that"s it!!!!!!!!

Canada
July 29, 2008 7:17am CST
No More Dairy Products for my boy!!! For those of you who don't know my boy has Autism and I have been working on modifying his diet to see if it makes any difference.... Well, a long time ago I took out most fruits and believe m,e that did help some with behavior as well as BM"S but still could use some improvement! He seems to have this fascination in eating cereal...He would live on it if I let him! LOL On Monday he had two bowls for breakfast and then two more in the afternoon along with a couple cups of chocolate milk during the day and then it took over two hours to get him settled down to bed that night! I was ready to run away!!!! He also had three very messy (not diarrhea though) BMs on Monday! Never again I went out the next day (Yesterday) and bought Rice Milk for him...He will have that from now on! So to make this a discussion..... Is your child on any special diet? Have you ever tried to modify a diet or kept a food journal in order to figure out which foods are causing the problem(s)? What were your conclusions? ~Heavens~
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@dhalev78 (104)
• Philippines
30 Jul 08
yes my child is on a special diet, a few months ago my baby has suffered from a so called "KAWASAKI" disease. it's a children's illness that leading causes of acquired heart disease in children. after curing him, we had to monitor his heart for a year, so he has to undergo on a diet, no too much milk etc... for a baby like him (His 2YR Old Now), it's so hard to explain that he only needs to have minimal amount of milk each day, though i'm not in his side because my sister is taking care of him (i'm working abroad), i believe that it's hard too decide what kind of food are you going to give for a child that has undergone illnesses. until now his still having a diet of taking cereal, congee, noodles and food that has less oils. i believe that you have to have a patience to supervise your child in respect of food since food is very essential to everybody's life.
• Canada
30 Jul 08
So true dhalev! Food and proper nutrition is the sustainment of life and crucial for growth. We need to find out the best way to feed our children so that they can grow up strong and healthy! Thanks so much and Welcome to My Lot! I hope that you enjoy it here! ~Heavens~
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@minnie_98214 (10574)
• United States
29 Jul 08
Ewww thats gotta suck. My son Hunter wont eat many things and milk is one of them so i dont know if hed have that problem. With Autism and a sensory disorder it can be a pain in the butt at mel time for sure. He wont eat fruits or veggies either thankfully he will eat vitamins now since they have them in gummy form.
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• Canada
30 Jul 08
My boy loves fruit and most veggies as well (Thankfully) but it is hard to get him to eat meat! I am thankful that my boy takes vitamins as I do not want the gummy ones...He would think they were candy and if he ever got into them....Well, I just want to stay away from them if I can! Glad though that your boy at least gets his vitamin that way! :) I still allow fruitm, I just monitor it and have taken some certain fruits away.... Does Hunter take DHA (Cod Liver Oil) that really makes a difference in my son's speech patterns! ~Heavens~
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• United States
31 Jul 08
I cant get him to take any meds or vitamins unless they come in gummy form. I gave him cough meds once and caught him sticking his finger down his throat till it came up and hes only 7 years old. Its not fun when hes sick lol. So if they come out with gummy cod oil ill try it.
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• Canada
31 Jul 08
The cod liver oil I use is in capsule form and they are actually very fragile...I wonder would he take those? You could also try the liquid form of it but I don't think it tastes the greatest...The capsules I give have a strawberry flavor to them I believe! It is hard, I know, when they will not take meds! It still sometimes takes both my Hubby and I to medicate our son when he is sick...We use a medicine syringe like you would use for a baby still to give cough or cold medicine etc. ~Heavens~
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@Foxxee (3653)
• United States
31 Jul 08
my son is also Autistic and we have tried many different things, but he refuses and I mean refuses to even try new things. He eats chicken fingers and p&j sandwiches only. he wont eat any kind of fruit or veggies and I have tried to trick him, but no... so it's a battle with us... I did notice that if he has more then one glass of milk, he has a hard time with his BMS and will be severely constipated. That might sound odd, but I have really been paying attention and it only happens if he has to much milk and usually he can only handle about 8oz maybe 12oz of milk a day. I tried balancing the milk out with water but he refuses water, so now he will drink the flavored water by propel and to be honest, he is doing 80% better. So I think its milk that is throwing things off for my son.... I might try the rice milk like you...:)
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• Canada
31 Jul 08
Wow! Constipated and it works on my boy the opposite way! All of our children are sooooo different and yet have so many similarities! My boys main diet is Chicken fingers and french fries, Kraft Dinner, Hot Dogs, and pizza! He does love fruit and will eat some veggies and so I count myself lucky and feel bad when I have to limit some fruit and remove others all together from his diet because he loves it but it is not good for him if you know what I mean! Who wants a sore bum!? We are working on Toileting as well and he is still in diapers so I have to get these BM's under control! As a consolation, my boy will not drink water either! A concern is the calcium for his growing bones and teeth and so I made sure that the carton of Rice Milk said Calcium enriched! Soy is another option but from all the reading I have done I felt it best to try the Rice first! Best of Luck with your son also! Thanks also for standing in my corner here! We have to stick together because parenting itself is challenging let alone the added factor of autism! HUGS ~Heavens~
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• Canada
1 Aug 08
Just want to add here, that unfortunately, as with many things in life, 'people' think they're experts on a certain topic, health problem, etc., etc., when they have no real experience with whatever is being discussed. It's okay to offer an opinion, or try to give helpful advice, but these are just opinions when the 'people' have no hands on experience in the matter.
@ruby222 (4848)
30 Jul 08
My son in law has an allergy to dairy products,and he buys soya milk and eats only certain brands of butter or margarine,he starts to develop somthing that is like a bad case of hay fever if he eats anything rich in dairy products.He has been like it for many years,I hope this has helped you autistic son ,the diet change,it is amazing how a change of food can work.
• Canada
30 Jul 08
Thanks ruby I am working on it and I hope it does help him! :) ~Heavens~
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@kwenge (2493)
• Kenya
30 Jul 08
Hi Heavens, I dont think I qualify to respond to this discussion because I dont have kids yet. But i have felt what you are saying. My sister has her son on diets and she cannot figure out which food is causing problems to her 1 and half year old son..........As soon as she started weaning him the problems began.....BMs every now and then.........the boy eats almist everything and some times he sneaks and eats food not meant for him. He like bananas and oranges alot and you cannot deny him. I dont know much about his problems but this discussion has prompted me to go and watch him keenly. Thanks for starting this discussion. Sorry for what your baby is going through.
@weemam (13377)
29 Jul 08
Ross our youngest ,he has CP was hyperactive when he was little , I kept him off all E additives , Our eldest who is now 45 has Coeliac and has to stay off gluten , so I know what a trial it can be pal xx
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• Canada
30 Jul 08
Thanks for your support as always my dear wee! Love and Hugs ~Heavens~
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@gemini_rose (16193)
29 Jul 08
I do believe that foods that children eat play a big part in their behaviour. My eldest son is 16 now but when he was little if he had cherryade he would be a child from hell. He would literally bounce off the walls and so I had to stop him having it, plus a few other things too. I do not understand autism fully I am sorry so I cannot say too much on that subject, but I have heard of Mums who have controlled how bad it is through their diets so I would say that what you are doing is going to help him a lot.
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• Canada
29 Jul 08
Thanks Rose I think so too! So much is still yet unknown about Autism and a lot is experimental but what I have done seems to have made a difference with my boy! ~Heavens~
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@baileycows (3669)
• United States
29 Jul 08
My daughter is a type 1 diabetic so yes she has a very special diet. She can eat whatever she wants however some choices are better and she has to eat at the same times and count carbs. With her consistency is most important. We try to eat all our meals at the same time with snacks in between.
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• Canada
29 Jul 08
Yes, I know all about Diabetes my grandfather had that! My boy has terrible BM's (Very loose) I actually have to limit his fruit and some I have taken right out of the diet all together! ~Heavens~
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@mummymo (23707)
21 Aug 08
I hope the rice milk helps heaven but you know that the chocolate in the milk wouldn't have helped with the BMS as chocolate is a natural laxative. My daughter does get milk but only a small amount as it really affects her skin and she gets sore looking and itchy blotches if she has more than a glass a day. It took months for me to figure out what was causing the skin irritations , I did the diary and stopping certain foods to see if it made any difference and it turned out it was the milk! Hugs xxx
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• Canada
22 Aug 08
Thanks Mo! I didn't know about the chocolate....though I add a very small amount.... I know that Fruit contributes to bad BMs for him also...I have known that for a couple years now... My consensus is that he is one complicated little guy...but I am determined to find the solution to all of this and the solution(s) to this puzzle! Love and Hugs ~Heavens~
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@mummymo (23707)
24 Aug 08
Heavens sweety I know that you will work out the best possible diet for your little treasure no matter how complicated! You are one of the best mothers I have ever come across and I know you will figure out this puzzle! Hugs xxx
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• Canada
25 Aug 08
My Dear Mo!!! Thanks so much for the compliment! There are days I do not feel like a very good mother and do not see myself in that light.... ~Heavens~
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@someonesmom (5765)
• Canada
1 Aug 08
Hi Heavens, I know a little bit about certain foods affecting children in different ways. When my daughter was three months old, she developed a serious allergy to the protein in cow's milk. It was a scary time for us, as we didn't know what the problem was at first, and she was hospitalized for a couple of days. They put her on soy milk, and she made great progress. Fortunately, she was able to tolerate cow's milk, by around the age of two, after a couple of unsuccessful attempts to introduce it. Her condition was fully monitored by a pediatrician throughout this time, but we were thankful that the problem was a temporary one. I also babysit a little girl who's now seven, and 'I' notice a marked difference in her behaviour when she drinks beverages containing red dye. She is totally out of control, and off the wall. I've discontinued giving her these types of drinks when she's in my care. I 'know' that you're doing a wonderful job in monitoring your son's food intake, and that you only do what's in his best interest. I wish you all of the best with this, and great success regarding your son's progress, as a result. Hugs to you.
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• Canada
1 Sep 08
Thanks for standing in my corner here also Mom as always and for sharing the story of your Daughter! I just wish my boy was that easy to figure out! Thanks also for the vote of confidence! As I told Mummymo I need that sometimes! Love and Hugs ~Heavens~
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
29 Jul 08
I hope you talked to your doctor about taking away his fruit. That would have serious consequences, as you get a lot of vitamins and minerals from fruit. It might be that he is lactose intolerant or allergic to dairy products and for that you have to see your doctor, not try it on your own. And I do think that he has a milk allergy. Have you tried Soy milk? And is he getting his calcium or other vitamins elsewhere? I would hate that you cured his autism at the expense of his teeth, etc. I do not have a child who is on a special diet, but my sister-in-law is allergic to milk and she has to watch what she eats - no ice cream. etc.
• Canada
29 Jul 08
First of all I'm not looking to cure his Autism! And I have not removed all fruits just certain ones that seem to make him really silly and hard to manage like apples and apple juice! I'm not here to justify myself and if I have to then it is not worth posting here!!! As for calcium I have just started him on rice Milk fortified with Calcium! He takes a vitamin every day as well and has Cod liver oil capsules daily which helps his speech patterns! I do think I am doing something right! ~Heavens~
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@Foxxee (3653)
• United States
31 Jul 08
some kids can't eat fruit at all.... my son doesn't eat fruit at all... can't force food down them you knwo.... this is why there are vitamins... i think heavens is doing a good job with what she is doing... she is the mother and only she knows what her kid can handle...
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• Canada
31 Jul 08
Thanks so much Foxee for standing in my corner!!! ~Heavens~
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