Is Sarah Palin A Mistake For This Nation?

United States
October 2, 2008 10:00pm CST
Okay, I imagine that there are some of you out there who will want to chastize me for the title of this post. But before you do, please hear me out. I am not trying to achieve any kind of political agenda here and I am certainly not trying to dissuade anybody from voting the way they feel they should. But here's the thing...Sarah Palin has a family that has a lot of issues right now. She has a teenage daughter who is pregnant and will be facing the challenge of dealing with a pregnancy at an age when she should be enjoying her adolescence. Worse still, she has a young baby who suffers from Down's Syndrome. How do you put all of that behind you to run for the Vice President of the United States? I realize that she has a husband and that she has an obvious support system, but let's face it....nobody raises a child better than a mother can, and a baby that's going to struggle so much in life needs his mother and how is she possibly going to be there in the early years of the baby's development if the next four years of her life will be spent filling the role of the Vice President. Let me also clarify that this is not a sexually discriminating comment, at least it's not meant to be. I think that it's great that, for the first time in history, we have the potential for a woman to be in one of the highest seats within our government. I just think that family should come first, and when you have the kinds of issues in your family that she has, maybe it's time to evaluate priorities. You might ask if I'd feel different if she were a man, and I would have to say honestly that I don't think I would. Parents need to be there for their kids, especially kids that are sick, and she's just not going to be able to be there. Okay, cast your stones if you so choose, I've said my piece....
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@redkathy (3375)
• United States
3 Oct 08
No stones from me! I do not understand how you can say this. I believe every child needs a mom and dad. So how many vice presidents have been in office who haven't had children? Do you think the children don't need their dad as much as mom? While I agree that mothers are the ones with internal nurturing instinct, I don't think that the family will be lacking due to her position. Special needs children do require more attention and care. She seems to have a very supportive family, and extended family, meaning parents and other relatives whom I am sure would be there for her and her babies. I know my family is there for me and always have been. Family makes a difference. Now I'll pull the God card on you... see no stones LOL. I believe if God has called her to do this than nothing can or will change it. It will be successful, done for the benefit of others, as sacrifices always should done be for.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
That's fair, and thank you for your response. I do not mean to imply that men aren't equally important in the role of being a father to their children, and I certainly think that, if the situation were reveresed and it was Sarah's husband running, I would say the same things...I am not against parents running for office. What bothers me is that this particular candidate has a child who is so young and suffers from something so serious.
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@redkathy (3375)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I fully understand your position. I still disagree. I don't think that her child will not be cared for properly, or that the child will be better off if she didn't take the job. I believe we never know why things happen as they do and that each person is responsible to carry out what they can for the greater good. This is Gods wish for us. I believe if elected, she is the type of person who can and will, without compromising her children.
@anniepa (27240)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Redkathy, am I to take you to mean you think God decides who will lead our country? I really don't think God cares who wins our elections. I sure don't believe Jesus really told George W. Bush he should be President! Annie
• United States
3 Oct 08
I must say don't make her baby seem like he has cancer or cerebral palsy or something. There are plenty of people with Down's syndrome that are perfectly healthy otherwise. Did you happen to see how many kids were with Joe Biden? And Obama has two small girls that are going to need their father just as much as their mother. Sarah's daughter is going to be getting married to the father of her baby, which isn't that young, really, when you consider our grandparents were getting married at the ages of 15 or 16. I think her kids are well-grounded and she will be fully able to be there for them. She's smart, and isn't afraid to stand up to people in Washington. I think it's great that we have someone that won't be so easily swayed by one party or the other, or who won't be pushed around by the politics that everyone else so easily backs down to.
• United States
3 Oct 08
You make some fair points...and I will say again that I agree that men in office should be as responsible as parents as women are. I realize that Barack Obama has young children, and Joe Biden has a family as well...what I am getting at is just that there is such a young child involved here...and a young child who does have an illness. Yes, I realize that down's syndrome is not cancer and that in many cases people just learn to live with it, but I just wonder if this is the time to be focusing on something as large as the presidency after just having a baby...and not because she's a woman. As an example, before I had kids, I worked quite a bit as a musician. I played 3-4 nights a week and was always gone. After my daughter was born, I cut way back on my music so that I could be there for my kids. I knew that my absence would be noticed and I wanted to make time for my family. It is not a lack of ambition, just a focus of priority....I dunno, just rambling now, but do you see where I am going with this? You do make some valid points and I do get what you're saying.
• United States
3 Oct 08
Yeah, I get what you're saying, I've always said that when I have kids my career takes a backseat to them. By the way I'm a musician too! =D I just think that while she will obviously need to be there for her child, I think her husband plays a greater part in the kids' lives than most dads. Kind of a Mr. Mom thing, you know? I think she'll be fine. I'm glad you're brave enough to post political discussions these days!!
• United States
7 Oct 08
Hello again. Thanks for the follow up to my comment to your comment ;-). I do not tend to be a very political person and my comments here were not intended to make a statement against the party....but I appreciate the vote of confidence for posting a political discussion.
@owlwings (40037)
• Cambridge, England
3 Oct 08
What you are saying, really, is that any politician worth his/her salt has to be focussed and totally committed - wedded, even - to serving(?) his or her country/constituents. I think I agree that that is how it should be. Politics is (or should be) about conscientiously representing and serving the people you are elected by (and also those who didn't vote for you but, by the democratic process, you, nevertheless, represent). Unfortunately, many politicians only see it partly that way. Politics today often has rather more to do with egotism than with the concept of service. In the end, it is up to every individual to decide what is important in their lives and whether they will be successful in fulfilling their commitments in all of the areas. That confidence is also, of course, open to public voting. As voters, we are offered a number of candidates (let us be glad of that!). Our job is quite an onerous one and, unlike the situation where a worker is hired to work for a company by people who are (usually) trained and experienced in choosing the right person for the job, the 'hirers' in elections are people who are mostly untrained, inexperienced and with diverse personal agendas. It can get to be a dogfight and is, in any case, practically impossible to balance the issues of policies against the issues of job suitability. The current voting procedure leaves a great deal to be desired but it is the best tool we have, even though a somewhat blunt instrument. Casting stones (pebbles) was actually the way that they used to vote in Roman times. You would pick a pebble of the appropriate color and drop it into a jar. Your metaphor, I know, was of another kind but I have changed it with a smile If you are concerned that Ms Palin may not be able to balance her priorities successfully as VP, then by all means don't vote for her, even if you are a Republican. Personally, I would trust her to have thought about her priorities before running but I still wouldn't vote for her (if I had the option) BECAUSE she is a Republican and a self-confessed 'pitbull with lipstick'. Pitbulls are not the nicest of dogs (and I guess that she was aware of that when she made the remark), why would lipstick make them any nicer? They are not noted for listening to their masters (the electorate, in this instance). In any case, I am more in favour of the Democrat/Liberal ethos. My stone is cast.
@owlwings (40037)
• Cambridge, England
3 Oct 08
My personal opinion is that someone of the status of Sarah Palin has already committed most of her life to politics and is well able to hire excellent care for her child (and very likely does so). That is, no doubt, her personal choice and, though you may question and condemn that, it doesn't actually make her a less worthy person to serve her country as VP. Her family may suffer and you may think that deplorable but it doesn't actually make her a less worthy politician, any more than Mr Clinton's over-publicised indiscretions with Ms Lewinsky made him a less effective President. If it made him less credible, then that was really a problem with 'popular' morality, not with his ability to do the job.
• United States
3 Oct 08
I don't think she was saying she wouldn't listen to those above her when she made the pitbull statement. She was referring to a popular joke about hockey moms being very tough and protective of their children. For a woman to be in such high position, I don't think it's reasonable to be someone that everybody's going to love and say "Aw she's so sweet!" As you've seen in the media, especially these days, if a woman shows any sign of emotion, she's clocked as having a breakdown, or not able to handle it. Republican women are under constant scrutiny for every little thing. The reason she did poorly in Katie Couric's interview was first of all it was an edited interview put out by a liberal network. Don't you think they're going to edit out the good stuff and try to make her look stupid? Secondly, Couric threw out a lot of gotcha questions worded weirdly so that even I would be like "What??" And NOBODY is ripping Biden for the stupid stuff he's always saying, and NOBODY is tearing up Obama for only having 143 working days experience, he has only voted "present" for the majority of his voting record, has not reformed ANYTHING, and really hasn't done a whole lot of anything in his years as senator. Palin has changed so much in Alaska in the short time she's been governor, I'm excited to see what she will do in Washington.
@twoey68 (13651)
• United States
4 Oct 08
If I'm understanding your opinion correctly, your not opposing her b/c she's a woman, a mom or b/c she has kids but b/c she has a child with Down's Syndrome. I can appreciate your concern and having known a family with a Down's Syndrome child I can agree that it is alot of responsibility. I look at it like this...she has been raising 4 kids while following her chosen political career and has also been raising the newest baby...the one with Down's Syndrome. I don't see that changing just b/c she's running for VP. The fact is she is obviously strong enough to handle it and as long as she can be there for the child it shouldn't matter. Ask yourself this, if either McCain or Obama get in office and, God forbid, something tragic happened to one of their kids would you expect them to step down as President to be there with their kids 24/7? You can't control what happens with your kids anymore than you can control whether or not your baby is born with something like this. As for her daughter getting pregnant, kids will do what they will. Whether she's running for VP or not her daughter is going to make her own choices. No matter how good of a parent you are sometimes your kids make bad decisions. I do give them credit for being up front about it, for her daughter accepting the responsibility and for the family standing by her. [b]**AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~[/b]
• United States
7 Oct 08
Yes, you are right on the mark. I have no issue with her being a woman or a mom at all...I just know a little about the demands placed on the VP of the United States and I also know that a child with Downs Syndrome requires a much greater deal of attention than one without....and when you are gone 7 days a week attending to the duties of the Vice Presidency, are you really able to make the commitment to helping your sick child? Perhaps I need to clarify that I am not taking a stance against anyone, man or woman, running for an elected position if they have a family...I just know for a fact that a downs syndrome child can be a 24/7 responsibility and I wonder if the timing of all these things is just too much. That was all I was ever trying to say....thank you for the great comment.
• United States
3 Oct 08
this is the only thing i have to say. mccain/palin believe country first. it kind of makes sense that she would run for VP because she believes country first. i think that it should be family first. if everyone put their family first then the we wouldn't have to worry about country first.
@rocketj1 (6960)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Then who would run the country?lol
@jstmarfz (1499)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I don't think she is. People trying to focus on her personal life especially with her daughter. It is not her fault if her daughter got pregnant. She is only a normal mother that tried to discipline her daughter. But its her daughter's choice to be pregnant. And people should focus in that issue but focus on what can she contribute to the nation if ever she wins as the Vice President. We all have problem inside our home and we all have solutions for that, people just judge of what they see. We are in modern generation now. I consider men are equal to women. She is just running for Vice President, if you are aware there are Women President in other nations. Media were the one causing more problem about the issue of her daughter. What's the big deal? She's not the only teenager girl who got pregnant in a young age. It just happened she is the daughter of Palin. That was why people love to talk about it and just can't stop.
@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
3 Oct 08
There have been many women in history who made great governmental officials, and or leaders of countries. Their countries probably didn't do such a great job of putting them under the microscpe, like it is done here in America. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the Palin families move to Washing D.C. for the time that she is there, to be her helpers. And tsk - tsk - all this bru-ha-ha about women running for President or even Vice President - - could it be that in about 4 - 8 years there'll be "2" women battling it out for the presidency? Ya just never know. Personally, I like Mrs. Palin's straight forward answers, and that she's a bit on the spunky side. I wish her well, and this will all turn out just as it should. Lastly - what is it about "God telling someone to do something in this day? Maybe if we believed more - "we'd" hear His voice speak within us as well. Just a thought.
@anniepa (27240)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Actually, yes, I do think Sarah Palin is a mistake for this nation but for none of the reasons you mentioned. By the way, this is not the first time we've had the potential for a woman to hold this high an office, Geraldine Ferrara was the V.P. candidate in 1984. Anyway, I think we all should make our own choices regarding our families and children. It may be your opinion, which you have every right to, that a woman with a special needs child should be a stay-at-home mom, or at the very least have a much less demanding job than V.P. but that's something only she and her family can decide. No stones from me, you can be sure of that! Annie
@owlwings (40037)
• Cambridge, England
3 Oct 08
I completely agree with you, Annie. I am sure I heard that pebble of yours clink into the jar!
6 Oct 08
I have to disagree with you. lot of families have children with downs syndrome or a pregnant teen.. Very few can afford for one the parents to give up their job to stay home for the child. In Palins case, her husband will be able to stay with the children . It does seem you are being sexist here.
@rocketj1 (6960)
• United States
3 Oct 08
This vp candidate has had more of her dirty laundry aired about her family than any other. ALL families have issues. We just happen to see hers. Do you remember when the BUSH twins went through their partying stage? I don't remember anyone calling for the President to step down and take care of his family. Are you worried that 5 kids might keep her from doing the vp's job or the vp job keeping her from doing her parenting job? I would think that the latter would be her own decision to make. I'm sure she talked this all over with her husband. Did we ask any male President's if they've talked this over with their wives? I think this country is so silly. We spend all this time telling girls that they can do anything that they want and then when they do it we tell them they should be ashamed of themselves. PS I'm a stay-at-home mom and I'm tired of the fighting among women. We don't need to make working moms feel badly so we can feel good. We are all given choices and we are all trying to do what God has intended each of us to do. We all walk different paths. We have to stop guilt-tripping each other and support one another. We are raising the next generation together.
• United States
3 Oct 08
While not trying to be rude, Sarah Palin scares me a little. I watched some of her past interviews, and I watched the debate. I am not comfortable seeing her voted into office. I just would expect someone that is a vice presidential candidate to be prepared to answer the hard questions or at least maintain their composure and know how to respond appropriately when not knowing the correct answer. I'm scared to see what would happen if she is elected with Senator McCain.
• Philippines
3 Oct 08
I'm no American citizen but I am actually appalled by dirty politics which is universal. I have read those criticisms against Palin and maybe some have made their points but I just can't agree to all of them. Palin's family must never become a liability to her, no family should be. Every politician does have a family of their own and taking care of them is a priority but when one became a government servant, he/she is just adding another priority in his/her life and not replacing anything at all. It's the same with Palin. I admire that woman because even with the fact that her family will be exposed, she was still willing to go through it all because she wanna serve her country. Maybe I'm reading too much "Jeffrey Archer" novels, especially my favorite "Prodigal Daughter" which is about Florentyna Kane becoming the first woman, immigrant and wealthy President of the United States but I wanna give Palin a chance as well.