Discussion Deleted Without Notice? HOW RUDE!

@acevivx (1566)
Philippines
October 8, 2008 7:54am CST
I posted a discussion on my reaching 500 posts On October 5, 2008 and had responded to some responses and comments but when i tried to respond to another comment or response I couldn't find my posted discussion and just saw that the discussion was deleted allegedly for violation of the rules. In the first place, I just posted "halleluia finally it's my turn to shout-500 posts" and I don't see how that could have violated any rule. In the second place, don't we at least deserve a notification that one of our discussions will be deleted and stating the reason why? Is MyLot exempted from observing basic rules of courtesy? have any of you experienced the same thing and is it alright with you to be treated so rudely?
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@AmbiePam (48116)
• United States
8 Oct 08
This has happened to a lot of people. In the guidelines they ask us not to post about milestones, which includes milestones such as reaching a certain amount of posts. Sometimes people don't get caught, but for the most part mylot finds these discussions and deletes them. And no, no one ever gets notified when their discussion gets deleted. I'm sorry though. It is always nice to get to a mylot milestone.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
8 Oct 08
Thanks for the info but MyLot should be consistent. Before i posted the discussion in question i checked if there were such posted discussions and there are several. I know MyLot has the prerogative to implement whatever rule it likes but the least it could do is serve notice. I checked that rule on milestones which mentions reaching a certain rating and not the number of posts but i guess I didn't interpret it right. I appreciate your taking the time to respond.
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@AmbiePam (48116)
• United States
8 Oct 08
I'm just sorry you lost your discussion. It isn't a good feeling. But if you do see people who have posted about milestones and they haven't been deleted, I've heard at the end of the month when they tally up everyone's money earned, those posts start disappearing. I don't know how many people (a lot of them who posted about something other than milestones) have gotten upset about their discussions just being deleted. I wouldn't think it would be so hard for mylot to notify a person either.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
8 Oct 08
Thanks again. I know I over-reacted but I've gotten over it now. But i really felt bad not because of the deletion but the absence of notification which so many pointed out to me is not to be expected from MyLot.Now i can laugh about the whole thing.
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@zhuuraan (967)
• United States
9 Oct 08
Clearly, you did not read the rules. That discussion directly violates the section in the guidelines about not posting discussions about reaching milestones. It gives a post number as an example of a milestone too. So, instead of complaining about a discussion that was rightly deleted, I'd just get over it and move on. Read and reread the rules and guidelines until they are burnt into your memory, and don't whine about a deleted discussion unless it actually does not violate them. I know how you feel. Everyone has had discussions deleted, some of which should not have been, but your 500 post one is an example of one that was deleted appropriately.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
I was not whining. I was shouting out loud my irritation about the perceived rudeness. While it may not be rude from your end just because its in the rules, its my perception that it is so and not because it is a rule, that it is supposed to be a fair rule. As you and many others pointed out,their lot,their rules. I've gotten over it but my original thoughts about it are not changed. I just don't keep silent when I feel I should stand up and say my piece. Incidentally, while it may have been a mistake not to have " burnt the rules into my memory" I think the major mistake is that i presumed principles of fair play would still come into play. That's a big mistake since what has been impressed on me is that whatever rules are made on MyLot, it is of no moment if these rules are unreasonable or unfair or just plain tyrannical, you comply or get out. Lesson learned.
@pau_79 (793)
• Philippines
9 Oct 08
sometimes its not the author's fault but this stuff really happens
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
Yes you're right, it happens and on MyLot, you have to swallow it and live with it because you are not forced to join and stay. I learned that from a lot of the responses so be careful in your discussions.
@webeishere (36353)
• United States
8 Oct 08
As others have stated milestone discussions are a violation of the guidelines. It will get deleted if a member reports it. If noone reports it it will remain. myLot needs a few moderators that go around reading discussions etc that have been reported. A lot of things get deleted just because it was reported which is not fair. I've had celebraqtory discussions deleted as well and I no longer start them nor respond to them. Too many members here seem to like going around reporting these types of discussions. Unreal. Good luck in the future as well here. HAPPY POSTINGS FROM GRANDPA BOB !!~
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
Thanks Grandpa Bob. It makes me feel good to know there are people out there who got the point i was trying to make. And happy postings too.
8 Oct 08
It is not good to delete snything without acknowledgement of the person it rally hurt the person a lot .before doing anything about the person you must let him know what you are going to do.It also shows the respect towars the person..
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
That's why I felt bad about the deletion but as pointed out by so many of those who responded, their Lot, their rules and if you join you must have to comply with their rules. Thank God, outside of MyLot, you are not condemned without trial even if you are caught in the act. Imagine if the world is ruled by people who set all kinds of rules and impose it on anyone who lives in the world and just punishes whoever breaks the rules without any due process,what kind of world it would be. But we are in MyLot so.....
• India
8 Oct 08
Well if a rule is there one can do nothing about it, but seriously, i wonder how a milestone really makes a difference?
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• United States
9 Oct 08
myself i would think they would be happy your happy. i dont get it. but maybe we need some mkore clear rules. sorry what happen to you . have a good day
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
True mercuryman3a. What's in a milestone?
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
Thanks lauraelrod. I truly wonder what's wrong for posting milestones. It's not like you post a discussion every so often like every 10 0r hundred post. But as pointed out by the rest, itr's their lot, its their rules.
@vidhyavini (6112)
• India
8 Oct 08
Start discussions promoting a milestone, such as birthdays, anniversaries, reaching a certain myLot rating, etc. This is best celebrated via private messaging with your myLot friends. This is the line given in the mylot discussion guidelines. This is available in the Don't s part. Your discussion is violating this rule of mylot. Actually we should appreciate mylot admin for keeping their forum clean. They are just watching every discussion and deleting the unwanted ones. We can't expect them to send a notice to everyone. Per day more than 100 members are joining here. And newbies generally violate some rules of mylot. How can mylot admin manage to send a notification to everyone. Thats really not at all possible. Its just we who are giving them troubles posting discussions against the rules. So we can't expect them to behave properly for our misbehavior. I am saying this in general. Including me. Lol. Some of my discussion have also got deleted. Happy mylotting.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
8 Oct 08
Yes, that has been pointed out to me.Well as pointed out by those who earlier responded they don't have the time and people to watch every discussion and deleting the unwanted ones. Since i saw a lot of posts on the same subject regarding reaching the 500th post. I presumed (wrongly I have to admit) that it was not a violation of the rule. Too bad they could not fully implement their rules so that unwanted posts would not mislead others who never had the intention to violate any rule. Thanks.
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• India
11 Oct 08
How did you feel when you reached your 500th post????? This is a question and so its not against the rule. Some will start a discussion informing that they reached the 500th posts. But at the end they will add some question as I have mentioned before. So in this way, they are sharing their happiness of reaching 500 posts and also going with the mylot rules. In that cases, mylot won't be deleting the discussion. I have personally experienced this. When I start a discussion just giving information, it will get deleted in less than an hour. But when I started a discussion saying that I reached my 1000th posts, I added this question. I felt that I reached a great target. I shared everything that I have faced till now and I asked them whether they had faced such issues. So that discussion stayed. Hope I make some sense. Happy mylotting.
@lingli_78 (12846)
• Australia
9 Oct 08
i know that it happens to lots of people already before you... so you can rest assured that you are not the only one that the discussion get deleted... and mylot never notify anybody when they delete discussions... creating a discussion about a milestone violates the rule... may be that's why your discussion got deleted... sorry to hear that you have to experience this as well... take care and have a nice day...
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
thanks lingli_78. Yes, I have been so informed about deletions and the rules and you can bet that particular rule will stick in my mind. I have gotten over it though and I laugh and joke about it too but it was really so irritating because there does not seem to be any logic to the rule. You take care too and enjoy the weekend.
@Hatley (164756)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 08
my dearacevivx you did not read the l atest mylot rule, no posting about highlights like reaching your 500 post, its in the rules, the last one. the newest one. we had a zillion of those and they are not discussions as there is nothing given your responders to discuss unless you would ask a questin about your five hundred posts. its not rude as you were told in the rules, you must read them, nobody can do that for you.WE are not treated rudely as they exp ect we would do them the courtesy of readidng the rules before posting.you must read the rules, memorize them if necessaryh as the rule is right. there is no excuse for not reading the rules.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
Amen. Seeing as how you have 12655 posts, would you by any chance be on any committee on MyLot? Just curious.
• United States
8 Oct 08
wow. i have never heard that happen. it has never happened to me and i have been on mylot for a long time.
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
You're lucky then for being compliant \with the rules through the years and never experienced any deletion. Good for you.
• United States
8 Oct 08
My 500th post was the same way. Apparently it is against policy to start discussions about mile stons that we reach. I was aggravated for a while, then I went on. "This too shall pass" LOL. I imagine with hundereds of thousands of discussions posted each day it would be extremely difficult to notify with reasoning as to why they had to delete the discussion.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
Thanks doubleloveyou. Yes, I got over it already though at first i really was so irritated and incensed. Now I can laugh and joke about it.
@argie713 (1809)
• Philippines
8 Oct 08
Starting discussions about milestones here in myLot is forbidden. I think it's in the guidelines. You should have read first the guidelines to avoid having you discussion deleted. I have not had any of my discussions deleted before. Just follow the guidelines and there will be no problems.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
8 Oct 08
Good for you that you are quite a stickler for the rules and never had a discussion deleted. Just for the record, it's not the act of deletion alone that I reacted to. it's the act of deletion without notice but i guess you could always say that the rules do not provide that MyLot has to notify. And I could respond by saying that the rules do not also say that MyLot will just delete without notice. Anyway, I appreciate that several MyLotters bothered to respond to set me right on the rules. Thanks.
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@Ldyjarhead (10157)
• United States
8 Oct 08
This is under the discussion don'ts: [i]Don't Start discussions promoting a milestone, such as birthdays, anniversaries, reaching a certain myLot rating, etc. This is best celebrated via private messaging with your myLot friends.[/i] With the number of members we have here posting, myLot doesn't have the staff to notify everyone of each violation or that the post has been removed.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
8 Oct 08
I appreciate your pointing out the rule. It would be much better or even appreciated by MyLotters if they were notified at the same time MyLot found the time to delete especially since MyLot is not consistent and so many post of the same or similar nature abound in MyLot. Thanks fo taking the time to clarify.
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@skysuccess (8882)
• Singapore
9 Oct 08
acevivx, I think we need to be a little adult minded and objective at the same time. I am sure if we are to stay keen in myLot we just need to be ever observant about the preset Terms of Service and its Do's and Don'ts here. Afterall, I am sure you are familiar of the saying that goes: When you are in Rome; do what the Romans do. So, just take it like a sport that your post(s) had been removed in the right and positive mind. It may affect both your post counts and earnings but let's not forget that we can still earn that back with our continous postings here. Besides, an infringement will always be an infringement, others may not be penalised BUT that does not mean that they will meet their fate. It is just a matter of time. Why? Logically looking, there is just a handful of mods here and the population is increasing moment by moment, today we are talking aout 146,000 over members as we speak and this figure is not stopping. So, let's just take this in the right frame of mind and move on - you have reached your 500 posts so do make full use of your available priviledges. Have a nice day.
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
I have gotten over it and I can laugh about it now but it was not the act of deletion which really got me so irritated (an adult reaction I believe) because i am a fair minded person always observant of the rules of fair play and my mistake was thinking the general rules of manking and the principles of fair play automatically applies. Mea culpa, i forgot, this is their Lot and whatever rules they want to come up with, anyone who joins must obey and comply with without question or take the option of leaving MyLot. Well, it is after all a trivial matter and since i am enjoying discussions on the lot, and i am in MyLot, I guess I have to as the Mylotters do. And I didn't react because of the lost earnings since that's quite very very very very minimal to be mad about. I just don't let perceived injustice or unfairness pass by without saying anything but as I said, mea culpa for expecting too much.
@trv231 (152)
• India
9 Oct 08
please tell me whether the deletion can be done by the creator ? is there is any option in mylot. Is there is any procedure for deletion in mylot
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
11 Oct 08
I don't think we can delete once it's posted. I tried several times to delete something I posted inadvertently but i could not. Again maybe that's their rule, that only they can delete what they want to delete. So if you posted erroneously, don't bother your head about it. Just let it be and if it violates any rule, then let them have the joy of deleting.