If you have to pay for something online, do you think it's a scam?

Canada
August 5, 2008 11:58am CST
I know when I first started earning online that I screamed scam every time someone said they paid for X. Or they had to pay to join. I guess this discussion acts as a confession of sorts. I'm sorry I ever suggested this. I now realize that earning online is like any other business... there will be costs associated with it. How about everyone else. What do you think?
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@jands1 (835)
• United States
5 Aug 08
I think that some online businesses are akin to all other businesses. Let us take the beauty/fashion industry online. Should you choose to become a consultant with a beauty products company, often there are costs involved. In addition, should you sign up online or "with a real person", that fee would still be there. The best way, in my experience with the online world, since 1988 is that the more a website business opportunity looks like a "slick" pamphlet, the more likely it is that the opportunity they are selling is actually not an opportunity but information that I could find, for free, should I choose to spend an hour researching. And thus I would say those are scams. Making money online is real. I have been doing so since the early 1990s off and on, despite various setbacks (Hurricane Katrina, divorce, etc.). However, paying for something online, I would generally advise a strong don't pay immediately. Do your homework. Research. Just like any other business opportunity. Setting up any business, online or offline requires a ton of research, effort, time and work and sometimes your own money. Just remember that your time is also money. Given the current state of the internet, 99% of the "earn online" and "business opportunities" are scams. Sometimes it seems as though I spend more time wading through the mass of scams to find a gem of an online earning.
• Canada
5 Aug 08
Great post!! And welcome to myLot. Yes, there are a great number of scams out there... and there are some that aren't scams, that simply aren't that great. Our job is to research and find the Diamonds out there!!! :) And you are darn right, my time certainly is money!!!
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@jands1 (835)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Thank you for the warm welcome. It is nice to break out of the warm cloister of the various web communities I run. I'm very happy to see you realize your time is money. People often forget to figure out what they are "worth per hour" and calculate that into any job/business opportunity, etc. In essence, your hourly "rate" counts, in my opinion, towards the "fee" imposed by any company or lack of therein.
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• Canada
5 Aug 08
Thank you. :) You are such a wonderful addition.
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@skydancer (2003)
• United States
5 Aug 08
I agree that earning online - if you're going to make a decent living - requires a lot of time, practice, and patience just like any other job. Many programs make it sound like it is something you can just jump right on into and get rich right away by doing practically nothing but I get the feeling they are just telling you what you want to hear in order to take your money. My personal feeling is that if I have any second thoughts or any doubt whatsoever, I would never pay anything to try out the service. I do not feel anyone should have to pay money in order to make money especially when they aren't even sure if it is going to work out. If a program looks interesting or promising, I will ask around and read different reviews before deciding for sure if I am going to pursue it because there is probably more to it than what meets the eye. The only occasions in which I will pay in order to make money is when I can be sure that I am not being ripped off in any way.
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• Canada
5 Aug 08
I used to think similar to you... But then I shifted my paradigm. Let me put it into perspective. Let's say you want to go to school for business. Now, you have to pay the money to go to school, and you are not sure if you are going to like it and you really do'nt know if it will make you money (economy, no jobs, injury, etc). So really, you are paying money without really knowing. I think some things online are like that above. If you only have to pay a small amount to test it, then I now think it is worth it. You can always do your due diligence and do your best to make sure it is of value to you, but I guess there are times when you need to take that plunge. What happens if you miss the next "great thing" because of a small fee? You seem to do a lot of research and I think that is the most important step. If it stinks like a scam and looks like a scam, well... then it is likely a scam.
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• United States
5 Aug 08
Hey stereo, It is easy to assume everything is a scam. Ecspecially if you have been nurned once or twice. I have been burned, but I have also done quite well at other places. Over all I have made far more than I have lost. You are right, this is a business. It will cost and yes there are risks out there. You just have to realize those risk and NEVER risk more than you are willing to loose. If that is $1 or $1000. Once again the rule of "The greater the investment, the greater the return" applies.
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• Canada
5 Aug 08
I agree with you 100%. :) Thank you for posting.
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@izathewzia (5141)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
I think not. Because there are some sites that are really good. Even they asks for payments. But just be intelligent enough to choose which sites are those. There are tips you can follow.
• Canada
6 Aug 08
I agree with you 100%. All it takes is a little research.
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@Jenaisle (3803)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
I still think if you pay something, it is a scam. Why should you pay for something they should be paying you for? If I have to pay something, I don't usually join. But who knows in the future I might if I have proven that what I will be earning is much more than what I will pay.
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
You may be missing out on some of the best opportunities. As a previous person posted... if it's a job, then no, you shouldn't pay. But, if you are running a business and need to pay for a service, that is different. But I think many people online either confuse this or forget this.
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@bjcyrix (6910)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
heya, I used to believe that also. But I guess it really depends because their 'fee' might be reasonable enough just to sustain the site. I know there might be some of them that are real and genuine but have asks for a fee but with all the scammers out there its just too risky. Unless its been tried by a friend who you really trust. Then I guess it would be worth the risk. I still dont go for those who ask a fee better to be safe than sorry.
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@bjcyrix (6910)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
yeah, I guess they really are.
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@guybrush (4660)
• Australia
6 Aug 08
I'm not a very trusting person, so I'd never pay for anything online - especially if it said I was going to make money from it. I'll buy online goods from reputable businesses such as large book retailers, etc., but I wouldn't be sucked in by the 'spend money to make money' things. I've heard of people paying huge amounts of money to buy sets of CDs and/or videos which supposedly give them tips on gambling, investing, etc., saying they'll be able to make thousands a week. It's sad that the people who are conned are usually the people who can least afford it.
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
That is such a shame that you think every thing should and is free online. To me, it's just like paying for an education or paying a membership. They give me access to professionals and if I need help, one of the owners will over look my work to guarantee I am earning. They do not do the work for me, but they make my membership worth every penny. But, I understand your apprehension because I too felt the same way for a very long time.
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@guybrush (4660)
• Australia
6 Aug 08
No, I definitely don't think everything SHOULD be free online - I was talking about schemes where they try to trick you into getting rich quickly! I'm perfectly happy to pay for any goods or service - and I actually don't even have a PayPal to make money from myLot, as I joined just for the discussions and to meet some interesting people. I do believe there's no such thing as a free lunch, and it's despicable (but inevitable) that the internet is full of dishonest people trying to scam others.
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@glorybel (42)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
I think it's depend upon the sites...if the sites seems all promises maybe they are scam. So just be careful in choosing the sites.
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
That is great advice. :)
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• Philippines
7 Aug 08
thank you...hope we could be friends!
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@apples99 (6562)
• United States
6 Aug 08
yes i think that most websites that ask for money up front are scams because once you pay the site what assurance do you have after that site already has your money so they probably dont care if you make money or not
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@apples99 (6562)
• United States
6 Aug 08
well, im just judging from my experience with internet scams, iv tryed some that swore that if i paid this amount or that amount i will become rich i just dont trust things i see on the net as much as i use to but, if someone had some solid prof and real results to show me i might consider giving it a try.
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• United States
6 Aug 08
Hi StereoDiva! I have been taken by some of those scam sites too I usually just sign up for free money making websites now. My only exception is if the business is well known and has a good reputation. I could be missing out by doing that, but at least I'm not getting scammed. 99% of the time that an online website charges a fee for a job theres a fee. With businesses there are always costs but it's always a gamble to know which ones are legitimate. Take care!
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
A reputation is all an online company has. If they perform poorly, people learn about it quickly. Plus there is the BBB, etc. Thanks for posting. :)
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@apples99 (6562)
• United States
6 Aug 08
yes, i agree with you kellyann627 because with today's economy i cant risk losing money on a scam sometimes i do feel i might be missing out to, but better safe then sorry i try to stick to free site becuse at least if it sucks, you can just cancel your account a you dont have to lose your money.
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@bibinmpt (42)
• India
6 Aug 08
I think we can block the scam sites web address by lodging a complaint with its service provider
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
That would be wonderful if we could. :)
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@yenwie84 (1345)
• Malaysia
6 Aug 08
It depends on what kind of business. If it is something like you need to pay for the job given,I think most probably is a scam. We work for them,they will earn,so it's impossible we need to pay for the assignments and jobs which they give us.
@ShoPhil (12)
• Australia
6 Aug 08
Agreed with StereoDiva!
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
Thank you!!!! :)
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@GLOBALSHEEN (1005)
• India
6 Aug 08
I have sent a friend request.please accept it and tell me how I can make money online thro your very attractive site. My email is globalsheen@gmail.com
• Canada
6 Aug 08
For sure I will. Is this the sheen I know for Traffic exchanges? I'm going to investigate you a bit and I'll certainly be in touch. :)
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@subha12 (18452)
• India
6 Aug 08
sometimes i think so. i am not into any onliv=ne earning site. i am with myklot as i like this firum. i am not here for money though.
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
That is what myLot is here for!! Wonderful discussion. :)
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@jep_toyo (1607)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
I will surely think something is wrong specially if you need to pay some amount before you can earn something...
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@garry52 (47)
• China
6 Aug 08
a lot of information services is should pay,i don not think it's a scam.
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• Canada
6 Aug 08
Thank you for posting. I'm the same.
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@smoke_gun (1243)
• Malaysia
6 Aug 08
the problem is no one may guarantee how long for a paying business program can stand,they paid by today and maybe they'll run with members money by tomorrow.know the risk before join any paying business on internet will be the smart choice.
• Canada
6 Aug 08
Yes, I agree with you completely. You need to know who you are giving your money to and what you will be receiving in return.
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@Corimore (249)
• United States
6 Aug 08
If there is something i am really interested in I check everything before I invest any money into it. I check the company out through the BBB and I also check the Ripoff report sights. That usually gives me a good idea of how a bus. opp. works ethically or not. I found one that had a A rating with the BBB. But with a little research i found I could start on my own without all the regulations of being under a certain company name. I could truly have my own business without them and it would be less of a start up cost. So that is my advice a little research goes a long long way when it comes to gambling hard earned money. The free stuff to join doesn't always make much or any but what the heck it was free to try any way.
• Canada
6 Aug 08
This thread has brought out a lot of great posts and people. I love your last line... and I like how much knowledge you must have. I am in the marketing business so I all my costs I think are a necessity. I think what you did was VERY smart. I hope it is working well for you. :)
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@GardenGerty (109995)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Some online earning opportunities have legitimate costs. Others are scams. Just as at a regular store you can buy quality products, or you can get something disappointing and tacky.
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• Canada
5 Aug 08
LOL!! GardenGerty, you always say the right thing. Soooo true!
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