What do you think of Sarah Palin's performance in the debate?

@shamsta19 (3232)
United States
October 3, 2008 3:21am CST
I had to ask because of my last discussion regarding the presidential debates. Can anyone honestly and with a straight face tell me Governor Palin "won" this debate? I found her to be extremely evasive of questions asked of her and resorted to attacking Joe Biden and Obama's campaign. Just wanted to hear everyone else's perspective on the subject.
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@Taskr36 (13928)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I thought it was a solid win for Palin. Biden did well and voiced his points, but I thought she was much stronger in the debate and did a much better job of speaking to the people. Biden tried to press how experienced he was and frankly, it was just kind of boring to listen to him. My wife commented on how everything he said was kind of "in one ear, out the other". Biden didn't lose this debate, but I feel that Palin won it.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I was remarking to some friends of mine and I said I believe Sarah Palin won some points with her appeal to the "people." At the same time she seemed out of touch with the needs of the middle class. Biden kept stressing the point of financial reform for the middle class and persons earning less than $250,000 a year. Palin on the other hand, seemed like she was trying too hard to speak to the people and still not realize to whom she was referring. I have to commend her effort to reach out though and her frank speech.
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@Taskr36 (13928)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I'm a bit surprised to hear that. I thought she did an excellent job appealing to the middle class. I do feel her and Joe Biden are much more legitimate with their backgrounds when saying they understand the middle class. Obama and McCain are both excessively rich and really don't understand the struggles although Obama has done well to pretend he understands.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
And Palin and McCain don't have money? Let's face it we're dealing with the elite no matter what way you cut it. Palin just didn't convince me that she really felt the middle class woes even though she may have attempted to address it.
@spalladino (17927)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Because the bar was set so low, it appeared that Palin did well simply by not screwing up. I agree that she was evasive but she has been practicing the fine art of the "Insert Your Talking Points Non-Answer" at debate camp, I'm sure. I counted 5 times during the first 15 minutes or so of the debate where she answered a question by going off in a completely different direction so I stopped counting. This is not an unusual or an unethical debate strategy but if it's done too often the candidate comes across as being uninformed, which Palin did. I did like the friendlier atmosphere of this debate. I do think that Palin pushed the down home good ole girl next door "I'm just like you" thing a bit too much. If she IS just like me, I will see that for myself...you can't force the connection. I don't recall George Bush coming out and telling folks that he was a down home kind of guy...it came through and people connected to that. As for what Palin had to say. I did not like the "white flag of surrender" remark and I believe that that cost her last night. She either does not have a good understanding of the situation in Iraq right now as far as the Iraqi government goes and their readiness to take on more responsibility, or her opinion is that it's not over until she and McCain say it's over. She misrepresented the natural gas pipeline in her state, she tried to spin John McCain as the lone maverick (and if I hear that word one more time.....) who sounded the alarm and pushed soooo hard for Fannie and Freddie reform in 2005...all by himself...when it was really Senator Chuck Hagel's plan, which McCain didn't join in support until the following year. So, no, I don't feel that Palin won the debate but I do believe that she didn't do any further damage to John McCain's campaign.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
Palin also said, "near and dear to my heart" several times. That was beginning to get to me.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
She did try to run it into the ground but still commend her for trying to reach out to the "soccer moms" and "joe jacks" I guess.I almost forgot that White flag remark. I was uncomfortable with that one too. As if we should just continue with this bogus war? They kept talking about how important it was for her to separate their politics from that of the Bush administration and there was another incident where she failed in that regard. She still didn't do too bad and I guess that is the most accurate judgement of her performance.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
She did seem as if coached to steer away from those difficult questions and focus on energy or the mistakes of the Obama camp. Like she was definently coached but she made the ol coach proud last night I suppose.
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@irishidid (8119)
• United States
3 Oct 08
She never once attacked Joe Biden. She corrected him on a few things as he corrected her on some. That is not an attack. Both did very well and I was impressed with both of them. Obama's campaign is questionable in my opinion. He needs to explain why he's so deep in Fannie and Freddie. Neither one won the debate and neither one lost.
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• United States
5 Oct 08
I think she did as well as anyone.. and they all 'attack' one another! And/or one another's campaign and party..
@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
6 Oct 08
Precisely
@fec139 (804)
• United States
4 Oct 08
She can sit and study and rehearse her "lines" and delivery, but she is still an idiot. As someone once said "you can put lipstick on a pig........." She is still trailer trash and if the idiots in this country elect McCain, they get what they deserve!
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• United States
4 Oct 08
What do you know about her that would cause you to call her an idiot, or are you just parroting what you've hear others say?
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@fec139 (804)
• United States
5 Oct 08
I don't PARROT what other people think! I hold 2 BAs and an MS! I can think for myself, thank you! I only have to listen to Sara Palin to know she's a moron.........well, golly gee!!!!!!
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
6 Oct 08
Golly gee
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@ngaspero (851)
• Italy
3 Oct 08
European media have been surprised about what Palin did yesterday, she was better then they had expected, but they wrote that at end the winner was Biden, he convinced more then she did, but she was anyway very good Nun
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@ms1323 (260)
• United States
3 Oct 08
That was my opinion as well. She was surprisingly articulate, although, both of them did some real issue evasion. This was the first VP debate I have ever watched and I must say I was little disappointed. I would have liked more info on THEM and their own positions, not their running mates.
@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
They definently spent more time talking about their running mates than themselves. I was surprised at how Palin did in the end even though I think Biden "won" the debate.
@ngaspero (851)
• Italy
3 Oct 08
I did not watch the debate live and I only sow part of it, what I read was int he european media, and also the pool maded after that goes in that direction, Palin was good but Biden did a better job and was more preparate
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@ladym33 (11009)
• United States
4 Oct 08
She did OK, she held her own, but she didn't answer questions which was a little frustrating. She also was not much of a pitbull. She didn't fight back when she should have, and while Biden continually attacked John McCain she did not really go after Barach Obama. She did OK, but she could have done a little better.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
4 Oct 08
She was obviously outmatched but she did hold her own. That's not where a lot of her criticisms are coming from now. It's her inexperience and mannerisms. And I still feel though she tried to connect to the middle class, she really doesn't.
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• United States
4 Oct 08
I could say a lot more but I'll Keep it short and sweet. Biden looked REAllY tired at the end of that debate. He had a battle. And what was up with his eyes? Do they reflect any light at all? The "low expectations" came from the left and a few Conservative pundits. The only poll that matters is on Nov.4. I look at polls kinda like a 5th grade teacher looks at a pop quiz. "News" organizations use them to see how well they are getting their message out. Then they use the results to affect their next round of stories.
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• United States
4 Oct 08
I will add this. I think Gwen Ifill did an outstanding job of Moderating, Despite,Or perhaps because of the worries of Bias. I heard one guy put it well. If it was a football game and the Referee had a favorite team, that's pretty common. You can't get away from that. But Ifill's book meant she had MONEY on the game. And that's a different story. But she did a great job anyway.
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• India
4 Oct 08
She has a charmingpresence, and can be a good crowd puller, but she is no VP material.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Said the same. She is good on camera speaks very heartfelt words, it's her sincerity I question though. She sounded unsure. I like how she spoke "to the people" but she tried to milk that way too much.
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@newtondak (3950)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I believe that the statistics are saying that fifty-one percent say Biden won and forty-nine percent say that Palin won - not much of a margin there. In my personal opinion, Palin did a much better job than Biden.
@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I think she did better than expected but didn't win the debate.
• United States
3 Oct 08
Well I personally do not think anyone "won". yes palin did well but then so did biden. They were both very perpared and know what to say. I really did not learn anything new from either side and I really do not think it changed anyones mind on who they were going to vote for on either side or undecideds. I do not think Palin attacked anyone. She stated her side of things, Biden stated his. They correct each other as they felt needed. It was nothing earth shattering. YOu pretty much knew what was going to said as soon as the question was asked. Both sides stayed on script and played it safe. Who won depends on who you are voting for. If you like Obama, you think Biden won, if you like McCain you think Palin won. Personally I do not like either of the two party choices. But that is a whole different discussion.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
That's really why I posted this discussion because I thought Palin had messed up. Felt like she stumbled through a lot of her initial questioning and kept changing the subject. I also felt she was out of touch with those same soccer moms she was so quick to reference. When thinking it over O felt she still did okay but those facts still remained. So I have to honestly I felt Biden scored a win here. I wondered if Palin supporters would honestly tell me they felt otherwise after seeing how she performed. I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
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@Mare73 (1335)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Sarah Palin is just a cute face and nothing more. She has no experience she kept turning every freaking question into something about energy. That's all she knows and they will not get my vote.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Okay then.
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@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I guess it would depend on your definition of "won". Most have said that as long as she was still standing then she would win. She had several gaffes but they weren't as bad as what they have been. She didn't really answer two questions but, she overall did good since most we expecting her to do awful.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Precisely.
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@Sillychick (3282)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I didn't watch the whole thing, but from what I saw, I thought she handled herself very well and did answer the questions as much as Biden did. I also thought that she didn't attack Obama any more than Biden attacked McCain. In fact, it seemed like they were both doing their share of attacking each other's running mate and not enough speaking positively of themselves and their own ideas and thoughts on the issues. In the beginning especially, but throughout as well, she seemed very nervous. And it's no wonder. She was under a lot of pressure to perform well, and I think she pulled through. She sounded articulate and spoke well. Biden tripped over his words a few times, though.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
She did seem nervous. Honestly I think she did well. Didn't sway my vote but I still have to commend her now. She still was diverting her answers a lot. Biden didn't answer a few questions either and yes, he did stumble a bit (one time even calling Obama, John McCain ) but I think he is very well spoken much like his running mate.
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• United States
8 Oct 08
Palin? I hear she did ok with what she needed to accomplish but so did Biden. Personally, I don't think Palin is an asset to McCain. One cannot attack Obama for his lack of experience and choose Palin as a running mate. It is contradictory to logic, and by that I mean hypocritical.
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• United States
4 Oct 08
I work at night so didn't get to hear the debate, but the people who are Republicans think she won it and the others (that I've heard) said she did fine.
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@Bd200789 (2994)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I agree with you. I think Joe Biden won, and according to the polls most people agree, too. She never once answered the questions she was supposed to answer, and instead started talking about energy.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
I beleive she did very well. I think the media was expecting a big flop which turned out to be a disappointment for them, especially for Keith Obbermen, Who's profession in journalism is rather a sour taste in my mouth. Along with his humor. All said, Sarah Palin did what she had to do. But I don't think it was enought to secure a turn around in the polls, for John Macain
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@my2boys (821)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I actually think that she did a pretty good job. I am not too crazy about either one of the presidental candidates so my vote is going to be for whomever i think has the best VP.
@rckayla09 (113)
• United States
4 Oct 08
I have to admit that surprisingly Palin did okay during the VP debate. But it was so unlike her natural-self with Katie Couric and Charles Gibson in their interviews with her! Hmmm, maybe that ear piece she was wearing at the debate helped to coach her words even if she still doesn't make any sense. She also did not fully explain policy issues or how a McCain/Palin ticket will change Bush's failed policies of the last 8 years; nor did she fully answer the questions the moderator Ifill was asking. Overall my opinion of Sarah Palin is that she's an insult to all women who have fought long and hard to banish that flirty, "oh gosh sir I didn't know!" wink-wink, smile, and the man will give a woman anything they want behavior. A perky, flirty, wind-up Barbie doll is all Sarah Palin is. And I'm truly insulted that McCain would sneakily pick her to gain Hillary Clinton's votes. Well McCain, it didn't work one iota and this is coming from an INDEPEDENT voter -- Obama/Biden for America!
• United States
5 Oct 08
Which policies of Bush failed? Was it his policy to keep radical Islam out of this country after 9/11? Was it his tax cuts that resulted in record numbers in the stock market and unemployment rates that are the envy of the world and only worsened when the Democrats gained control of Congress? Is he a failure because of President Carter's bill to get ill advised homeowner's loans for people who couldn't afford them and which President Clinton expanded on and which members of Congress, like Barney Frank, insisted was a good bill even when warned of the consequences? Was Bush a failure because he inherited a Congress made up of Republican wimps and Democrats that couldn't get over Al Gore's 2000 Presidential defeat and were determined to "do nothing" to support Bush even if it was good for the country and who made it their mission to thwart him at every opportunity? Is Bush a failure because Al Gore is a whinny cry baby and instead of accepting defeat graciously (like Richard Nixon did in 1960 for the good of the country) turned Congress into an angry mob? Exactly what are the Bush failures? So far no one has explained those failures to me.
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• United States
5 Oct 08
Al Gore accepted defeat, he had no choice, but he did not accept it graciously and has displayed his anger over that loss time after time in his speeches. What did Jeb Bush have to do with the Supreme Court? Regarding the Supreme Court, the only thing they did in regard to the 2000 Presidential election was make Florida obey their own state law. They did not give the election to Bush or allow him to steal it. Every time the ballots were counted, Bush came out on top. As far as Bush's second term, he won that overwhelmingly. Our current financial condition is not due to any of Bush's policies, but because of ill advised policies concocted by Carter with his "Community Reinvestment Act", expanded upon by Clinton and endorsed by the Democrats in Congress. Unfortunately for Bush, the birds came home to roost during his watch and he will forever be blamed for it. Regarding the war in Iraq,there is no blood on Bush's hands. He did what he had to do based on the intelligence report he was give and after the attack of 9/11, how could he have done anything less? I'm thankful Bush recognized the threat Islamic extremist posed to our country and did something about it. He has been the only President courageous enough to act and since then we haven't been attacked. Bush is not perfect. He has made mistakes, but I admire him because he has the courage of his convictions and doesn't base his decisions on popular opinion or what the world might think of him but on what he feels is the right thing to do. Finally, you never answered my question. What are Bush's failed policies?
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
6 Oct 08
Not to mention we are in a RECESSION did I mention that? Are you tremendously rich? Maybe that is why you feel the way you do. Come on down to Earth with the rest of us.
@lvaldean (1613)
• United States
3 Oct 08
The were both interesting in their blunders - Lets see Palin in her Civil War General vs Current General naming blunder Biden in his Article I vs Article II blunder re: Executive v Legislative branch Those were too obvious to ignore. Biden toned down his tendency to bluster and bombast which was a good thing as he could have appeared to be a bully had he let the full force of his knowledge and experience loose. Palin amped up her "I am just like you" appeal to the masses which was nothing less than annoying. She was well rehearsed though on some of the key issues and thus came across as at least knowledgeable. I don't think either of them went after the other side all that much. From a debate standpoint I think Biden took it. Overall though Palin was not the abysmal failure that many expected.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
With his cheese eating grin too! He didn't bully her as he could have but I felt he should have taken this more seriously than to just laugh at her for her unprofessional approach. That is actually the thing that scored her some points in my view. I agree she came across as rehearsed and was reading fro the cue. I cannot fault her for holding her own in this debate though. These things are really trivial to me as the election is really a popularity contest or there would be no need for debate. America wants to see the candidates duke it out so to speak on stage and I KNOW that alone makes these minstrel acts important to the voting process. I felt Biden stumbled as well too. And like stated above no one has any idea what to do about the economy I guess. Pray for the bailout to help (NOT!).
@lvaldean (1613)
• United States
3 Oct 08
You mean the pork out? Have you seen what they have added to that bill to try to get it to pass? It is disgusting. Thankfully it failed. We, as a people and as a country, must get clear. We must take back this country. We must stand up and be counted or we count for nothing. Are there things about Obama that cause me concern? There are indeed. But there are things about every politician that cause me concern. Do I believe that any President will be able to undertake the problems of this country and fix them in 4 years? No I don't, but I do think that fresh blood will make a start. The real problem is not he is sitting in the Executive office though, the real problem is who is sitting in over in the Legislative branch of government. They are the ones that we need to remove. They are the ones that need to be challenged. They are the ones that are the most harmful to this country. These lifetime members of the Legislative branch of our government who are voted into office time and again. These are the men and women who should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington on rails. The President has a term limit of 8 years, or two terms. This is right and good. Those who serve in our Legislature(s) have no term limits, many of them serve for life. They are corrupt, how could they not be? We the people must take back our country and our government. We must limit the government and the corruption within our government. We must eliminate waste. We must eliminate abuse of power. We must eliminate lifetime office holders. We must eliminate the source of abuse as well, the lobby's and their minions the lobbiest. Seek public office, wonderful. Do it because you seek to serve your country. But don't make it your job for life.
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@shamsta19 (3232)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I have said this numerous times. The president with all his military power is but a puppet figure for the rest of the government. Those old farts who keep getting reelected over and over will continue to institute the same initiatives they have clung to since they were elected in the first place. With this type of attitude how can our government reform with no new ideas and ways of thinking. And no there is no way the president can fix all of the problems we are facing in four years. He can only maybe put some ideas into motion that hopefully filter down into future presidencies.