Where's the Human Emotion?

@anniepa (27236)
United States
October 2, 2008 11:46pm CST
I don't have a link for this yet but it's something that really, really disturbed me in the debate tonight. Joe Biden came pretty close to breaking down, which he's done in the past from time to time, while talking about losing his wife and daughter and nearly losing his sons. It then switched back to Sarah Palin and she never missed a beat and went right back to her script about McCain being a maverick or whatever it was she said. Someone said she may have said nothing because she didn't want to intrude on a private moment but the camera was on her and she didn't show on bit of emotion, nothing at all. I swear I don't mean this to be an attack or to be "nitpicking" at Palin but there has been so much said about her likability, her "folksy" personality being so appealing to some people and how she's someone just like us, someone we can relate to and somehow I think if all that was totally genuine there would have been at least a glimmer of compassion in her expression, SOMETHING there. Am I alone in noticing this? Any thoughts? Annie
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@irishidid (8563)
• United States
3 Oct 08
You're trying to make her out to be a cold heartless person. She isn't. Sometimes people don't say things out of respect, sometimes they don't act but they do have feelings for any person. I watch how she is with Trig and it is clear she dearly loves that baby. I look for that kid to go beyond his disability because of her love for him. I don't see her as a woman who is cold no matter how hard you want people to believe it to be so.
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@anniepa (27236)
• United States
3 Oct 08
You don't know any more than I do what kind of a person she really is, do you? I just did as I always do here on myLot and started a discussion about something that had caught my attention just as I'd do if I were in the physical company of others when it happened. I simply thought it would be a topic worth discussing. I just took notice that there was no apparent acknowledgment or reaction to a fellow human being's obvious pain. Nothing more, nothing less. As far as I'm concerned we're all people first, with what that encompasses for each of us as individuals, and Senators, political candidates or whatever we may do for a living further down on the list. Annie
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@spalladino (17925)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Are you on some kind of medication that you have run out of Kennyrose? Your attacks have always been ridiculous but you've really fallen off the deep end in this thread. I hope you realize that, the more you post your outrageous garbage, the less you help Palin.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
who let the dog out? lol
@Sillychick (3279)
• United States
3 Oct 08
It strikes me as odd that Hilary Clinton was criticized for showing emotion back at the beginning of the primary race, and now Palin is being criticized for lack of emotion. The argument with Clinton was that you can't let emotion get in the way of performing your job, you need to maintain a clear head. That is exactly what Palin did. She kept her focus on the task at hand. So it appears that no matter what a person (or woman) does, she gets criticized-- there will always be someone who thinks she was wrong. I can't help but wonder, would the reaction be the same if it was a man who showed no emotion? Probably not, because that is what we expect from men. But for some reason, when a woman does not exhibit what we consider to be 'female' characteristics, we think there is something wrong with her.
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@cbreeze (1207)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Hilary Clinton's ratings went up after that show of emotion. It humanized her to many people who wanted to see a more personable side of her.
• United States
3 Oct 08
Yea, I notice that too and thought the same thing when it happened. I do think Sarah Palin had so much on her plate though to tackle this debate and that was probably just a distraction for her to get her off script. I think it would of be ok if she gave a quick condolence to Biden but maybe Biden would not even want it who knows, he comes off as a tough guy and everytime I see that from him it does make me sad. I saw an interview with him back when he still had all black hair and when his deceased wife came up indirectly his reaction was exactly the same.
@anniepa (27236)
• United States
3 Oct 08
First, thanks so much for your kind words above, I appreciate it more than you know! As I said, I don't mean this to be an attack but it did get my attention. I'm a soft-hearted person myself so things like this tend to get to me a bit. I'm not really sure what I'd have done, if anything, but sometimes something a small as a simple gesture or even a facial expression can speak volumes. You're right, it might not have been the best idea for her to have said anything, but maybe a very brief pause would have looked better? Annie
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@ZephyrSun (7385)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Sorry I didn't notice I had tears in my eyes as he was talking at that point. It was so amazing that even after all these years it is so near his heart that talking about it still brings him to tears. He must have so much passion. No wonder he is so for the middle class and also a Democrat. He really showed his compassion last night. I'll have to see if I can find a clip.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
Very honestly, I watched the debate and that moment struck me hard. I'm old enough to remember Edmund Muskie breaking down during the 1972 primaries over newspaper attacks on his wife, and how vicious the reaction was to that, how many viewed it as a sign of weakness and instability making him unfit to be president. I was 13, and I still remember being both bewildered and angry that a man would be considered weak because he showed emotion. That momentary break in Biden's voice showed more genuine emotion than all the folksy 'you betcha' winks that Palin threw out all night long. I didn't even notice Palin's reaction - or non-reaction - to it, and frankly don't care how she reacted or didn't. Maybe I would have noticed if she'd commented or expressed something in reaction to that - it would have made her more likable to me, because so far, I haven't seen a lot in her that's likable.
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@pismeof (855)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Annie,Firstly if you don't mean to be nit-picking,Then why do you bring it up.And Second if you look so closely you should have noticed the hard swallow before she continued.It was Sarah Palin that voluntarely said that Biden's wife was in heaven.
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@anniepa (27236)
• United States
4 Oct 08
No, it was Sarah Palin who said Biden's current and second wife will "get her reward in heaven" for being a dedicated teacher. You must have been watching REALLY closely if you saw a "hard swallow" before she continued. I didn't think she had a whole lot of time for that, but that's just me. No, when I start a discussion here it's not done to nit-pick. When I start a post here I look at it as if I were with a group of people in person, bringing up things to discuss that I've seen, heard or observed. To my, myLot is a group of people, many of them my friends, with whom I enjoy discussing various topics. I'm alone most of the time when I'm online, all the time right now while my mother is in the nursing home for PT following a fall, but when my mom is home the types of things I post about here are the same things she and I would be talking about. They're the same things I talk about when I'm among other family members, friends and associates. My short answer...lol...would be that I brought it up because it happened and it caught my attention and wondered if I was along. Annie
@stephcjh (32328)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I watched the dabte also and it brought a tear to my eyes when Biden almost cried. I think it was rude for Sarah to just skip it by like it wasn't even an issue. I am for Biden and Obama anyway but was undecided until I seen that.
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@anniepa (27236)
• United States
4 Oct 08
To me, even beyond being rude was that she didn't even seem to feel anything. I know everyone reacts differently to situations like that and some people do "freeze" as another poster said, but don't even those sincerely freeze at least show on their faces that they've just heard something very sad and touching? Annie
@evanslf (485)
3 Oct 08
I don't quite know what to make of this. On the one hand, yes Palin could well have shown some compassion and emotion, I think if she had stepped towards Biden and comforted him, personally I think that would have gone down very well and I don't think she would have been seen as weak for doing so. On the other hand, when some people are presented with these kind of emotional situations, they tend to freeze and don't know how to respond. It may well have been that Palin fits into this category (I certainly have frozen in the past when faced with these kind of situations, but that doesn't make me a heartless person, nor does that make Palin so either).
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@anniepa (27236)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I'm really not saying she's a cold, heartless person because obviously I don't know her personally so how could I come to that conclusion? I also understand that some of us do tend to freeze and not know just what to do or say in these kinds of situations. I could be totally wrong about this and about Palin, in this instance at least, but as I've said, I really took notice of this during the debate and a few commentators on TV also mentioned it so I thought I'd see how others felt. I guess the main point I'm trying to make, or started out trying to make, is that Palin is obviously running on her ability to make a connection with the people, to show how authentic and sincere she is, etc. but it sort of seemed that this incident was a bit out of character for the image she's trying to project. Annie
• United States
4 Oct 08
well i have to say i agree i think that palin sounded like she was on an ifomercial.Like maybe she was reading a script. I know i dont want my country ran on script!! She really had no emotion throughout the whole debate. At first i like palin but after this debate my decision has changed immensly. I know that she was just kinda thrown into this unexpectantly but she needs to be able to answer the questions asked not just give an answer. She really gave no answers, no plan at all. I really dont know what she was tryng to do but i dont think it was working in her favor.
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@soccermom (3200)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I watched last night with an open mind like I usually do, and at the start of the debate I thought Palin actually might have had a chance. I've been trying so hard to put my finger on what it is that drives me nuts about her, and last night I looked at my husband and said 'Remember the Church Lady on SNL?" He groaned and I explained, she reminds me of a cross between the Church Lady and Mrs. Poole from some old 80's sitcom. (I can't remember the name of it). I'm a soccermom, and I can't relate to her at all. I can tell you for a fact that most of the time the soccer games don't involve political discussions, most of us look at it as a break, a time to have meaningless discussions and occassionally gossip with other moms. I thought she was emotionless too, and had a hard time staying on topic. It was apparent she was trying to place the focus on her strong suits, which I don't blame her for. But it also proved that Biden is a well rounded competent choice. When he almost broke down over the loss of his wife and daughter it really hit home to me. And I thought the point he made about being a single dad was beautifully articulated. I'm proud I will be voting for him and Obama.
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@cbreeze (1207)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I was a little taken aback by that as well. When the camera switched to her, I did kind of expect her to extend some kind of humane gesture before getting back on her roll. I'm not sure what I expected her to say, but I thought the moment was awkward when she didn't acknowledge it.