We don't need to eat meat

@vegegirl (828)
Australia
August 21, 2008 10:07am CST
Many people say that we can't be vegetarian because we need all these nutrients that meat gives us. Well I have been vegetarian for 20 or more years and I just visited a naturopath tonight who tested all my vitamin and mineral levels and found they were all very good. My iron and iodine levels are perfect. I have also given blood once and my haemoglobin was good enough for the blood people! So does this convince some of you that there isn't a nutritional reason for not giving up meat? **exception - people that are allergic to plants you aren't included in the people I am challenging here.
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38 responses
• United States
22 Aug 08
ya, i am with u i think the people are eat non-veg only for there taste.... but they dont think that , they kill some one........ i think that the non veg persons are cruel.... they have no any feelings about birds and animals..........
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@eloouuu (176)
23 Aug 08
I eat meat. I care about birds and animals. Animals live and animals die. As I already stated, you should not pick on those of us who maintain a normal, healthy diet, but on those who go about killing the animals inhumanely. It is your kind of attitude that portrays meat eaters as cold-blooded murderers. I genuinely believe there are bigger problems in the world concerning humans being killed than to put birds and animals on a pedestal and raise them to the same level as human beings. Do you respect animals as much as you respect people too or is it just killing them that you draw the line underneath? Animals should not be killed inhumanely. Being killed is never going to be "okay" but there are ways and means which reduce their pain. There are many local farms that provide a small amount of hand-reared produce that isn't killed in the way you see on the PETA videos. Maybe you should visit some and get a more educated idea about the process, rather than just the view you want to portray to all of us.
• United States
23 Aug 08
yr ....... its not means that we can kill the animals for food only GOD provides us diferent kinds of food.......... so why we have to kill the animals for food ........
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@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
24 Aug 08
Thanks ankushbansal You are so right, we don't need to kill animals!
@goldeneagle (6776)
• United States
21 Aug 08
Meat isn't a necessary part of our diet. I don't mean to go religious on you, but if you read in the bible, and pay attention to what Jesus ate, you will find very little mention of Him eating meat. It does speak of Him eating fish, but a lot of what He ate was fruits, vegetables, and breads. There is a book and cookbook set called "what would Jesus eat?" I have read it, but I don't have the cookbook yet. It sounded like some pretty good food, though. If you look at some of the diets on the market, such as the Mediterranean or South Beach Diet, they stress fruits and veggies over meat as well. Americans eat a lot of meat, especially here in the South where I live. Meat has been turned into the main course, with very few vegetables involved most of the time. From what I can tell by reading about other cultures, this is totally different from most other places in the world...Maybe this is why America has the highest obesity rate of any country in the world??? Definitely get the "what would Jesus eat?" book and cookbook. I think you will find it rewarding and enjoyable.
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• United States
21 Aug 08
Speaking of meat...I need to take a break from Mylotting and go marinate some ribs to cook for dinner tonight LOL
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@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
21 Aug 08
HI goldeneagle thanks for your views. I have heard Jesus was an essene and was probably vegetarian! But I have also seen some christian health books that still advocate some meat! I will look into the book you mention as many things about Jesus can be quite interesting!
@vanities (11351)
• Davao, Philippines
22 Aug 08
i guess i do not belong to those people who think that way..since i like vegetables and fruits..but i do eat meat..but not frequently ..maybe once a week or twice..that goes alos with my family members ... they always eat what i serve in the table ..
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
23 Aug 08
Hi Vanities That is great that you often eat without meat - you would probably be termed a flexitarian - and you are encouraging your family to eat many vegetarian meals. Thanks for your comments.
@sumiirajj (1983)
• India
21 Aug 08
Hi friend,I dont believe that meat eaters get all the nutrients than vegetarians.Many people all over the world are slowly changing from nonvegetarians to vegetarians.many people say that vegetarians only have a long life than nonvegetarians.thanks for sharing.happy mylotting.
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
21 Aug 08
thankyou sumiirajj for your views. It's nice to see people are starting to see the benefits in the vegetarian diet!
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@robert19ph (4586)
• Philippines
22 Aug 08
[u]Hello vegegirl, I know several person who are vegetarian and they are healthy and strong. You can get your protein from a lot of vegetable so it is not a problem. For non-vegetarian like me, it would take a lot of adjustment to eat only vegetable. Also most of the eating establishment in our place have all meat on their menu. It's hard to find pure vegetarian restaurant so it is only possible to do it at home. But I don't think it's the reason why I can't eat pure vegetable. Meat taste great and even though vegetable also taste great I am going to miss eating meat in case I concentrate on eating vegetable. I do eat vegetable but not exclusively. Regards.[/u]
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
22 Aug 08
Thanks robert19ph I used to eat meat and there were certain things I liked, that isn't why I stopped eating it. I stopped because I thought it was cruel to eat animals, regardless of liking the taste of lasgna or prawn cutlets or toasted bacon sandwiches. There aren't any vegetarian restaurants in my town and it can be difficult when I go out as I have to specifically say no chicken stock or no fish sauce when I order a vegetarian meal. It is just something I have persevered with and it is easier to eat at home. Sometimes I have to ask them to change a meal slightly or ask them not to add some of the ingredients. Sometimes I even take some special things to add - in case they only have a boring salad. I still go out to lunch once a week with my work colleagues and often one or 2 other times a week for a meal or juice etc with my friends or family. I always eat vegetarian and have been trying hard for vegan when I go out lately. It is a lot of adjustment, as you said ,and I suppose not every one is strong enough to make that admustment as it is easier in most places to eat meat.
• Philippines
23 Aug 08
[u]Hello vegegirl, I thought you have been a vegetable girl ever since. I admire your courage for keeping your vows not to eat meat. I feel that meat is part of our meal. There are certain things that God won't let us eat because it is not holy. Regards.[/u]
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
23 Aug 08
Thanks robert, for your comments and perspective on this.
• India
22 Aug 08
Hi vegegirl, I really appreciate your vegetarianism.Apart from checking your protein,iron,iodine levels you need to also check your pesticide ,chemical level in blood for you have been so long lived on plants.Now all vegetables,fruits sold in markets are excessively treated with chemicals to improve their age.To name a few Grapes is the fruit treated with pesticide at its every level.Cauliflower is the vegetable treated in chemicals to get rid of worms in it.Like wise I can be adding.Think world has more poor people than rich.All of them need some form of protein substitute.I can take you to be fortunate enough for not being among those.All said just to share,no ill feelings my friend.
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@ersmommy1 (12605)
• United States
22 Aug 08
Meat eating is a habit. And one that can be hard to break. We can get protein from other sources. Beans are a good example. Peanut butter, broccoli and spinach are also good sources of protein besides having other benefits. Meat is just easier, because it is what most have always eaten. Change is difficult.
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@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
23 Aug 08
Thanks for your contribution ersmommy - yes it is very hard to change when we have been bought up and taught to eat meat - we have to do whole lot of new learning ourselves to do this, so meat is easier for most westerners! I was interested to find out at my nieces school now they have vegetarian options in their tuckshop and their home ec class also gives the students a choice of making a vegetarian meal when they cook a dish. When I was at school everyone learnt to make the same dishes and I don't remember making vegetarian dishes!
• Philippines
22 Aug 08
well i saw in the TV that vegetables can be made to taste like meat, this is a very good idea because vegetables has more nutrients and omega 3 and 6 thus eating this kind of foods is very helpful to an individual. on the other hand, i never heard of something that the meat is made something that will taste like vegetables... ahehehehe... im just emphasizing the limits of meat ang vegetables...
@baileycows (3670)
• United States
22 Aug 08
I agree. I do not eat meat either. I just don't like the texture and none of my doctors have ever complained that I had any kind of vitamin defeciencys. There are other foods that have the same vitamins as meats do. You just need to make sure that you are eating them.
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@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
24 Aug 08
Thanks baileycows, yes I always hated eating steaks and things - I didn't like chewing on them. Good on you for finding out what else you could eat!
@tjonys (217)
• China
21 Aug 08
Chu Liuxiang small when the teacher asked him a question, since we do not want to see the lives lost in our side, then why should we eat meat? The teacher replied that, since you need, you have to eat, not to have such sentiments.Plants have life, why do we do it no compassion, because plants will not be calling Therefore, we should not eat meat at the time, the compassion such sentiments should be avoided!
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@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
21 Aug 08
thankyou tjonys for your interesting story!
@snowy22315 (31345)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I agree with you. I think people tend to eat more protein than they actually need anyway. I think that the majority of people would do fine on a vegetarin diet. I'm not sure if you are talking about vegetarian or vegan but either way there are enough protein substitutes out there to keep people healthy. My sisterinlaw is vegan and has extremely good cholesterol and iron levels.
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@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
21 Aug 08
Thankyou snowy. I have been vegetarian for around 20 years but have started transitioning to a raw vegan diet, but i have had animal products (not meat but dairy or eggs) a few times over the last few months - at a restaurant etc. I have only bought a dairy item once over the last few months, so have nearly stuck to vegan with the few lapses when I went out. It is good to hear about your sister in law's iron levels (as this is something people worry about in vegans and vegetarians). She shouldn't have bad cholestoral as the only food with that in is animal products!
@kenzie45230 (3563)
• United States
21 Aug 08
You're right. We don't need meat to get all the nutrients we need to survive. Here in the US, we certainly don't need the kind of meat available to us. We don't need the hormones, steroids, and antibiotics that are fed to the animals we eat. Although I'm not a vegetarian myself, my son is. When I was a single mom and cooking for the two of us, I usually cooked vegetarian for him. Then if I wanted to eat meat, I'd go out to a restaurant. I discovered that the less meat, the less I could eat. Although it might taste good, it obviously doesn't like me any more. My digestive system can attest to that. My hubby does eat meat, though. Thankfully, with the diabetes II diet he has to be on, he can't eat loads of it anymore. Not long ago, I was in the grocery store and discovered some ground beef that was more expensive because the cattle had been raised to roam free, grain fed, and never given hormones or antibiotics. What a difference! It tasted like meat that I had when I was a kid - over 40 years ago. I think if I could find meat like this more often - and it wasn't so expensive - I would buy some now and then and really enjoy it. Until then, the doo-doo meats that our stores sell doesn't like me. And it just doesn't taste good.
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@LadyMarissa (12165)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I am happy for you... I have NEVER challenged your right to be a vegetarian & I don't appreciate you challenging My right to eat meat!!! I've tried the vegetarian diet & I did not feel well after a few days. Personally, I think EVERYONE needs a healthy balance of meats & veggies. I also believe that EVERYBODY has the right to choose for themselves. Plants are living breathing things too!!! I'm sure they would appreciate all of us eating MORE meat!!!
@irishidid (8115)
• United States
22 Aug 08
I killed an onion.
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
22 Aug 08
Hi LadyMarissa, it's a pity you don't believe in the animals rights to chose for themselves, but thanks for your comments. I'm sorry your few days didn't work out but if you had held on a bit longer maybe it would have been better as you may have been going through a detox for a while, but at least you gave it a try.
@LadyMarissa (12165)
• United States
23 Aug 08
It's a pity you don't believe in the plant's right to choose also. Just think how healthy you could be with some good red meat about 3 days a week....that's ONLY every other day with Sundays off for good behavior.
• Philippines
22 Sep 08
I usually eat meat but since I started suffering from my gastric problem, I tried to eat vegetables every other day. I also eat meat because of my insomnia. I have learned from a friend that if I eat vegetables regularly especially lettuce, I'll be able to solve my sleeping disorder. I can say that she's telling the truth because when I started eating vegetables, I sleep and sleep more compared to before that I'm having difficulties in sleeping early.
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
5 Oct 08
Thanks angiemabute it's good 2 know that veggies can help u sleep. A lot of people have insomnia so this is sure to interest them. It's nice something natural can help.
• China
23 Aug 08
Hi,vegegirl.U r so cool to be vegetarian for 20 or more yrs!i think i can live without meat for one day.Althouth u said that we dont need to eat meat and we can be a healthy person just by eating vegetables,but i think u will have far less delicious meal then....lol....Pork,beef,chicken,etc...i like them all.So i think i wont be vegetarian before 50 yrs old..
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
23 Aug 08
Thanks Lovecoffin for your appreciation. I have lots of delicous things - curries with chickpeas and lentils, stir fries with tofu, basil, garlic and chilli - veggie lasagna, lentil burgers and lots of other things like chilli with red beans. When I go away with my mum or sisters and I look at their pans they have to wash up - I see the white fatty stuff on the bottom of the pan that came from the meat and I think "imagine what that must be doing to your insides?". Since you do housework, you have probably seen the pans after cooking meat so you probably know what I am talking about. But I did eat meat when I was younger and it did take a lot of learning to change, so I can't say anything against people that have been bought up that way! Does that mean you are thinking about becoming vegetarian one day? Good luck if so.
• United States
22 Aug 08
I am a meat and potato girl myself. I couldn't image life w/o the two.
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
23 Aug 08
Hi Addynlexie, believe it or not I used to be like that myself. I thought it was cruel to eat animals but I couldn't imagine life without the toasted bacon sandwhiches, chips and gravy etc - but I have found out about lots of other tasty things I can eat instead - probably helps my own health as well! Thanks for your comments.
• Bangladesh
22 Aug 08
I can't support you. Because we need meat. Though we wouldn't die if we don't eat meat. But the meatlover will die if they stop eating meat. Yeah it's good that you are ok without meat. But it doesn't mean that everyone else will be ok without meat.
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
24 Aug 08
Thanks niv I don't know if I agree though, smokers don't die when they give up smoking and they love smoking! But I realise moset people won't give up meat, of course they could try a couple of vegetarian meals during the week!
• India
22 Aug 08
Well vegetarianism and lack of nutrients don’t really hold good coz in my country India, most of the people are veggies…they are mainly dependent on milk and milk products and pulses and beans. All these are rich in protein and calcium and other vital nutrient and they are doing OK…even excellent if I may say so. however, I am not very sure if they can have strong muscular bodies with only a veggie diet. On my part, I am a non-veggie with a vengeance and I firmly believe that being a part of the animal kingdom, I gladly partake everything that is on offer as food … veg / non-veg
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
24 Aug 08
Thanks sudiptacallingu. Yes, people can have strong muscular bodies on a veggie diet. It must be so interesting to be surrounded by vegetarians there would be so many more eating out options. Well if you think of yourself as an animal, I guess I can't stop you - but do you sleep in a cave or a kennel?. It's good to see you eat vegetarian sometimes though.
• China
22 Aug 08
A balanced diet is the best way to provide the body with the nutrition. of couse including animal and plant
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
23 Aug 08
Thanks jackliuliu - a balanced diet will provide the body with nutrition - it doesn't have to included meat.
@drzeuss (130)
• United States
21 Aug 08
It didn't convince me. For my dietary habits, for me, were never in question. i am an omnivore. Before i hear that usual "eating meat kills the earth", let me assure you that ninety percent of the meat that i ingest comes from local farms or the woods just right outside my back door. As a matter of fact i just ate deer chili where the venison came from a deer that was killed by my cousin. By the way it's not sport hunting, we eat what we kill around here. ;) You're healthy and all you eat are vegetables, i think that is great for it is a choice that you decided on. i don't get why someone is always challenging someone else to join their lifestyle because in their opinion their way of life is better. To each his own and live and let live i say, m'dear. ;)
@vegegirl (828)
• Australia
22 Aug 08
Thanks drzeuss. Maybe I phrased the "challenge" bit wrong. I wasn't trying to force vegetarianism down your throat (although there is a lot I could say) but many people tell me that you can't get all your nutrients unless you eat meat. I just wanted to prove that is not so. If you aren't one of those people that eats meat and tries to say there is something lacking in the vegetarian diet, well good for you. I still don't agree with the killing, no matter who does it, but I don't expect everyone to stop killing just because I don't agree with it. I disagree with it because there are plenty of alternatives we can eat that don't involve killing. But if people are happy with killing things who am I disapprove?