Squatter on my own house?

@ayessa (1586)
Philippines
August 8, 2008 1:58am CST
Ok my friends and co-mylot member I want to ask you kind/good suggestions or opinion or any words you can say to me with this problem of my family. Here it goes... My mom and her brother and sister is the own who owns this certain house and lot. The house was like a row house or apartment style wherein they live. If you look at that way you will not see any problem but my question is this. What will you do if one of your sibling is asking for the land title will you gave it to him? My mom was the one who holds the title though all their names (her sister and brother) was written as the owner of the land. It was given to her by my grandfather and ask her to keep it. But one of her sister wants to have the title. Now, my mother really does not know what to do. She promised my grandfather that she will not give it to anyone but she's sure that her sister will get mad at her if she does not gave the title. Take note that the sister is older to her cause my mom was the youngest. So what if you are in the situation of my mom what will you do? Thanks for the responses!
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23 responses
@chertsy (3804)
• United States
9 Aug 08
This is a tough situation. Your mom doesn't know what plans her sister has for the property. If your mom and her brother live with her sister, and if the deed is handed over to her sister. She could legally work her way into selling the property and causing your mom and uncle to have no home. So eventhough, your aunt is mad at your mom. Don't let your mom give up the deed to the house. Even though, the other siblings name is on it, your mom has soul possession of it. So your mom should ask her why she wants the deed. Then go from there.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
14 Aug 08
Its really tough and its really something that frightens all of us cause her easons wer seem unjustifiable. According to her she just wants to be sure its the real legal title. How can she think that way?
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@chertsy (3804)
• United States
14 Aug 08
Sounds fishy to me, and I don't blame you or your family for being frighten. I would only tell your mom not to give it to her. Explain to her that their dad gave it to her to keep, so he had his reasons for doing so. Try to word it so it doesn't come out as if she doesn't trust her sister or being mean.
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@chertsy (3804)
• United States
14 Aug 08
oops, I meant to say grandfather instead of dad.
@neildc (17253)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
8 Aug 08
this is one of the most terrible problem to have, distribution of lots. the best thing to do with this problem is to consult a lawyer and better, have the issue settled in the court. although this process will be long and expensive one, nobody will be blamed whatsoever happen to the said lot. if only i can help you but my father who used to work in the land registration authority based in quezon city knows a lot with regards to lot/land division, but he is already retired. (neildc @ red/88/1500)
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
That was also my option but the problem is we don't have enough money to settle this one. Anyway, do you know how to distinguish which title is real and not? I would really appreciate if you can teach me how. Thanks!
@neildc (17253)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
9 Aug 08
that i can't tell you, sorry. you can bring the title to the registry of deeds in your area or to the LRA in QC to verify it.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
12 Aug 08
OK thanks. BUt where was LRA In QC? Sorry Im not familiar in QC.
@checapricorn (16066)
• United States
8 Aug 08
Hi ayessa, I will allow her to see it but I will not allow her to keep it..You mom was authorized by the grandfather to keep it so asked your aunt to tell permission from her dad!
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• United States
9 Aug 08
Sorry for that, I missed some detailed in your post I guess...ANyway, I know it will be hard for your mom to tell her since that is the eldest daughter maybe it's about time to divide the property so no one will keep bothering your family about the title!
@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
12 Aug 08
That is what I am suggesting but they said it was a long and a bit expensive process and the wife of my uncle has no money for that.
@spyjob (214)
• Philippines
8 Aug 08
She should keep it. Lending the title to anyone even to her siblings might give her the problem in the future. She will never know what's in the mind of her sister once the title will go to her hands. And why is she asking for the title anyway? If she has nothing in her mind, she wont ask for it. Though she can't sell the house without any consent from the co-owners, she can have it as collateral for a loan. BTW, I haven't seen squatters in the house.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
You are right there are no squatters in the house but my aunt does consider me as one. You mean my aunt can use it as collateral for loan even without the consent of other siblings?
@spyjob (214)
• Philippines
11 Aug 08
yeah! and she can tell the other siblings that she lost the original title. It takes years before the title can be reconstituted -- meaning to have a new one.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
12 Aug 08
I might say that information to my mom cause we are really having doubts to her intentions. Thanks a lot!
@msedge (4012)
• United States
14 Aug 08
Since they all own the property.Each of them has the right for it.For how long your mom is going to keep it.It should be divided between the three of them i guess.They should talk on how will they divide it but if they would decide to keep it as what it is then i guess the title should be keep by your mom also since she was the one that your grandfather chose to have it and keep.But i tell you one day it would cause trouble if someone would really want the title.Did her sister say what she is going to do with the title?
@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
16 Aug 08
Yes, she said she just wants to make sure that the title was real and she will bring that to someone who knows how to distinguish the real and fake title.
@msedge (4012)
• United States
20 Aug 08
I guess all of them should go with her just to make sure shes not planning anything personal.
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• Philippines
12 Aug 08
i guess,you mum need to talk to all her siblings and to all the people concern[children].your aunt deserve to be heard,she deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt.she may have a good reason why she wanted to get the land title,and maybe your mother and other siblings might consider it after hearing her side or her reasons behind of wanting it so much.i just think that a serious talk among the siblings would be the best move first before you advise your mum to see a legal adviser.for me,it would be best for everyone to settle family matter just among the family.as much as possible,one should not seek outside help and try every possible way to resolve everything inside the house and just among the family.that is just my opinion dearest..anyway,hope everything will be ok with ya..take care ayessa..hugGzz! ="^_^"=
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
14 Aug 08
we are really hoping for things be fine but now but unfortunately there are still tensions going cause my mom still holds the title upon hearing her reaons why she wants to have it. Anyway, thanks for your response!
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
9 Aug 08
Your mother should keep the title. Obviously your grandfather knew that the eldest sister was well provided for, and maybe he knew a bit more about her nature than you did or your mother did. Your mother should see if it is legal and get a lawyer if it was just word of mouth, bring all the documents, make copies, and have a lawyer show them to your aunt. It does not matter if your aunt gets mad at the whole family, your mother owns the property and if your grandfather made her promise not to give it away, she should not. It looks like to me that if your aunt got a hold of the property that she would sell it.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
14 Aug 08
Making her sell the property is what we are all frightened about. That's why we are asking my mom not to gave the title to her sister.
@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
9 Aug 08
Hi ayessa, I hope that the problem can be resolved in a way that causes the less stress for everyone involved. I believe that your mother has to be firm and tell her sister that she intents to respect your grandfathers wishes. Since all three are owners of the land, why would it matter who holds the title? Blessings.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
14 Aug 08
I really believe on what you say. Thanks for that!
@vanities (11387)
• Davao, Philippines
9 Aug 08
i guess i have to ask whats the purpose of it..i mean the getting of the title..does it mean that she is going to sell it? or the intention of it..or does she want a part of it?
@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
14 Aug 08
What if she says, I want to be sure its the real title?
@iyah10 (4116)
• Kuwait
8 Aug 08
In reality and in the name of the Law your Mother and the Sister with the brother have their rights also in this House and also to the Land. So, the better way is that your Mother have to talked to her family with this matter and if they will not listen then they can get a Lawyer to settle on what are the things they have to do in their part and if your Mother is interested on the estate then I think she have to buy it to them with all the legal documents but if the person who will asked with the documents especially for the siblings of your Mother then they do not have the right......
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8 Aug 08
I would respect my fathers wishes. he obviously gave it to me for a reason and didn't want anyone to have it!! Despite what other siblings say, it was handed to me and I would do all I can to ensure it stays that way!! I know it will cause problems between the siblings but my father wanted me to have the land title for a reason!! You do say that all the names are down as the land owners but I would find out why she wants it and what she plans to do with it!!
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
Yeah she really does have reasons for that and I am really afraid for that. Thanks a lot!
@deebomb (15322)
• United States
8 Aug 08
Your mom should keep the land title and not give it to her sister. There has to be a reason for your grandfather to give it to your mom instead of the oldest sister. He probably figured she might pull something shady. Does she give your mom a reason for wanting the land title? If she's not forth coming than she is up to no good. What does her brother have to say about it?
@jammyt (2824)
• Philippines
8 Aug 08
My husband is a lawyer and has handled plenty of cases just like this. Even if your mom gives the land title her sister won't be able to do anything because other names are written there as co-owners. She will not be able to sell it because she will need the "approval" of the other owners.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
Thanks for that!
@dpk262006 (56592)
• Delhi, India
8 Aug 08
Your mother appears to have landed in a very very tricky and difficult situation. I understand if your grand father transferred the right of land to your mother legally and officially, then she need not worry about her sister. If it was a legal transfer then she need not share it with her sister nor does she. If required, your mother will be able to prove her 'title' in the Court of Law. If the same was not transferred legally, then it is better to seek 'legal advice' and make herself protected. Till she do all the above steps, she can keep her sister in good humour and can tell her that she is trying to figure out a solution for this problem. Best of Luck to you and your mother.
@NonaSaile (926)
• Philippines
8 Aug 08
Per her father's wishes, it is understandable that your mother should keep the title. Uhmmm... maybe she could get it photocopied, have the copy certified as a true copy, and give that to her sister - that might satisfy the elder sister for now.
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@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
How I wish that would satisfy her. Thanks for that suggestion!
@kaezy_kulet (2465)
• Philippines
8 Aug 08
i will talk to my sister and tell her the promise that i have kept to our father..if she really is older she must be also wiser and understand that our father wants me to keep the land title..and even though it is named for all of us i still have a promise to keep..
@ayessa (1586)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
Sounds that easy but it wasn't. It cause a lot of tension already. Thanks for the post!
• United States
9 Aug 08
Well if the grandfather placed the land with her in sacred trust and bond then maybe she should honor HIS wishes and not the sister's wishes.
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@howard96h (11658)
• New York, New York
8 Aug 08
If there are three names on the deed then they are 3 equal owners, one can not sell the property without the signatures and approval of the other two owners, so if your mother has the original deed I don't see a problem with the other two owners having a copy of the deed, their names are on it too, they are joint owners.
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@rup011 (726)
• Germany
8 Aug 08
Just tell your mother to keep her promise, that she made with your grandfather. If your grandfather had thought that your mother is the one who deserves the title, no body else has the right to change it.
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@subha12 (18453)
• India
8 Aug 08
it is difficult. she should talk with her sister. but these problems crop up. but also its better to equally divide between all.
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