should people have the right to refuse to serve alcohol to pregnant women?

United States
July 27, 2008 2:36am CST
i forgot who was telling me that they were talking to a coworker that used to work at a bar and a VERY pregnant women came in and started ordering drinks.. not one but SEVERAL!! all for her.. she bartender asked her boss if she had the right to refuse to serve her since she was obviously pregnant and studies show that it would/could harm the fetus but he said that they dont have the right and could be sued for descrimination!! i find this insane!! what do you guys think?? she was forced to serve her or else be fired and like i said this women bought several drinks for her self just one after another
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@reckon21 (3487)
• Philippines
27 Jul 08
Where is that pregnant woman I will give her a beating of one or two. Just kidding. The bartender is concern of the health of the fetus. How could the mother has no concern at all? She is heartless. She is not deserving to be a mother.
• United States
27 Jul 08
another thing i hate is when some one chain smokes during their pregnancy.. and some people just come out and say its because they want a small baby so its easier giving birth which blows my mind!!
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@geetnx (51)
• Kuwait
22 Nov 08
if any one wants to have a small baby so they can deliver easily they should watch what they are eating, not with smoking because it can cause defects to the child.
@mayka123 (9549)
• India
27 Jul 08
There is no law anywhere that says that a pregnant woman should not be served alchohol. I too wish there was such a law. I think the boss was right in what he said.
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• United States
27 Jul 08
yeah i can see legally where it would have to be done which is why i wish there was a law.. i just hope the baby is ok.. but if she was so far along that she showing isnt that worse to drink then than earlier on??
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@liquorice (3902)
28 Jul 08
I'm no expert, but I would think that it's probably more dangerous to drink earlier on as that's when the baby's doing most of its development, and is also most at risk of not surviving. I might be wrong in this, (and please correct me if I'm wrong), but it just seems logical to me. I'm not condoning drinking when pregnant, it just seems like the risk of doing it would be less the further on you are.
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@Vladilyich1 (1456)
• Canada
27 Jul 08
They definitely should have the right, the same as refusing to serve an obviously intoxicated person. There are some times when people have to be protected from themselves.
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• Canada
27 Jul 08
I'm with you on this one.
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• United States
27 Jul 08
true.. if they can shelter the drunk from drinking more because its for their own good then they should be able to do the same for the baby
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• China
28 Jul 08
Obviously, this is a question between law and moral.Actually,everywhre can we encounter such kind of things, which are justice in moral but are not sustained by an existing law.In my opinion.since there is no such a law and pregnant women are adults with complete rights to deal with their own businesses, therefore,batenders dont have this right and I think the way out is to promulgate a law to forbid pregnant women to drink and smoke.
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• United States
29 Jul 08
yeah the problem is the law.. or lack of
@tessah (6638)
• United States
28 Jul 08
most of the places ive ever been in, there is a very visible easy to read sign that reads "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason" no way to sue for descrimination on that one.. ..;nods;..
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• United States
6 Aug 08
i used to see those signs everywhere but i havent as much lately
• United States
28 Jul 08
I also think they should have the right. What a touchy subject!
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• United States
28 Jul 08
its like you cant win in a way
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@patms1 (526)
• United States
28 Jul 08
No, they have no right to refuse to serve a woman a drink because she pregnant. Yes, drinking can be harmful to a baby but that is a decision the mother has to make. In today's world here in America we are losing our right's every day and the scary thing is we just except it. If she wishes to drink it's her choice.
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• United States
28 Jul 08
Ummm, unless I've been living in the closet for far to long, a business no matter what type it is, it is well within it's rights to refuse service to anyone or anything for whatever reason they see fit. And although a silly reason, the bartender could have very well refused service to the woman, just for not liking her. To me it sounds as if the owner of the bar was only thinking of the money the woman would bring in for purchasing as many drinks as she did. Yes, a lawsuit may have arisen out of it, but the business would be protected under their right to refuse service to anyone, and the woman would not have won. Anyone with half a brain in their skull would have refused service to this woman, but than again money talks, and talks loudly unfortunately. I feel sorry for that baby she is carrying.
• United States
29 Jul 08
i always thought both.. i thought as a bar they could refuse but i think as a business there could be a problem
• United States
30 Jul 08
Not necessarily, the only problem that I could see arising from a situation like this is the woman trying to sue them over being refused service in their establishment. Now not saying that I know the rules and regulations of any bar establishment, since I don't drink, but as a business owner myself I could very well send someone out of my store, just for getting a bad vibe from them. I haven't refused service to anyone as of yet and hope I never have to, but I do feel pretty comfortable that the law would be on my side if I did happen to refuse service to someone.
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@twoey68 (13662)
• United States
21 Nov 08
I have a friend that did the same thing. She likes to drink and she likes to have kids...the two don't always go together. I've gotten onto her several times while she was pregnant about drinking and after I get on her she finally agrees not to drink anymore while she's pregnant. I've tried to get her to stop smoking as well while she's pregnant but she won't listen. I know it's her body, her baby and her choice but to me the baby should have a choice as well and since it can't very well stand up for itself...someone has to. If she gets mad at me, oh well, she'll get over it. [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG AND TRUST IN GOD**[/b]
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• United States
22 Nov 08
its insane that people dont think more about it when they are doing it.. if i was pregnant i think i would be paranoid about everything i did to where i wouldnt do much of anything in fear it might harm the baby somehow
@ronaldinu (12454)
• Malta
21 Sep 08
The bar owner does not has a conscience and moral values. What if it was his own sister or wife? Would he let her drink? He is just irresponsible. I would prefer to be fired than work for such a person. I think your co-worker was right for not serving her drinks. I would not do something against my conscience no matter what he consequences are.
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• United States
27 Sep 08
i couldnt do it that is for sure
• United States
31 Jul 08
I can see both sides.The bar tender wants to insure that the unborn baby is not being harmed. And I can see where a grown adult would take offense to anyone telling her what to do and not to do with her baby.I guess the best the bartender could do is stop her after the 4th or 5th drink, like she would with anyone else getting drunk at the bar.
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• United States
6 Aug 08
i guess so
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
30 Jul 08
You know I never thought about anything like this. I just always assumed that people tried their best to do right by their children and if they were going to do something as stupid as that, they would do it at home. I think that anyone who sees a mother drinking while pregnant should have the right to call the police and have that mother arrested and put in a facility where the mother can be monitored until the baby is born. Then after the baby is born, it should be taken away immediately and the mother should then be arrested for child abuse. Although, I realize that this is probably only wishful thinking, I really think it is a good idea.
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• United States
6 Aug 08
yeah prob wishful thinking but maybe some day it will happen
• United States
29 Jul 08
I think one should be able to refuse. It's not just the pregnant woman's life we are talking about here, but an unborn baby that cannot speak for itself. Besides the fact that, in the US, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if something happened to the baby and she came back and sued the establishment for providing the beverages that caused the harm to the baby. Granted, I'm sure this woman would have either moved on to another bar or bought her own somewhere else, but at least I would want to know I didn't do anything to cause a problem with the innocent baby.
• United States
6 Aug 08
yeah keep your conscious clear at the very least
• Australia
28 Jul 08
I would refuse to serve her. I would serve her one drink, but i wouldn't serve her anymore than that and i would probably humiliate her if she wanted to carry on about it. I think drinking when you are pregnant is so cruel and would simply tell her to move onto another pub or drink at home if she wants to risk her childs life. I'm sure you would be well within your rights to do so. It is a liability having a heavily pregnant woman consume alot of aclohol on your premises. If she miscarried or went into labour and their were somplications it would probably be able to be turned on you for serving her anyway.
@ANTIQUELADY (36492)
• United States
28 Jul 08
she didn't have good sense to start with. i admire your friend for caring enough to ask, i thought they could refuse service to anyone anywhere if they thought they needed to.
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@bieke81 (1069)
• Belgium
28 Jul 08
It's insane, but it's the truth. You can't forbid anyone to have a drink (or several, for that matter). That's one of the reason why I never would want to work in a bar. I would not want to life knowing I put the life of an innocent child in danger. have a nice day
• United States
29 Jul 08
neither could i
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@Adelida2233 (1008)
• United States
28 Jul 08
While the mother in this situation should clearly be thinking of her baby, that's not always the case. To answer your question though, the bartender and the restaurant has the right to refuse service to anyone at any time without fear of a discrimination suit.
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• United States
28 Jul 08
but since her boss felt that she should she could have lost her job which at least would have gone to a worthy cause
@crazed_moma (1054)
• United States
27 Jul 08
I thought a bar could reserve the right to refuse service to any one.... I can see not being able to say no in a store (it could be for some one else, ie husband/roommate) who just can't seem to make it but if she's right there drinking them I don't see where the question is.... Did the bar tender at least weaken the drinks as much as possible?
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• United States
27 Jul 08
didnt weaken and she drank them right there
@di1159 (1580)
• United States
27 Jul 08
I think in this day and age they should have the right. If the baby is born with a birth defect, I'm sure the mother will end up suing the bar and it will become a national debate. Just because she wants to do something stupid doesn't mean anyone else should be forced to participate. Just like if someone is very intoxicated, the bartender can refuse service, if they suspect you are underage you can refuse service, so why not allow refusal for obviously pregnant women?
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• United States
27 Jul 08
heck if i know
@bea2008 (73)
• Philippines
27 Jul 08
I think this must be done, but the problem is how will you know if the woman is pregnant aside from her big tummy???
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• United States
27 Jul 08
tummy was all they went on