Is 9/11 disaster a terrorist attack or a well-planned conspiracy?

Papua New Guinea
August 28, 2008 11:16pm CST
I watched a lot of videos about this on Youtube and these videos speak for themselves. The September 11 attack was not a mere terrorist attack or something. It is a conspiracy transpired by the government of America, trying to "fulfill" the goal of what they call the "New Order". Many people have lost their lives because of this attack and I think, the real suspect must be pinpointed out for the sake of justice!
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• United States
29 Aug 08
Oh my God, seriously? SERIOUSLY??!! The government killing a random sampling of it's own citizens to cause panic and cost upteen millions of dollars in rebuilding and recompence to the survivors to bring about what change exactly? Same guy is president, government is still run the same, yeah, we declared war on Ahfganhastan, but that hasn't really gone anywhere... Personally, I think the guy who makes videos about how much he hates the US, drives people to jihad, and who took credit for the hijackings is really the most likely culprit. Read a real paper and stop watching so much Youtube. It will rot your brain.
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• Papua New Guinea
29 Aug 08
I am not just watching home-made crap videos in Youtube.
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• United States
29 Aug 08
Well said properator. but he is convinced that this 'videos' are factual. I can take any subject out there and make it into propaganda, or a 'conspiracy'.
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
6 Sep 08
No one will ever be able to prove our government was involved in 911 but I can prove they planned something along these lines in 1962. Go to the link below and scroll down a little. You will find 14 declassified government documents that lays out a plan to fake a Cuban attack on the US. They planned this just to get the backing of the people so they could invade Cuba. Here's the link. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Aug 08
All the conspiracy theories leave out two major points. 1) There were eye witnesses 2) People in the airliners were talking to loved ones and describing what was going on. Also, some of the major claims made by the conspiracy theorist have been proven false. I big one being "a steel structure can't be destroyed by fire". That being said, the 9/11 Commission was little more than a CYA operation. Yes, there is more to it than they are letting on, but the CYA was apparently more about coverying for embarrassment and departmental incompetence than any government consipiracy.
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@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
29 Aug 08
So, you think that our government killed all of it's own citizens just so we could go to war against another country? How much did they pay Osama to make those videos he made? How much did they pay American families to sacrifice one of their family members in the towers or the plane in Pennsylvania? And how much did the families of the emergency responders get? for going in to try to save lives. If you believe in these 'conspiracy theroies' then I suppose, our government had something to do with Hurricane Katrina wiping out New Orleans? And how much has our government had to do with all those wildland fires that wipe out entire communities? I suppose our government 'ordered' up catastrophic tornadoes to wipe out entire towns? My point is, I could take any one of these events and put my own twist too it and show how it was the governments fault, how they were involved in it, in some evil plot. I think you've been watching too much Youtube! I just have one last question for you or anyone who believes in these 'conspiracy theories', if you believe in all this propaganda, why are you still living in this country? in a country that is so full of terrible people?
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• United States
30 Aug 08
Since you 'know' sooo much from youtube, tell me this, if it was all a 'conspiracy' dreamed up by our own government, then why is that they have taken the steel from ground zero, melted it down and built part of a warship with it? It will be named the New York and stationed out of Norfolk, Virginia. If our government did this, why would they want a warship built to memoralize those lives that were lost? Seems to me they wouldn't care about the lives lost.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
6 Sep 08
The entire 911 thing was all about money. Oil money. Our Government cannot go to war without the people approving it. The terrorist thing was to accomplish this and it did. I would bet my sweet bippy those planes were remote controlled. As for those phone calls from people that were supposed to be on those planes they could have come from anywhere. If you think our own government wouldn't do something like this to get what they want you better think again. They planned a bunch of crap like this back in March of 1962 just to get the people's approval for them to invade Cuba. I and probably a lot of other people have declassified Gov documents that proves this. They had all the details on paper but it was never carried out. I figure JFK learned of it and stopped it. That is probably the reason he was killed. People in our own Government have made billions off the Trade Towers, the two wars and a number of other things that resulted from 911. Our Nation is in the process of getting control of the bulk of the worlds oil. We will be in war until they accomplish it or bite off more than they can chew and get a bunch of us killed. Also it wouldn't surprise me to learn people in high places are trying to crash our economy. If they do the big money people will wind up owning most of this country. This real estate market thing was planned to get all the real estate possible into the hands of the these people. Also it wouldn't surprise me to see something happen in this country that would give Bush a reason to declare Martial Law. If he does he can stay in office until the threat passes, which could take years. Bush has made to many people too much money for them to let him get out of office. I will believe he is out when I see another president sworn in, but not before.
• Papua New Guinea
29 Aug 08
Do not blame me for what I have seen on news clips. It wasn't just home-made videos uploaded in Youtube. Those vids are valid documentaries and broadcasted news feeds in the country. You should open your eyes to what is happening. The hurricane and tornadoes you have been talking about is a different thing. I never involved such topics here. And do not make useless and unrelated analogies for the sake of proof. And to answer your question, why are we wanting to live out of the country if we are the good men. We never want to forsake this country on the hands of leaders who never think of the common good.
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@rocker21 (2716)
• India
29 Aug 08
What is the New order?
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• United States
8 Sep 08
ppl colm down I'll can tell you a little bit but mostly you would have to do your own research to prove we where right or wrong; but it really is up too your opinion. The New World Order is about a group of the riches men in the hole world goal is to controlled the ppl in it( one of there plans is to tag and monitor(national ID with sunchipor or chip implant, like animals) the ppl, and then is to kill off a certain amount of the population(I think so one can fight back). This is the information that I found so far but Im still trying to find out more. Well the only way this think of making this happen is by creating WW3 this war will so bad that the people would want to have a One World Government. well thats all that I found on the new world order. to make a more solid then you would need to find the information for your self and see if it true or not. you can check out www.zeitgeistmovie.com and see for yourself but its in parts and not all it is about NWO.
• Papua New Guinea
30 Aug 08
why can't i? because this space is not enough to explain to you everything. and besides how can you even understand what is really happening if your eyes are shut.
@neothegod (208)
• India
29 Aug 08
i believe it was a political conspiracy of high profile people in white house, to get a reason to attack afganistan and then iraq. what it wanted is empathy and a reason to wage a war against these countries and prove its supremacy over the rest of the world also it helped them to have a better control of mid-east, i think the videos clearly indicate that those were not mere passanger aeroplanes. those were more like fighter planes. becoz the moment twin towers were hit there was some knd of explosions within few secs acc. to the scholars who r still working on the videos and evidences. i think more than osama, people in white house should be bought to justice for killing so many innocent lives and separating there families. v have more terrorists in white house than in afganisthan and iraq. truth will be revealed and they will be brought to justice..
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• United States
29 Aug 08
Where was it 'proven' that those were not passenger planes? Was United Airlines involved in this 'conspiracy' too? Oh and as for the explosion a few seconds after the plane hit the towers, hello, those planes were full of jet fuel, which will cause a big boom! I suppose the plane that went down in Pennsylvania was a 'fighter' plane?
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• Papua New Guinea
29 Aug 08
that is so right. that's the new world order.
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@Jourei (41)
• Finland
29 Aug 08
Iv'e also watched several conspiracy videos at youtube, it changed the way i think about terrorist attacks anywhere. I realized, bombings in afganistan is just a war-like happening between some groups. Before that I thougt it was just some one man armys rampageing around. The day i saw this in the news i didn't think it was conspiracy but next day i wondered, how they crumbled only from a plane crash, shouldnt every floor be able to hold the weight of the upper floors?...
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• United States
29 Aug 08
http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/7_World_Trade_Center
• United States
29 Aug 08
The reason they crumbled is because the structure did not hold up to that kind of destruction. The heat with which that fuel burned was hot enough to melt steel. When you have that big of an area destroyed it compromises the integrity of the whole structure. The day it happened, both my father and I kept saying, those buildings cannot withstand that much damage, that was before the collapse (we have both been in construction in one aspect or another, he built homes). In normal everyday situations they are able to hold up, they are also built to give a little with wind, etc. But this damage was done to the very core structure of the building. It was not built to withstand that kind of damage. So that alone does not make it a conspiracy of any kind.
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• Papua New Guinea
29 Aug 08
and how in the world that the neighboring building, Building 7, suddenly collapsed without being hit by a plane? and why do people at the site heard explosions after the collapse? tell me.
@livewyre (2450)
29 Aug 08
Conspiracy theories will always be perpetuated by those that want to believe them, you said yourself that you watched a lot of videos on Youtube about this which indicates that you already had a propensity to believe in this type of thing. You are entitled to an opinion, but I think the desire to believe in this type of activity often overwhelms the logic of the situation. The network of individuals who carried out this attack is traceable, terrorists have claimed responsibility and people have been arrested, hard factual evidence is available yet there will always be those for whom this is not enough and will insist on uncovering their own 'evidence'. Personally I don't really care what conspiracy theorists believe, but my opinion is that the Governments of various countries are guilty of plenty of other real attrocities. Wild conspiracy theories are a bit like the boy who cried Wolf! IMHO, if you try to blame the Govt for something like 9/11 it's not too difficult to show that the theory is a bit crazy - then anything else you bring to the table is just going to be considered a conspiracy theory too... Anybody who places more trust in Youtube than their own Government is always going to believe this sort of thing... I'm not exactly a fan of many journalists but at least they have some kind of responsibility to produce evidence - if you can't find a journalist with some real evidence, then Youtube is only a resource for those grasping at straws.
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• United States
29 Aug 08
Did you read it?
• Papua New Guinea
29 Aug 08
Did you ever read the 9/11 Commission Report? It includes nothing but unverifiable facts. Thanks anyway buddy.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
29 Aug 08
Let me see, the Conspiracy theory. George W. Bush gets to be president, the Democrats are very very angry, they figured that the Florida ballots were rigged. So they have to get the Republicans blamed for it, so they pay some Arab no goods to bomb the Twin Towers. Yes works for me. The reason is why did the terrorists not bomb the Twin Towers when Clinton was president? Yet you would go and say that it was the republican's idea, that there are many of them in the CIA. Had the twin tower attack happened during Clinton's term, you would have blamed it on the terrorists themselves. As for the professionally done videos on Youtube. there are some amateurs that should have been professionals. It does not mean it was done courtesy of Fox News. The guy may have worked in the camera room and knew how to shoot the picture. So it is more likely that the Arab terrorists hated the states so much that they planned on their own to bomb the Twin Towers, or maybe they could not do it without the help of the "Evil White Man."
• United States
30 Aug 08
It's not real hard to put together a 'professional' looking powerpoint presentation.
@union6 (326)
29 Aug 08
this does need alot of investigation, after seeing films like Zeitgeist they make very strong arguments and point, many of witch people still try to side away from and change the subject. I have done a lot of reserch into the London bombings on 7/7 and there is a lot, lol and i mean a LOT, of contradictory facts and evedence which the UK goverment denies or just avoids looking at. I take facts and evedence to tell me what happend on such days like 7/7 and 9/11 rather than simply taking exactly what the goverment says, and i feel that if everyone did that and put enough presseure on the goverments then mabe a full indipendant and thourgher investigation could happen, it would help alot more rather than simply beliving what the goverment says and cast off any other version of events as 'being un-patriotic', you can still love your country and question the goverment at the same time. As for the whole 'New World Order', i take that with a pinch of salt, the NWO is somthing right-wing groups have always used as a way of striking fear into the people and getting them to side along with them, i think the first recorded person to say that a 'New World Order' excits was Hitler.
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• United States
30 Aug 08
conspiracy theorists make a point in trying to prove how it's all a scam but then they don't present a clear picture of everything that happened. i think some parts of it may have been deliberate... the absence of any airplane debris on the pentagon crash is intriguing, as well as the immediate solicitation of video cameras near the vicinity. the crash of WTC 7 also didn't fit right with the sequence of events if it's all just caused by plane crash. the knee jerk to suddenly conquer and invade Afghanistan and Iraq is uncalled for and wrong (in my opinion) but that doesn't mean that it's all a government plot
• United States
31 Aug 08
Um, there was plenty of debris at the pentagon. Not to mention the plane and all the passangers that disappeard at the same time (many of whom made phone calls during the hijacking). They even have a security camera that caught the crash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flight77-2.ogg The plane came in low and crashed so hard it all ended up inside the building except for some debris on the ground.
• Philippines
29 Aug 08
In my own opinion i think America wouldnt go to such lenghts just to eliminate people. Maybe the persons who are really responsible for this killings are making some deviations as to allow the people to have doubts and start questioning the paths that they are taking towards uncovering the truth. they are slowly planting the seed of doubts. And now the ball is on are side. are we to believe these or not. But If this conspiracy theory is true, then we are all helpless, we wouldnt know when they would launch another staged attack to achieve their goal of a "new order". We wouldnt be safe then no matter where we are. What a nightmare this would be for all of us even if we dont live in the US.
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@strossuss (125)
• Philippines
29 Aug 08
well I think its not a well-planned conspiracy, could America really do that thing to the Americans? I think the 9-11 attack is more of a well-planned terrorism, to show the USA and the world what the terrorists are capable of doing.
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• Papua New Guinea
29 Aug 08
yes buddy. we're on different sides though.
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@rainmark (4302)
29 Aug 08
I never yet see the videos about 9/11 but if you were talking that it was a well planned conspiracy that wasn't good, maybe people killed in 9/11 attack and who ever planned it, behind that conspiracy must paid. Killing innocent wasn't right just for the sake of that bloody New order!
@urdley (17)
• United States
29 Aug 08
This is interesting; i hope someone can give proof of this. Good question. Cash is a good reason. A new order maybe. Very sticky.
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@sconibear (8016)
• United States
29 Aug 08
why don't you ask the 3000+ victim's surviving families if they think it's a conspiracy? you say The US government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks to fulfill some "new order" crap....well, where is it? you're not even from this country so you don't even know the shock and sadness of that September morning. and you're an idiot if you watch YouTube videos as if their actual news.....i suppose you beleive the hunters that "captured Bigfoot" too. but i guess your government probably pumps you guys up with all kinds of propaganda. Rock On dude.....U.S.A. FOREVER!!!
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• Philippines
30 Aug 08
I think 9/11 is a terrorist attack, why would the united stated would attack its own country. The terrorist is proven guilty with its actions, they accept that they are the responsibility for the attacks. I watch many youtube videos, but I too watch many that many hoax out there are crawling. But still the investigation is better to pinpoint the suspects inorder the justice will prevail
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@jadegoat (89)
• United States
29 Aug 08
Dude????? I think you need to read more real news and stop watching so much youtube. If you really believe that crap, I have some mississippi swamp land to sell you too. This is why We will elect an inexperienced president who will lighten our military and give Iran and Russia the go ahead to blow Israel and The US up. You believe in that then you should easily believe Nostradamus and his prediction for 2010.
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• United States
29 Aug 08
Hey jade, ya think he's started packing, or whatever ya do for the 'end' of the Mayan calendar? I'll throw in some oceanfront property........in Arizona!
@crabboy28 (153)
• United States
29 Aug 08
If it was a well planned conspiracy then it had to be well planned. Then that would also me we went to war with a country just to go to war with them and that is stupid. If you ask me I think the real suspect is America for going along with this war for as long as we have.
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@sumpter (214)
• United States
29 Aug 08
I think you are very true. I do not know if we will ever find out what happened and what the exact cause was for those terrible attacks. I am a native New Yorker and was there that day. No matter what, if it came out that America had something to do with the attacks, God help us all.
• United States
29 Aug 08
I watched some videos on youtube and it seems that it was a conspiaracy. I believe its a conspiracy.
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• Indonesia
30 Aug 08
i think it's a conspiracy that bush government made. they use the 9/11 disaster to attacj a moslem country like iraq and afganisthan.
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