
21 Jul 08
I'm pro-choice, in that I think it's no business of mine to dictate what people can or can't do to their own bodies. I'm also not overly keen on the idea of the return to backstreet abortion clinics with no standards of hygeine or practice if it ever did become illegal. I leave god out of the abortion equation entirely. I'm thoroughly convinced he doesn't exist in the first place, so if I turn out to be wrong, my stance on abortion is going to be the least of his issues with me.
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21 Jul 08
I think that this is a co-out, and really saying that it's ok to murder, and putting the responsability for our choices on God, when really He gave us free will, and wants us to freely choose what the right thing is to do, He's compassionate, and not some big bully like you've been told, and then made your decision that He's not there. What do you believe is there? I mean that honestly, I'm not being vindictive, I really would like to know.
@Wolfechu (1193)
• United States
21 Jul 08
What do I believe is there? Well, where's 'there', for one thing? The universe? Something outside? Heaven, Hell, Ipswich? I really don't believe in God; it's not solely down to the Christian Mythos, but instead a universe around us which doesn't require a God to exist; he's not only not there, he doesn't need to be there. I suppose that answers that one, too; I don't think there's anything 'there' instead. There doesn't need to be something to fill that god-shaped. There's not even a hole. Consider this, though: You've come to the conclusion that any form of murder is wrong because God says so; I've come to my own morality through personal experience. Who's more moral, the person who takes responsibility for his viewpoints, or the one who has to be told what's right and wrong?
21 Jul 08
I believe that everyone has accountability for themselves, and that everyone is responsible for there own choices. If in this case in which you think that we shouldn't be telling women what to do with their bodies, then using your logic, is it ok for someone just to randomly come up to you and shoot you in the middle of a crowded room???? How can all that's in this world simply exist from nothing???
• United States
21 Jul 08
I am pro-choice. I know women who have had abortions, and I knew their reasons why. I myself considered abortion if I was pregnant by the man who raped me. Most of the women that I met and talk to that had abortions were young teens or were raped when they had the abortion and I can see where they are coming from. I am Agnostic, so religion and God are of no issue to me. I live by the rules of humanity, not by the rules of a higher being that may or may not exist. I believe that if a women is pregnant, and she did not want to get pregnant, then she should not have to pay the price for it. You know how much it cost to take care of a child these days. There are some women who are just not economically stable enough to take care of a child. There are some women who are not healthy enough to take care of a child, you are going to tell me that these women who are unhealthy should have to carry and unhealthy child to full-term, a child that could very well die anyway. What about stem-cell research? Thanks to legalized abortions we are able to have stem-cell research. With stem-cell research we a able to prolong the lives of so many people who are deserving of living a long life. Whatever happen to quality verses quantity of life? I think that a quality of a person's life far surpasses that of the producing more humans that may or may not be that healthy. I see abortion more as a positive than a negative.
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21 Jul 08
Using your reasoning it should be ok for women to just sleep around and not deal with any of the consequences. I think that quality of life will continue to be what it is, and will only advance with further technological research, there are ways to harvest stem cells without killing an innocent human being. Would you like to have your limbs ripped off of your body, and then have your brains sucked out through a tube, I don't think that quality of life is very great.
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
21 Jul 08
I lean on the side of pro-choice. I would have never had an abortion myself and while I think there are better options, being against abortion is not going to stop it. In fact, nothing is going to stop it. Legal, illegal, clinic or back alley, abortions have been taking place for centuries and they will continue to happen.
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• India
21 Jul 08
abortion is not murder if you take that step to protect the honour of your family
21 Jul 08
That is a cop-out so that people don't have to live up to their mistakes, it's like saying that what people think of you is more important than human life, which is total bs.
• United States
21 Jul 08
I am pro-choice to a point. I believe i have no right to tell a person what to do with the bodies and why bring a child into an over populated world if the mother has no means to take care of the child. Yes there is adoption but not every child gets adopted. Personally i could never have an abortion even if i knew i could not take care of the child i know members of my family would help me out. Now partial birth abortions i am totally against.
• United States
21 Jul 08
I did a lot of research for a paper i did when i was in college and i was outraged on what they did and wonder who in there right mind think that this practice is okay.
• United States
21 Jul 08
I know what you mean, pheonixstar. When I did training for a pregnancy alternatives center that was anti-abortion, the pictures I saw made me literally ill. Perfectly formed babies aborted just days before the due date, etc. That is cruel and inhumane and totally beyond uncalled for. My only consolation is my belief that these innocent souls are in heaven with God.
• United States
21 Jul 08
Wow! You like to start off with a bang, don't ya! lol I will say that I totally agree with you. However, what I think is really really sad is that our society leads people to believe that it is not a "baby" but just a "fetus" or a "blob of tissue" and not that it's a tiny little baby, perfectly formed usually before a woman even knows she is pregnant. There is no other surgery they would allow a minor to have without parental permission, but they perform millions of abortions every year on minors without any parent even knowing. It IS surgery and thus should require the same policy as any other surgery. I once took a class to volunteer at a Pregnancy Alternatives Clinic that offered non-abortion alternatives. What I learned about abortion is a horrific sight that will never leave me. So, although I am absolutely against it, I do not condemn those who have had one because I know that they have been totally misinformed. And, it is not my place to judge. Had I been caught in an unwanted pregnancy as a teenager, I might have done the same thing because I didn't know then what I know now. God bless!
@gncd68 (18)
• United States
21 Jul 08
I agree, I think abortion is completely wrong, it is murder, let me ask anyone out there this, If it is just tissue, how does it ever form into life? If there is a problem with the baby, normally nature takes it course and the woman has a miscarriage. If I am sounding like I am judgemental, I don't mean to sound that way. But there are many women out there who say, it's my right, it's my body, well GOD gave you that body, God gave women the most powerful gift in the world, we bring life into the world, something a man can't do (no offense to all the guys out there)and i bet wouldn't want to do. And some women talk as if aborting a baby is, well it's just their right, well you wouldn't have any choices like that if your mother would have decided to abort you. All those innocent little souls never even given a chance to take their first breath of air, never a chance to maybe grow up and be the next president or whatever. I do know that for some women who make this decision it's a heart wrenching decision, but I feel there is an option-adoption, there are many women who can't have children and would love to be a mother. Gods Blessings to all
@gncd68 (18)
• United States
21 Jul 08
I am totally against abortion, but as renitaperrone says, I don't judge women who have done it. The only thing I can say is, there are people out there who say it's only tissue, well if it's ONLY tissue, it wouldn't turn into life. Nature has it's way of taking it's course when it comes to a problem with the baby-miscarriages. I wonder if all the women that have had abortions and say "It's my right, it's my body", well they wouldn't be here to give their opinion if their mothers had aborted them, thinking the same thing "it's my right, my body" Women need to realize that when a baby is conceived it is life, it has rights, just because it's not here in this world yet and can't completely communicate it doesn't mean that the fetus doesn't have rights. I believe there are women and young girls who really feel they don't have any options and maybe got pregnant under bad circumstances, but there is adoption and there are so many married couples who can't have children and would love to adopt one. I just know that my children are my world and I know they are a gift from God and am so glad I was never put in a circumstance where I had to make the tough decision, but If I had been I would hope I would opt for adoption. Gods Blessings to any girl or woman who has had to make that decision.
21 Jul 08
this is a discussion that comes up time and time again!!! My problem is with the people using it almost like a contraception-it isn't. I'd rather the baby was aborted than born to parents who don't want it, would you want to see a child being abused in some form because the mother had to have it. putting the baby up for adoption would be a good answer and if that was the answer to the problem maybe there would be no abortions and no abused kids??!!
@tessah (6617)
• United States
21 Jul 08
i think its a personal decision one way or the other really. i myself couldnt abort my own child regardless of the circumstances of their conception. the only way i would consider it, would be if my life were threatoned by not doing it.. and only because i have two children that need their mommy.
• United States
21 Jul 08
I agree that in the case of the life of the mother being at risk should be an exception for the very reason you stated - other kids depending on you! I don't know what I'd do if that happened. But since I'm done having kids, I don't think that will be a concern for me. I'd sure hate to ever have to make that choice though.
@fiona08 (454)
• United States
21 Jul 08
I am glad that you said "Pro-Choice" and not "Pro-Abortion." I am definitely pro-choice. Although I can't imagine a circumstance in which I would abort my own baby, I do not feel it is my right to make that decision for anyone else. It is completely personal, and when we are dealing with a woman's body, we are unjust in trying to tell her what she must do. You can't really bring God into it either, because people don't all believe the same things, when it comes to religion. There are so many extreme circumstances, such as the health of the mother, and the health of the baby, and rape, and incest, that I don't think anyone can dictate to another, what she must do. Also, I doubt very much you would actually find someone who is "pro-abortion", which people often say. There aren't people out there who love abortion, and hope people get them. I am sure we are all in agreement that abortion is not a happy, or good thing. Pro-choice is the appropriate term, we support people making their own choice.
21 Jul 08
It's nice to support people making their own choices and all, but I'm sure if we informed the people making the "decision" to end someones life that isn't there own, then maybe they'd reconsider, and I only bring God into this because He is the giver of life, and that is what I believe.
@rhane7315 (5649)
• Philippines
23 Jul 08
i totally agree with that. if they don't want the child then they should let it live and if they don't want to take care of it then they should just leave it on one of their relatives or to other people who's wanting to have a baby but can't make their own baby
@lyzabelle (1668)
• Philippines
21 Jul 08
[i]Abortion is illegal and always will be in our country. It's another form of killing. Any unborn child has the right to see the world. It's our duty to make that happen. We have no right to suppressed it by doing abortion. [/i] [i][/i]
• China
21 Jul 08
I think abortion should be limited and the one who wants to have an abortion should be qualified by authority department.
• Philippines
22 Jul 08
Life is the most precious gift that God made and he used us as tool to immortalized this gifts. So I firmly disagree with abortion. Some people should just be more responsible with their actions.
@underkcat (132)
• Philippines
21 Jul 08
pro-life!
@laglen (19759)
• United States
21 Jul 08
I agree with you. I think with all of the options today and medical advancement, it is not necessary. Adoption is a beautiful choice!
@dmcollie (217)
• United States
21 Jul 08
when sperm meets the egg at that moment there is life. It doesnt mater how or when they got pregnant. It is murder plain and simple. There are other choices out there. I do not believe in abortion.
@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
21 Jul 08
On the first place abortion is killing therefor, it is murder and cant legalized lol. Abortion is not only violates common law but also it violates devine law. In our country government did not legalize abortion.