I will probably offend ALOT of people with this, but hey...

@nanciem (1106)
United States
August 8, 2008 9:37pm CST
I must say this, now before I started typing I checked the MYLOT Do's and Do nots.. I just came from a reply to my response, this person asked a question, I amswered, and there comment to my Response was to give myself to God... Ok but, that does not make sense to me. Not like anyone cares I am a Practicing Catholic, and I am sure everyone else has their beliefs, I do not push, preach mine on anyone else here, we are all DIFFERENT, some people may be insulted by such a comment ( I am not, but I believe in this.. everyone has their own) I do not feel this is a place to Preach our Religious beliefs, Please by no means anyone take any offense to what I am typing, I just think Religious Belief is everyones own, we should not push our beliefs on anyone! Sorry if I offend anyone, it just makes me upset, does anyone agree or disagree?
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19 responses
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
Yes, it is OK to share your beliefs in here but it is not OK to push everybody to believe in what you believe in. Right? Like telling people that you will go to hell if you will not believe their teachings.
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@Jenaisle (3803)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
No one should force their beliefs on you. The spiritual journey is a personal one and no one knows your relationship with your God, but you. Everyone should be respected for his beliefs and religion. Respect should be accorded to everyone no matter what race, creed or religion he belongs to. Since this is a forum community, each should be free to express his own ideas and beliefs. Happy MyLotting.
@laglen (19779)
• United States
9 Aug 08
I understand your point. I do think it is ok to have religious discussions here, but it shouldn't be injected into others. That way, you can just not open that discussion. Especially if it is your discussion and had nothing to do with religion.
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@klaudine (3651)
• Indonesia
9 Aug 08
I am in the middle agree and disagree... I agree with you that this is not a place for preachers. In the sense of you don't have to post about your beliefs everywhere in all discussions. I am not a religious person, and I don't have religion, and I felt a little bit uncomfortable sometimes if people start to bring this up in discussions that have nything related to religions But my disagreement is.. that those people has the right to have a discussion about their beliefs too. There are, I believe, some place to talk about it in MyLot... I saw that there are a religious section in this place, they can talk about it there for free...
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@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
I wasn't aware of a religious section, that's great! This is what I mean, you are not a religious person, even though I am, I do not push my beliefs on anyone who may not be religious. Like I said this comment to my response threw me way off guard... I was like.. HUH? THat has nothing to do with the question/post. That is what prompted me to post this. Again I am sorry if I offend anyone.. that is not my goal at all. Have a great day (I saw that you shouldn't say Thanks, but shhh Thanks for the response!) LOL
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@klaudine (3651)
• Indonesia
9 Aug 08
Yeah... I know how you feel.. sometimes I just so tempted to give [-] to people who posts something that is not related to the discussion and just bring beliefs to answer all kind of discussion. Here in MyLot you haven't seen anthing yet, nanciem... you should come to some other forum where there is a member who had a fight with me (in the forum of course) just because he brought his beliefs in the science section. And yeah.. there is a religious section, I saw in the interests that there is one, so if you want to you can browse there and have a 'hot' discussion :p
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@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
Oh My Klaudine, I am not so sure I want to see that! YIKE in the science discussion? I try to mind my business, post what I think may interest others, goofy or not. I also try to respond in the same way, it's like being blind-sided. I know this is a free forum, however, now disagree if you must (LOL), but I did read on the Do's and Dont's that you should not say "Thank you" for any responses.. HELLO! But we can tell each other "Where to Go?" LOL it baffels me! So NO thank you for your post! LOL, u know i am kidding about that right?
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@redkathy (3375)
• United States
9 Aug 08
I am not offended and I do know people who believe as you do. What I disagree with is that this is not the place. Preaching I agree with you should not be done, but sharing here I think is what we should and are called to do. Bible says we should not push our beliefs on others yet we are commissioned to "Share the Good News".
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@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
Well put, Oh we can all share, but like it says we should not PUSH, but that is what I felt when I read the comment, it had Absolutley nothing to do with what I typed... It was quite odd, took me off guard. you know what I mean?
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@redkathy (3375)
• United States
9 Aug 08
Yeah, I know what you mean. It was a wise as$ comment... the opposite of how we are supposed to be!
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
9 Aug 08
Hi! i am not offended at all by your discussion! i have not experienced this here on mylot other than perhaps people saying god bless which i think is sweet! i am a catholic although not practicing but i agree with you that people should not push their beliefs on other people. religion is a very personal thing and people have their own ideas, that is fine, in fact it is the way the worldshould be, if everybody thought the same it would be a really dull place, so people should never try to push their beliefs on others! happy mylotting! xx
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@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
This is the first time I have ever seen this here, although I am told there is an Interest Category for Religion, which I think is great people can share their views, beliefs as we do in general Q&A. It is a very personal thing, and that is the way it should remain, unless you are seeking advice on Religion. Thanks again! Have a good one!
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• Philippines
9 Aug 08
Good day.. I'm not offended. People are entitled to their own opinion and beliefs. We just have to be courteous with each other about it.
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@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
You are so right blackmantra, everyones own opinion and belief, I agree that everyone is entitled to. Even if we get offended, it is true! Thanks for the reply!
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@medicguy (307)
• Pakistan
9 Aug 08
I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, those people who try to push their belief systems unto others are in reality driving away individuals from their faith rather than making them accept their message. If a person, on the other hand, is interested, guide him or her. Preaching and guiding are two very different approaches. I can always guide you but it is within the hands of God to give you the sense of morality and the intuition to accept what is right and what is wrong. I am in no place to judge people and as a matter of fact, it is by no means my obligation or a duty that I must adhere to. I have to answer to my deeds only. I will be judged for my actions, not others. May Allah (God) forgive me and guide us all to the right path. If God has given us the free choice to select what is good for us, then I see no problems in people doing whatever they please to do. Preachers are just seeding hatred among the masses, nothing more than that. Thank you for sharing this.
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
Hi Medicguy! I do absolutley agree with what you say about people being driven away from their faith. Like I have said many times in this discussion, I am a practicing Catholic, that is my choice, I choose to worship when I feel. I do not need to be reminded every hour of this, I know where I stand in my beliefs, I don't need anyone to remind me. When I am in Church, I would definately be offended if someone came up to me and asked for Technical Support, it is not the time nor the place in my mind, same holds true here. I replied nothing containing my Religious beliefs, however I did share my view. I am babbling, I hope I am making sense! Another great response! Well they all are! Have a great day and Thank you!
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@foxyfire33 (10009)
• United States
9 Aug 08
As I'm sure you've figured out by the varied responses that this is a very tricky topic. I do agree that everyone has the right to express their religious opinions and that goes for every side. We all have to work together to keep at least some harmony here though and that goes for both sides too. Expression should be accepted where it's appropriate and that's where there's a teeny tiny fine line that people struggle with. I think it's presumptuous to tell someone to give themselves to God unless you know for a fact they haven't and from the sounds of it the response you're referring to had nothing to do with anything like that. But the statement itself is as harmless as an innocent "God Bless You" when you hear a person sneeze, when the statement fits the context of what is being said....which in your case, it didn't. So, would I be offended if someone said that to me? It would depend on the context. Pushing beliefs is annoying at best, Sharing beliefs is understandable although not necessarily welcomed.
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@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
Thank you! That is exactly what I am trying to convey here, you stated it much better than I did. I do now however, when someone does sneeze, I say "bless you", as I do not know what their Religious beliefs are, I try not to offend, because you never know. I know that is not your point, I just wanted to point that fact out, that that is what I now do as there are so many different beliefs.. does that make sense? Thanks agian for such a great response!
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• United States
9 Aug 08
This is the second discussion i have read tonight where someone has been unhappy with the type of response or topic that is being on here...this is what i feel. When you join a PUBLIC site such as this, or any other site like Myspace, Yuwie, things involving social networking. You have to be prepared to see all sorts of things, read all sorts of things and well be told all sorts of things. You dont have to agree with any of it, you may be offended by it...but i dont know if immediately starting a discussion to complain about it, is necessary. Just my thought, and no offense to anyone...i just think that ppl have to realize, its part of what happens in this type of site. as much as i agree they shouldnt preach their beliefs..who am i to stop them, its a free world, and everyone has a right to say how they feel, even if not asked their opinion..lol
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@nanciem (1106)
• United States
9 Aug 08
Hiya Faln_angel, I completely understand your point, but can you understand mine, exactly like you said,, it's a Public place, and yes, people have every right to express their beliefs, enjoyments, religion, and dislikes.. isn't that exactly what I am doing? I am not "really complaining" I am asking for others thoughts on this, if others are offended, I myself am not offened, but I did feel the resonse had nothing to do with the discussion. I gave my thoughts and heart into my reply, as I always do, and to be commented back was "give yourself to God".. OK what did that mean? I am sorry I just don't understand it, if this person did not want a true hearted response, then why post? Thanks again, Have a Great Weekend!
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@paulsy (1264)
• Philippines
12 Aug 08
Well, in my opinion, you have to accept the fact that everyone has his or her own ideas to write about. No one has control over what comes up in the thoughts of the other. Mylot is place where you can feely write about your thoughts and opinions and to learn about what others think about it. You are not obliged to agree with what the others are thinking. I believe that if a topic doesn't appeal to you or offends you, then you may opt not to respond to it. If you choose to do otherwise, then you have to be willing to expect that there are others who may disagree with you. My point is, we are all here to write and enjoy ourselves, and to earn from our writing as well, so let's not make ourselves miserable in this site... what do you think?
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
12 Aug 08
Honestly what I think?... Well, I do believe maybe I did not state when starting this discussion, what I wanted to state. Yes we are all free here on Mylot; This is what I mean, I responded what looked to me being a "normal Discussion" I took the time time to reply, because I did find it interesting, and the comment back to my reply was "Give yourself to God"... Umm hello! But ya know, every comment back was Go to God, God loves you, God Hears us. This is crap to me, not the Religion part, but what I feel is, this post was not sincere, I was sincere in my reply. I am here to write as well, and I do have the right as well as the "Preachers" to express my feelings, but when I do, I get statements like "Well this is a Public Discussion", "We are free to write what we want"... HELLO! That is exactly what I am doing. So why do people make it seem wrong? That repky, comment had nothing to do with the dicussion, and, quite frankly, I did not appreciate it either. I guess, what I am saying is, like I have said in posts above, I felt blindsided.
@Harley009 (1420)
• India
12 Aug 08
Yea, we should not force our belief to anyone. But I used to say what is my belief, why I believe in it with it's ideas and logic. I'm ok to discuss about other religion as well with logic and clear proofs, But I can't cope with some people they even can't think outside their belief and think in a neutral way, they just repeat what they believe without any proofs.
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
12 Aug 08
Very well stated. I am open to others views, but I believe the conversation and topis has to be initiated, yes by both parties in the conversation, well, initiated by one and the other continues. I would never push my religion, or beliefs on anyone, it's their choice! Not mine. Thanks for your reply! Have a goody day!
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
9 Aug 08
We do have a Christian selection and if there is anything about Christianity that is the place to talk about it. The trouble is that Christianity is a way of life. People assume that Muslims and other faiths have a way of life, like Muslims will talk about Ramadan and praying to Mecca and Buddhist talk about enlightenment, yet us Christians can only practice our belief in our own homes or at church. So since my Church is against gambling, I cannot listen to a sermon that talks about covetousness, refuse to play the lottery on Tv, and yet go down to the Mall and buy a lottery ticket. If it is wrong in the house or at church, it is wrong even in the Mall. However there is no need for someone to tell you to give yourself to God. Saying that they will pray that you get better if you are ill, or things will look up, is just showing concern. The thin line between their confession and pushing is small indeed, but it is there.
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
11 Aug 08
I agree, it is a very fine line, and to cross that line is very easy for anyone. One does not always know anothers beliefs, etc. So isn't it better left unsaid? I do not mean out of sincere concern when people say they will pray. When statements like Give yourself to God, are said right from the hip, that's strang to me. Thanks for your response!
@insulin (2481)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
well,I'm not offended with this and I agree with you that this is not the place for preachers and we have our own beliefs it's true...But the thing is,This is a discussion site so you can discuss everything you like a long that it is not making any trouble...:-0 I know how you feel about it but don't be upset...:-0 Just don't think about it and relax for a while...:-0 Have a nice day...:-0
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
11 Aug 08
I am not too upset, I was, now I am just shaking my head like.. :ok what does that have to do with the price of tea"... Ya know? Yes, I do know people can discuss whatever they like, but I also believe it should stick with the topic, most everyone does, this one just caught me off guard. I will relax... Breathe.. Breathe Nancie.. Whew OK better now! LOL Have a good one!
@GMWilll (84)
• United States
9 Aug 08
I agree, but I think that's what's wrong with a lot of the world today. People are so focused on having everyone believe what they do in order to gain a sense of self righteousness and comfort, that they mess up the order of the things and do things that contradict their own religion. I have a strong belief in christianity, but I have lost all faith in christians themselves.
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
11 Aug 08
This is a very interesting response, as I know quite a few people who do feel the same as you do, some people have lost faith in others, that's sad, but unfortunately it is very true!!! Thank you for your response.. Have a wonderful day.
• United States
9 Aug 08
I think people just want to comment and make money. I am here for the fun of it, but I noticed many people here write anything, because no what your helping you and someone else by commenting. I think people feel a little more freer her to say whatever because of that. I think it is a cool site because of it.
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
11 Aug 08
It is a very cool site, I can see how people just "post to post", but I have also seen ALOT of great discussions, and interesting views. I have not been here very long, but I think it's great! Thanks for responding!
• United States
9 Aug 08
This is not a offensive discussion. You are not downing anyone who says that. Just that we all have our own way of believing and I agree with you. This is not a place where our religion should be preached. And as you say we are all different. I can not see anything that anyone would take offense at. I am like you I don't push my believes on anyone and that doesn't just mean online but even with people that I know. This is a very good discussion. Not offensive at all.
@nanciem (1106)
• United States
11 Aug 08
Thank you for you support in this discussion. I do not preach online, or offline, my beliefs are mine, and anyone elses are theirs. I am not one to judge anyone, as I do not like to be judged. I do not preach, as I do not like to be preached to. Thanks again! Have a great day!
• United States
19 Aug 08
I don't go to church as I should but anyway, I have this annoying lady who keeps coming to my house to tell me about what she believes in. My husband was home the other day when she asked for me by name. She just will not leave me alone & I am not the type to be mean to anyone. How do you get rid of one who drops off pamphlets & keeps teaching something that you are not interested in without being mean?
• United States
15 Aug 08
I am not offended by what you wrote. Im catholic & i am the outsider usually. I was living in CA & my parents were on the east coast so i went to my dads best friends house for the holidays. Well i went to 10pm mass on christmas eve by myself no big deal. But when i came back i was cornered by my dads friend & one of his friends and they were telling me that i was going to hell because i wasnt a christian they also has some not so nice words about Mary. First of all i was very respectful i listened even though it upset me. I respect all religions & i never put down someones belief. I said i believe we should show Mary respect because after all didnt god think she was pretty special if he chose her to be Jesus's mom? Also i said Catholic is greek and it means Universal. But they attend Calvary Chapel & i have had the privledge of going to church with him & his family. I have never heard the priest say anything negative about anyones belief. But the Pastor there had alot of negative things to say about catholics. I felt uncomfortable & after the service i was asked what i thought. I replied its different. So yes i totally agree with you nanciem