New job less pay, or old job better pay but no promotion chance

@ch88ss (2270)
United States
October 6, 2008 5:01pm CST
What would you do? I been given the opportunity for a new position. The position is more challenging and room for growth (at least they say) One big problem: The salary is less than my current one and their yearly review and increase is only 3%, where as I currently get 5% yearly. All in all the salary will be less by $3000 the first yr, second yr compared to my current job I be making less by $5000 Every year I will be making less unless I get a promotion which will probably not happen in the first two year. But this new company (which is paying less) is offering tuition reimbursement and offer training to their employees for work related courses I am puzzled, why I am even considering a position with less pay. Vacation pay is reasonable and even better after six years with the company My current employer I am working at the corporate office The new job I am only at one of their branches, and their corporate is in another state. What would you do? Would you take a lower pay in hopes of gaining a title promotion opportunity? Considering this is going to be a new job for me I will also have less time for my daughter’s therapy session. I need some advice, I have to give the new employer a reply by tomorrow morning. What should I do? Should I take the job with less pay and work my butt off to prove myself again? Or stay where I am and just accept no promotion for ten years or so.?
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@Barb42 (4217)
• United States
7 Oct 08
You'll have to make the decision yourself. But with that much salary difference and not knowing if you would even get a promotion for two years, I think I'd have to turn it down. But then, my daughter took a $2.50 an hour cut (adds up to over $5,000 a year) to get a job back near her home (less than 5 miles versus 35) because of the cost of gas and the long rides back and forth. She also has cheaper insurance, is able to be near her kids at school if they need her and can eat lunch with her daughter when she's off work. But they also get a monthly bonus if they make over the amount they made for the same month last year. She got a big bonus this past Friday for September. She traded in 4 weeks vacation for 1 week after 90 days (she's already met that) and 2 weeks the first year and a pay raise then,too. So I guess you have to weigh the cost of leaving this job and taking the new one. Are you doing it just to maybe get a higher position? Or do you not like the job you have? In this world of problems, I think I'd have to stay where I am.
@ch88ss (2270)
• United States
7 Oct 08
Hi Barb, I am glad to read your post today. You anaylze it very well for me. This position, will not be closer to home it will be about the same distance maybe worse because the highway to this part of town is always congested and no carpool lane avaialable. I was not looking the job came looking for me. It is a more promising position but it could take years, and not a gaurantee either, if someone higher retires or leaves etc. So I went for two interviews and thought I was ready to make the change, until they told me today they have Decided they want to hire me, but I originally told them my absolute lowest rate and now they accepted but then I sort of dissappointed with the annual raise. But I like their tuition reimubursement program. Looks like your daughter took a pay for the better. I once took a paycut of of over $17000 per year. yep 17k, I don't know what I was thinking. I regretted that move badly. But it was to be closer to home, but that did not last really long. I had no money to pay the bills, so i went job hunting again.That was 4 years ago. Your daughter really took a sacrfice, 4 weeks for 1 week vacation. Ouch that is a big hit. But I am glad to hear that she is much happier with her decision to be closer to teh kids school, less time on the road etc. (by the way what does she do?) I have not told my employer yet. A part of me is hoping that If I tell them they will try to keep me by giving me a bigger raise, but a part of me know that is not possible since all companys are cutting back. I am so confused right now. The ironic thing, today I got another call from another company that was interested in hiring me because they heard to some reviews from their VP about me. I used to handle some of the other company goods so VP likes the way I handle his shipment and now wants me to join his company. Which I turn them down because they were not willing to pay more. i am going to think about it tonight and maybe tomorrow morning, I will call the new place and tell them that I thought long and hard and realized I cannot take a pay cut. if they can match it then I will take the job. Thank you for taking the time to analyze it so well for me.
@ch88ss (2270)
• United States
7 Oct 08
Oh yes I do hate my curent job, but I figure I will most jobs anyways because I don't want to be away from my kids anymore. So the new or old job will still make me miserable.
@Barb42 (4217)
• United States
7 Oct 08
My daughter loved her job and her patients. She just couldn't stand a woman in the office that was a whiner, 52 years old and never been married, took all the vacation time at Christmas when my daughter and the other girl had children at home, and literally run people off by keeping on their back all the time (hated my daughter because she knew more than she did) - just lots of mess. It took her years to decide to really take the plunge but says now it's the best thing she's ever done! She loves her new job. She is a Technician. She worked for Ophthalmologists at a clinic before. She works for an Optician in his own office now. She does almost everything in the office. He hired her because she has done so much more than the girls in his office. She assisted in surgeries in her other office, but the new DR doesn't do that in his office.
@baileycows (3669)
• United States
6 Oct 08
I am not for taking pay cuts but if you think that it would work out for you then you should do it. But you have to think of how long it will take you to grow. Is it worth it?
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@ch88ss (2270)
• United States
7 Oct 08
I think you are right. It is such a difficult time. Honestly I always hear about people getting a new job because they got offer a better pay, but each time I switch jobs, I seem to do the opposite and my pay is going downward for each new position. I took a paycut the first time when I switch field but now it is similiar field but still got a paycut. So I don't know what happen. Maybe I am not confident with myself and not asking for more. While thinking about this job, another potential one came around but this time I don't know how much. They just call to set up interview Your point is valid, with children and mortgage maybe I should rethink it.
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• United States
7 Oct 08
That is a really tough call. At first I wanted to say why would you take a job for less money. But then I got to really thinking about it. It sounds like you are needing the Challenge of a new job. The thrill of the possibility of advancement and the excitement of something new. Working somewhere for years can bring on boredom and resentment after a while and we need a change. I know in the past you have talked about hating your job and this is an opportunity to get out of there. If the new job will make you more emotionally happy I would take it. But you are kind of in a catch22 because you also want more time for your daughters classes and family time. It is a really tough call to make but you have to weigh the pros and cons of both jobs and see which one is going to be best for you. Follow your gut instincts they usually never fail a person. Best of luck to you no matter what choice you make.
@ch88ss (2270)
• United States
7 Oct 08
Hi Travie I have to give you a pat on the back for being there for me all the time without fail! I appreciate it so much. You are like a friend where you remember everything I been through and consider all those facts when trying to help me figure out what I want. You know me so well already, better than a lot of coworker that I see daily. They pretend to care but don’t really care. It shows you really care and have offered a great deal of great advice and been there to just lend your time when I need someone to chat with. Thanks! A big HUG for you Yes I hated this job and wanted change and need challenge too. I used to be a supervisor and really miss the challenge and satisfaction I got for the work completed. I also need the time for my daughter’s session and family time. So I wish I can split myself in half and be at two places at the same time. I be emotionally happier with the new place, but there is no guarantee too because it will be a gamble too. But the new job will bring on other stressful event, longer hours, more work, and I probably cannot take as much time off for my daughter. I called the new place this morning and told them that since they believe I qualified for this position, I wanted them to know that I could not accept their original offer at more than 11.5% pay cut. But will consider it if they can match what I am making now. At least it be a same match for six months and hopefully I work my way up. What do you think? I called the place was that an ok’ thing to do?
• United States
8 Oct 08
Hi Ch88ss, Thank you for the pat on the back and the hug. I am sending a virtual hug your way as well. I am only doing what a friend does and that is to listen and be there when needed. You are a good friend to me as well and I appreciate it. I think you have made a wise choice in asking for at least the same money as you were making. That was a big pay cut and sounds like way more responsibility and time. If you get the job that is great and if you don't I truly believe it was not meant to be because something better awaits. I think you did the right thing. Good luck to you and I will keep my fingers crossed.
• United States
9 Oct 08
It sounds to me like you want to take the job yet you are afraid of the out come. It is easier to stay with what you know then to take the chance on something new. It is difficult to figure out what you need to do because of your daughters needs. The old job works with you and gives you the time off. Did you explain the situation with your daughters needs to the new job in the interview? I have no doubts that you are more than able to do the job and they obviously think you can to or they would not have came to you. I am not sure how the job offer came about. The tuition assistance they offer would for sure be a good thing and you have said you would like to go back to school to better yourself. You also said though your current job paid okay but the new one is less. Can you live on less a month? It is a hard call. Is this company one that has a good reputation? been in business a while? If it is fear about your abilities stop that and weigh the possibilities and the facts. Stop all the worries and just listen to your gut instinct. If you feel that this job is the right choice for you don't let fear hold you back. If you feel that this job is not right for you don't hesitate to back out. Best of luck to you my friend and I pray that it works out the way you want it to.
@myliezl0903 (2731)
• Philippines
7 Oct 08
well, i guess it would be better to grab the new opportunity., cause you said it is more challenging and you will get promotions., well, for sure in time your salary will increase and what matter is you will learn more when you get into a new job.,
@ch88ss (2270)
• United States
7 Oct 08
Hi Myliez, yes the new job will have add onto my experience. It will be something new and I can learn. But I learn their salary increase per year rate is only 3% which is very slow pace.