GrandParents are NOT babysitters

GrandParents - they arre not babysitters
@BriNbai (912)
United States
October 2, 2008 9:20pm CST
The other day I went with my mom to visit an older friend of the family. She lives in a senior citizen comunity and she loves it there. When we sat down and started talking to her she started telling us that she was exausted because she had been babysitting her 5 grandkids the entired week. I guess her daughter in law decided to go back to work and thought it would be fun for the kids to go to grandmas when she was at work. This woman is 80 years old. Her grandkids are very rough with her, and she has a hard time taking care of them and her husband. She was telling us that the reason why they took her to her place was because the daughter in law and son decided that paying a babysitter would be too much money. Meaning they are not even paying her anything at all. She also said that about 4 of her friends had similar problems but none of them wanted to say anythign becaause they want to help their children and dont want them to think they dont love their grandchildren!! Also some of the parents arent going to work, they go out and have fun and leave grandma and grandpa with all the resposibilty. Since we know the son of our friend my mom had a talk with him and he will be putting the older kids in day care and the younger ones will stay with my mom . Have you heard of this happening before? I got really mad because grandparents already raised their children and they deserve to have a peaceful laid back life. Do you agree?Do you anyone in this situation? OR do you disagree?
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@crazydaisy (3896)
• Canada
3 Oct 08
I had a daughter that 32yrs I seen my first grand son when he turn 1 yr. now he is 10years old I have not seen him since then. Then my grand daughter was born I seen her then at the hospital and that was it. she is 8yrs. I don't why my daughter dose this to me I still got all there Christmas presents. waiting for them to pick up. cd
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• United States
3 Oct 08
That is terrible! How often do you talk to her? Maybe you could meet up for dinner or something and work something out. I think it's sad when kids don't get to know their grandparents. My mom & dad used to take my kids out on Saturday evenings to dinner and they would go shopping and just spend a few hours together. About once a month they would go over and spend the night at mom & dads house. Sometimes myhusband and I would join them but mostly we didn't get invited! LOL It's funny because they are 23 and 18 now and they visit their grandparents at least once a week. They are very close. I hope things work out for you and you get to know your grandchildren! Good Luck
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• Canada
3 Oct 08
I try every thing I could thing of. She did drop in to see me in July 28th and then on 29th. She said she would bring the kids to see me in 3 weeks. which never happen.I don't know why. cd
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I am so sorry to hear about this,your daughter is being selfish and I am sure that she will realize that. Lets hope this happens sooner rather than later. Also I think in a couple of yrs your grandchildren will be old enough to visit you on their own and they will visit you. Dont give up hope :]
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
3 Oct 08
Yes, that happens all the time. I have never once asked my mom to watch my son, she has always volunteered to do it. I have always told them if it was too much to let me know and I would find someone else to watch my son. My brother on the other hand doesn't seemed concerned about how tired their 4 years old makes my parents.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I am so glad to hear that you are so considerate of your parents. Grandparents will always want to watch their grandchildren because they enjoy it so much. But it should be to enjoy not a responsibility. I hope your brother realizes that having your parents watch a 4 yr old isnt good for either the child or the grandparents..Thanks for responding
@devilsangel (1817)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Well maybe you don't want to watch or babysit your grandchildren but that doesn't mean all grandparents don't. My in-laws actually ask to babysit the kids. It's not an everyday thing but when my husband and I need some time to ourselves or when things come up, they are one of the first people we ask. My parents use to watch the kids too before they moved. Neither set of parents had any objection to watching the children. So again maybe YOU don't want to babysit but that doesn't mean every grandparent in the world doesn't.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
25 Nov 08
I am a grandparent and I read this comment and also went....huh? It is completly different when you are babysitting on occassions and have the options of saying no if you are not up to it. Also there are some grandparents that are home and really do want to do it...in fact ask to. That I find is especially the case when both grandparents are alive and together and do not have many other obligations. I see all too often these days is single grandparent either far too old or still young & working & raising children of their own and being put in a position of "feeling they are obligated to help". It is a lot of pressure. I could clearly relate to your post.
@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Ok, when I read your response it seriously made me laugh..LOL Did you read my post at all?..First off I don't have grandchildren, I'm 21. Second I wrote about one of our family friends being taken advantage of by her son. If your in-laws are ABLE to take care of the children and they enjoy it, then there is no problem. It becomes a problem when an 80 yr old grandmother has to babysit 5 kids under the age of 8. Do you get what I mean now? I didn't mean to insult you in any way,the fact that your parents CAN watch your children is a huge blessing.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
3 Oct 08
My Mother told us point blank that she had raised her children and to never decide to use her as a babysitter. The problem is that when you do it for one, you have to do it for all, so you're better off to say they can visit, but they can't live here. Some people are young grandparents like in their 30s or 40s, if they want to get involved in that, that is one thing, but I have a friend who is 73 years old and taking care of her greatgrandchildren. Luckily, only about 4 hours a day, but she's having a rough time. Luckily only one child at a time and her kids and grandkids are having financial problems and one couple has cancer to contend with. So how do you say no if they can't afford a babysitter and if they don't both work, bills won't get paid,they could become street people or when someone has cancer. So you have to say that from the start and stick to it, I'm not a babysitter.
@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
My mother told me this too. SHe told me that when I have children she would love to have them over for visits whenever but she was not going to babysit for anyone. And I dont want to take advantage of her in the future. Thanks for responding!
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@seeths (413)
3 Oct 08
Actually i wouldnt prefer them always baby sitting and whe get outr things done by going out.This is kind of bad and I feel we are using them.I very rarely make my son be with them unless and until it is an emergency work and I have no alternative other than be with themOtherwise I make sure that I take him where evr i go. Regards
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I don't think that its bad for your parents to watch your children if its only once in a while. Not only do the grandparents enjoy it but children do too. They thing is you just have to make sure they are up for it and be sure that they dont have such a hard time with the kids otherwise a couple of hrs doesnt hurt anyone :]
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@fasttalker (2796)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I couldn't agree with you more. It seems so unfair. I see so many grandparents raising their grandchildren and although I respect them I feel it is so unfair to them. My children are grown now but when they were younger they were in daycare while I worked. One time my youngest one had broken his arm and had surgery on it and my mother asked me if she could keep him until he got his cast off. She was worried about him going to daycare with it. And I told her it would be fine as long as she allowed me to pay her the same as I paid the daycare. She did and as soon as he was out of the cast he returned to daycare. It gave her a little extra spending money and he certainly enjoyed the pampering! LOL I think grandparents should have the opportunity to enjoy their grandchildren and spoil them. Not raise them!
@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Thanks so much for such a great answer. It is extremely unfair to have grandparents raise their grandchildren. they have already raised their own children and to ask them to babysit on a costant basis is really innapropiate. But all grandparents do love to have their grandkids over for a visit and they do love to spoil them but I think it should stay as a visit more than anything :]
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@carolbee (16230)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I think the quality of care an 80 yr. old woman can give 5 little kids might be limited. For the safety of all involved, it would be wise for the parents to find an alternative babysitting situation. Putting the kids in daycare will be costly but they also will be learning as they play. I'm all for daycare and pre-school. Nothing is a replacement for the parental love kids need but when both parents need to work, there are other options. Some of the senior citizen communities don't allow kids in their facility. Guess it depends on the state and their laws. I don't have the luxury of babysitting our grandkids since they live in another state. I would be more than happy to help our daughter as needed. But, I am also 20 yrs. younger than the older lady that stayed with her grandkids. I can still get on the floor and play games with the kids. We are expecting another grandbaby in about 4 weeks. She will live in the same area where we are so I offered to help out when our daughter needs me. I wouldn't want to make a career from babysitting since I love my freedom but am anxious to be with the new baby.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Congratulations on the new grandbaby! I agree fully, if you are able to help out your daughter then you should,taking care of a newborn is alot of work. I am sure she will apriciate the help :]. Yes my friend told me she felt guilty because she thought she couldn't give all the kids all the attention they deserved and take care of her husband. Thanks for your response!
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I agree with you, it shouldn't just be taken for granted that the grandparents are a built in babysitter. Any time that my daughters stayed with my parents, it was because she asked them if she could, or I didn't have any other choice, but I always asked, if they had said no, then I would have figured something else out. The said part is, your mother had to say something to the son, he didn't even think anything about it, and for them to just expect her to take care of 5 kids at her age, that is just stupid and insensitive on his part. But, it was free babysitting. I mean any parent is all for helping their children if they can, but it should never be taken for granted that they will always be able to help. I'm glad for her that your mother took it on herself to say something. This does happen too often, and grandparents raising their grandchildren, for whatever reason, also happens too often.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Thank for responding, Its good to hear that you were considerate of your parents. I really didnt mean to say that grandprents babysitting was a bad thing, but I guess some people took it that way. The problem is when they are being taken advantage of and taken for granted.And I totally agree, it does happen way too often.:] Thanks again for responding in such a nice way.
@schulzie (4061)
• United States
4 Oct 08
When my first child (who is now 17 years old) was born my mother-in-law watched him. She loved doing this. As a matter of fact, my mother-in-law and father-in-law asked to have him spend the night all the time. This was really nice for my husband and me because we got to have alone time alot. Sometimes it seemed he was there more than at home. It was nice for them because they got to bond with him and he got to be with his grandparents. It was very convenient for all of us because we lived across the street from one another so we could just go over at a moment's notice. My mother-in-law watched my son until he was 3 years old. When he turned 3 she had a massive stroke and became partially paralyzed. She was not the woman she was her entire life. She lost all short term memory and became incontinent, etc. I am thankful that she got to enjoy him before she could not care for him any more. It kept her young, both her and my father-in-law. My children all look like my husband, especially my oldest son. For them it was like their son was a baby all over again and I really think it was like they were re-living his childhood through their grandson. He never lacked for attention or love. It was a wonderful thing. After my mother-in-law got sick then my mother took over watching him. My mother has lived with us since I was pregnant with my 17 year old son. She does not pay us rent, we buy her everything and she watched him and our other 2 children. We needed a two income family otherwise I would have been a stay at home mom. I now have 4 children - the youngest is 3 years old. When I was 8 months pregnant with her I decided to become a stay at home mom for the first few years of her life. I still am at home, I have the 4 kids like I said from 17 down to 3. I love being home with her. Unfortunately my mother got sick as well and has dementia and hardly knows who anyone is anymore. She is in a nursing home now for the past year. That was a difficult situation too as I was watching her and my children, but she requires so much care nowadays and wanders off etc, that I could no longer take care of her. So, anyways I look forward to the day when my children are parents and I can watch my grandchildren. I think it is wonderful when grandparents watch grandchildren. They are raised with the same values as the parents, brought up with the same language/languages - we speak English and Spanish, and you don't have to worry about your child being molested, etc. I think it is a win-win situation. But it should not be a forced situation. It should be agreed upon by all parties. [b][i] Have a great day and happy myLotting!!![/i][/b]
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
25 Nov 08
I think what might be the difference in your situation rather than many others is that your mother-in-law had your father-in-laws help in this. My mom & dad also really, really wanted to babysit my oldest and I let them. They would not take money so I bought them things that I knew they could use. My mom did not work and my dad 2nd shift and was home much during the day to help out. When my dad passed, my mom did have to go out and work and everything changed. She was not able to watch my other kids nor would I have expected her to. I think it all depends on the situation. More and more grandparents are like us now...single and working and I think that they feel obligated because our own parents were able and willing to do this for us and then it becomes too hard and they feel too bad to say anything. My kids are also so spread apart. My oldest is 32 with 2 children and my youngest is 14 and still at home and I work full time. If my daughter were desperate, there is no doubt in my mind that I'd take those kids and forfeit my own free time to help out but I'd rather not.
@drakesuyat (1063)
• Philippines
3 Oct 08
although one Filipino culture i consider best is grandparents taking care for their grandchild/grandchildren while parents are at work. but for an aged person to look for 5 kids would really be exhausting. i would still prefer my parents or in-laws to look for my kids while we are at work (in case they're willing to do so but with a helper of course) because the concern is different from someone hired to do the job who in anyway is not related to us. if my parents or in-laws in any case cant do the job, i would always prefer a relative to look for them.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Thats very true I am filipino too and I would also preffer that a relative watches my children(in the future) but I dont think its fair to make elderly parents watch that many childrens. It does depend on the situation and whether your parents are able to do it or not. thanks for responding!
@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I agree and I disagree because it depends on many factors. We asked my daughter to come home for a few years after she got pregnant and the father ran off to parts unknown. We fixed up the basement as an apartment so they could have their own space and we watch the baby while she works. Yes, it cuts into our freedom, but when she's not around, we miss her, too. It was our choice and we would not give it up for a moment. We love seeing her grow up and will be sad when they leave. But, on the other hand, if I were having trouble watching her, it was making me ill and wearing on me to the point of exhaustion, she would have to find an alternate babysitter. Does your mom really want to watch them or just feel obligated? If she is not really wanting to do it, it's not fair, but some grandparents love doing it. It just depends on this factor. Is she compensated for it? When my mother-in-law watched my niece and nephew for my sister-in-law, my sister-in-law paid her as it was 5 days per week.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
It was a really great thing that you did for your daughter, I am sure that hving her move back home in this situation is the best thing for both her and her child. My mom loves children and she is being paid for it, not much but she doesnt mind it. ALso I know my mother can handle the younger children shes 42 rather than our 80 yr old friend . ANd I think she really enjoys it since we dont have any children in the house and she tells me she used to get bored at home.Things have a way of working out :], thanks for your response!
@heaven11 (1159)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Hi Brinbai Yes I agree with you in this siutation as a matter of fact I dont agree that anyone should leave theier child and ecspecially 5 children with anyone 80 or above for one its too much strain on the grandparents and obviously in this case he hubby is sick so now shes taking care of 6 people plus herself and what would they do if something happened to her while the kids were thereas for them not paying her anything thats wrong no most family does not expect payment but this is an elderly couple who most likely lives on a fixed income so now shes not just feeding 2 shes feeding 7 and with the price of grocreys this day that has got to be hard on them
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Yes, I felt horrible when she was telling us what was going on. She was very stressed out about her food bill too. Mostly because she didnt buy food that was appropiate for growing kids. I am glad that she was able to get out of the situation :] Thanks for your response!
@jackiew (915)
• Canada
3 Oct 08
i agree with you immensely-my mother would gladly babysit for me if she was not doing anything or if i wanted to wait until her evening activities were done.My mother is a very busy woman-she goes non stop-if we wanted to go out in the evening-she would say i will be up around 10 if you want to go out but i am not giving my night up for you until that time.I respected her for that and i never expected her to give her time up to watch my boys.If she was free she would take them at anytime but if she had things to do-no way
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Thanks for responding, I am glad to hear that your mother can speak for herself and that she is an active woman. :] Unfortunatly my friend was a total pushover when it came to babysitting and her son took advantage of that.
@jackiew (915)
• Canada
4 Oct 08
its terrible how many children grow up only to take advantage of their parents
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@rickiely (257)
• Australia
3 Oct 08
Well it really depends, if the kids and grandparents enjoy it, i would think they should be able to do it. If the grandparents are somehow forced to, then no. When i was young and parents went to work every morning, i was dropped off at my grandma's house and looked after by my loyal grandparents. They enjoyed having me around and i enjoyed being with them too.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Thanks for your response!..I do agree with the fact that different situations call for different measures. I guess I should have specified that grandparents babysiting is not a bad thing, but I was just so upset that my friend was being taken advantage of. But youre completely right, if the grandparents enjoyed it and had no problems doing it then its completely fine.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
3 Oct 08
I agree in this situation. It isn't fair for grandparents to be imposed upon like this; a person should not be taken for granted. And 5 children for an 80 year old is entirely too much. (On the other hand, my MIL assumes when we have kids that she will get to take care of them and speaks enviously of those of her friends who babysit - we'll see how she feels about it after we have kids. I think she's remembering the fun bits and ignoring the crying).
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I am glad that your mother in law is so excited about taking care of your children I am sure that she is more than capable of doing so. But it seems like she is on the outspoken side so I am sure she will let you know if she cannot handle it :] thanks for respoding!
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
3 Oct 08
I do agree that grandparents deserve a rest. However we are living in a society where both parents need to work to make their ends meet. I would prefer to leave my son with my grandparents than with complete strangers. I do feel more at ease to leave my son under the care of my mother. I do feel safe like that.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Very true, we do live in such an economy that both parents need to work. And if your parents are able to take care of them and they enjoy it then its a good place to leave your child. Thanks for your response!
@savypat (20216)
• United States
3 Oct 08
As a grandpaarent I can tell you that we want to help our family anyway we can but we resent being taken advantage of. Especially with children who have behavior problems. We took care of our grandchildren when they were ill, like chicken pox and couldn't go to child care. But This was so their parents could continue to work and was necessary so they could get by. But it was hard on us and the kids who didn't feel their best and didn't like being away from home. It really didn't help our relationship with them, but it did show them that families stick together and help each other.
@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I do agree that grandparents love to help out their families . And families love it when granparents are happy to help :] I am glad youre able to help out with your grandchildren and youre giving them a great example.
3 Oct 08
I agree Grandparents are no babysitters but in case they live wid u and u are working isnt it that they look after ur kid rathar than babysitters?
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
YEs that makes sense, as long as its not too much for them and they enjoy baysittign
3 Oct 08
really its worst situation and i never encourage grand parents to still look after kids .or engaged with any other work.........brecause .all they worked way inn their life ..and made their grandeors for settle ment.but happens they neglect them complete ....ita bad on ur human culture............i pray god to punish them seriously who really do this very severely
@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Thanks for your response . I do agree with you that grandparents have worked their entire lives and they deserve to kick back and enjoy their grandchildren.
• India
3 Oct 08
Such situations are becoming really common these days. The younger generations need not pay them,they'll take care of the kids and help out in some household work also. Mere exploitation of the affection the old people have for their loved ones. This is not fair and a person with true conscience will never do such things but people have become so narrow minded these days,confining their views and ideas to THEIR comforts and THEIR happiness. Old people are actually in their second childhood stage of their life. Just being without troubling them and giving them atleast some MORAL SUPPORT can bring a lot of difference in their lives.
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@BriNbai (912)
• United States
4 Oct 08
This is so true and it is a sad thing to think about. So many other grandparents are being taken advantage of by their children.Thanks for your response