Why are people so afraid of Barak Obama?

@sharra1 (6342)
Australia
October 17, 2008 2:37am CST
I have seen so many people here going on about Obama being so dangerous that the world will end if he gets elected. For an Australian I find this quite bizarre. What exactly are you frightened of? You have had democratic presidents before why is this one so different? Is it his race? Or is it just that you cannot find anything to attack him with so you pull out the old fear campaign. So are you really afraid of Obama or is all this fear mongering just a stunt to try and win the election?
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
17 Oct 08
It's fear-mongering, no question about it. They know they're on the losing side of the issues, so they're trying to make people afraid of this Harvard graduate. It's gotten to the point where Republican canvassers have literally been advised to try and draw parallels between Obama and Bin Laden when they talk to people. Fear is the only tool they have left. It's truly pathetic to watch in action.
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@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
17 Oct 08
from link one: "According to a report in this week's Time magazine, the Virginia party chairman, Del. Jeffrey M. Frederick (R-Prince William), told Virginia volunteers working for GOP nominee John McCain that Obama and bin Laden "both have friends that bombed the Pentagon." *shrug* it's true isn't it? Unless you believe that ayers is innocent and bin laden had nothing to do with 9/11. Both the weather underground and Al Quieda bombed the pentagon did they not? Is Obama a friend of William Ayers? from link 2: "both have friends that bombed the Pentagon," referring to Obama's acquaintance with 1960s radical William Ayers, Time Magazine reported Monday." Again, just stating facts. Perhaps it is being used in a dirty way, but it is stating fact, no way around that.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
"*shrug* it's true isn't it?" No, it isn't. Obama and Ayers served on a board together. They were never "friends". "A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”" --http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/palin-obama-is-palling-around-with-terrorists/ Compare this to Bin Laden's literal DISCIPLES attacking the Pentagon (by the way, Ayers was not involved in the WU attack on the Pentagon's BATHROOM--yeah, definitely just as bad, right?), and his literal CELEBRATION of that attack. Now tell me it's a fair comparison. If you're capable of doing that, then I will know just how little regard you have for honesty.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
That is way out of line. Of course that should be condemned. But if you read the article it was one guy who did this and the article says, "Several McCain surrogates have blasted Obama for his association with Ayers, but few IF ANY, have invoked bin Laden." It was clearly one person's zeal that got out of hand. It is inaccurate to present this as a GOP strategy. IN FACT, as McCain said in the debate, he has always been quick to denounce those in his campaign that step out of line. He did so on this issue as well. The subheading of that article reads, "VA party leader criticized, Including by McCain team" Hardly a GOP strategy. What the article also said that IS accurate is "bin Laden and Obama both have friends that bombed the Pentagon." While Ayers didn't participate directly, he was involved in that movement and stated that he wished he had done more.
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@ZephyrSun (7385)
• United States
17 Oct 08
In my opinion here are some of the reasons that conservatives are so afraid of Obama. He wouldn't vote on a bill "born alive" because it was already a law and it didn't have the wording for the health of the mother. What an awful man for wanting to protect a mother. He has a "funny name" Oh geeze I forgot when I got to pick my name at birth. I wouldn't have picked one that was so dang common. And, honestly if he would have changed his name to a tradional "American" name all the conservatives would cry that he had something to hide. He may or may not be born in the United States. Beyond popular belief the FBI, CIA and federal government do a better job vetting a presidental candidate than John McCain. If Obama wasn't born in the US it would have already came up since of course Congress had to vote to allow McCain whom was not born in the US to run for president. And Obama did vote for allowing McCain to run. I could go on but there are far to many rumors to debunk. lol It's amazing that conservatives are so afraid of change that they would rather continue on this economic disaster than to bring the United States into the respected light that it use to have throughout the world.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
17 Oct 08
He lies about that bill, too. This is a man who doesn't know when life begins because it's "above my pay grade". He not only voted against it he blocked it in Illinois. People talk a lot about the rights of the woman but when does a baby have rights? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4B3O9uUc-4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCH-jwJk6MI Anyone who is born to two Americans on a base in any country is still an American since military bases are considered American soil. And that is why McCain can run without any question. As far as the CIA and other intelligence agencies investigating Obama, are these the same guys who said Saddam had WMDs? Also, we have a big problem here with African-Americans pulling out the race card and yelling discrimination. Who knows how well he was investigated.
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@ZephyrSun (7385)
• United States
17 Oct 08
pias anyone that can issue an uneducated response such as yours is just amazing. Your party is the one that is saying because Obama was born in Hawaii he is not a natural born citizen. You all are unbelievable!
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@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
18 Oct 08
Really? Are they saying that Hawaii is not part of America? Have they told the Hawaiians? McCain was not born in America? Where was he born? I am assuming he has citizenship since he is also a senator. Yes it is amazing what the conservatives come up with. It is certainly the biggest fear campaign the I have seen and it is based on such flimsy arguments.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
Well I can not answer for everyone but for myself Obama scares me because of his socialist leanings. I do feel he will be elected. I do think that the democrats will pick up more sets in congress and the senate. So basically for the next four years they will have free rein with no checks or balances. The changes that could come from that scare me. But then if you want to know the absolute truth this bail out scares me too. The government will have a lot of shares in all the banks now. Government run banking. That is pretty major but yet you do not see the press making a huge deal out it. Free trade is dying, and the government is getting their hands into just about everything now. All done by a republican president. So their really is not a differnce between the republicans and the democrats anymore.
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@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
17 Oct 08
Really the way the republican have had 8 years with no checks or balances and have used it to destroy the economy by refusing to regulate and stop the greed that is the root of the current economic problem. In actual fact Obama is not a socialist, he is a liberal which is middle of the road maybe even right wing. Free trade? What free trade? America has protective tariffs on home grown produce and that is NOT free trade. You lot are so blind. You think free trade means that you have unlimited access to exploit foreign countries but your home market is protected. That is hypocrisy. You dump your produce in countries like mine and when we try to export you make it hard. It makes me sick. You destroy our local industry by insisting that we have no protection but you protect your own markets. You think you are so superior and all you do is try and destroy the rest of the world who do not have the market to compete with your unfair practices. But you have the affront to call it free trade. How dare you lie like that.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
I am sorry but what I meant by free trade was having the trade free of government. With our government now having controling shares in the banking industry and a lot of the companies as well, that means they have a say in how these companies run. They are no longer private sector companies anymore. I do not see that as a good thing at all. Also, to me Obama is a socialist. I am a very conservative Republican/Constitutionalist. I wanted Ron Paul to be President. The government should be small and unintrusive. Not large and controlling everything. To me Obama stands for more government programs, more spending, more pandering to special interest groups and more earmarks, we do not have the money to do that. Also I do not think we "deserve" anything. Want it? Work for it. IT IS NOT OUR GOVERNMENTS JOB TO TAKE CARE OF US. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. I am very dissappointed in both sides. Both the Republicans and the Democrats have lost sight of what makes this country great and what responsibility is. I am the first to say George Bush has been a horrible president. Our congress has been a "do nothing". But both sides are the blame for that. I do not like McCain (not conservative enough) and I do not like Obama (way too liberal). I do not think either will make a good president, or are what this country needs right now. But no matter what one will be our next president. So I do see things getting better here in America for a very long time.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
17 Oct 08
The housing market is in such a mess because the Democrats forced banks to make bad loans to poor people with bad credit. The price of gas goes up along with everything else and these people stopped paying their mortgages. ACORN was deeply involved in this and they used bully tactics to get their way. Obama was a trainer for them and he took some banks to court to force them to make these bad loans. The Republicans and McCain called for more regulations on the housing market years ago but Congress wouldn't pass it. We have had a Dem majority in both branches for the past 2 years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaABV1CWXug
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
17 Oct 08
I'm sure that there are some who don't want him because he is half black. But there are just as many if not more who want him to win because he IS half black. I was married to a black man and couldn't care less about his color. I think he is too inexperienced to be running for president. He has a poor voting record. I think he is a socialist and has surrounded himself with too many radicals during his lifetime. HE spent twenty years sitting in a church listening to a preacher/friend/spiritual mentor spew out crazy stuff about our government and preaching Black Liberation Theology. Then lied and said he never knew, a man he said was like his uncle, had ever said these things. He pals around with a man who is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who bombed many places in New York. But he says he didn't know about his past, then that he thought he was rehabilitated, and still hasn't told the complete truth about the extent of his knowing him. He was friends with a big time crook in Chicago named Rezko. He was deeply involved with a radical group called ACORN who is under investigation by the FBI for voter registration fraud. He's lying about his relationship with them. He interfered with the election in Kenya for a man who is suppose to be his cousin and who is a socialist and crook. He wouldn't vote for the Born Alive Protection Act. Babies who survived abortions were taken and put in a soiled linen room and left to die. These were babies who were 20 to 23 weeks old. We're still not even sure he is a legal citizen and therefore legally running for president. There is a case in court and he won't furnish any documents. All of his college documents are sealed. So what does he have to hide? I feel that he is being less than truthful and I don't trust him. It's not so much that I fear him being president, although if he wins we will have a Democrat president and a Democratic majority in Congress at the same time so no checks and balances. I just think that Sen. McCain is a better choice for president.
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• Australia
17 Oct 08
Perhaps someone should point out to you that he has filled positions as a senator that have required deep FBI and Defence Department vetting, under a Republican administration, and he has passed all those vettings. Do you really think that if the things you have stated, all of which I have seen challenged by other Mylotters, with references and factual information, were in any way true that those agencies would not have long since picked them up? Get a grip on reality. Lash
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
17 Oct 08
Could you please be more specific about which items I have listed here that you disagree with?
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• Australia
17 Oct 08
You have accused him by association of terrorism, criminal activities, voter registration fraud, international electoral fraud, being an illegal citizen .... any of these things if true, would have made him ineligible for any number of the senatte commitees he has been on, and some of them would have made him ineligible for election at all. You seem to have swallowed whole all the poison spat out by the fanatics in the republican side of the debate. He may not be a perfect candidate, but it is extremely doubtful he is any of the things you have brought up here. Lash
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@irisheyes (4373)
• United States
17 Oct 08
I've been wondering about this a lot lately also. People who are generally quite sane and who I do not believe are racist are suddenly doing all sorts of screwy things to prove that Obama is some sort of monster or as they like to say "antichrist". I've seen doctored videos used on this site over and over to prove that he is some sort of insidious monster that will lead us all to doomsday. There seems to be an almost pathological need in some people to demonize this candidate and I just don't get it. I think it is going to be very difficult for these folks when they wake up and find it is "President Obama" so maybe they should try to deal with whatever it is that is driving their thought processes before election day comes round.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
17 Oct 08
There seems to be an almost pathological need in some people to demonize this candidate and I just don't get it. There also seems to be an almost pathological need to praise the man by some. I can see and comment on the faults of McCain but the fans of Obama are blind, deaf and dumb. They treat him as if he is the Messiah. A dem from Tenn. in the House of Representatives compared Obama to Jesus. Louis Farrahkan says he's the Messiah. Little children sing praises to him. Teens belong to a group called the Obama Youth or some such thing. It is idol worship to an extent of which I have never seen before in this country. Maybe in Germany under Hitler or in Korea until Kim Jong Ill. When Obama speaks at a rally girls scream and people faint. It's unbelievable and a bit scary.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
Very similar to what they are going to Governor Palin. If she were a Democrat, the media would not tolerate the kind of attacks she has endured. So I guess sexism is still alive and well also.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
All I have to say is that people fear what they do not know or understand. Many lies and rumors have been spread about Obama and people are always quick to belive things that aren't true. Black or not....half black...or African...who cares? It's not about race it's about who is the best candidate for this position. My vote is for Obama!
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@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
17 Oct 08
sharra1, you would have to live here and understand our constitution, political system and ideology of governance to understand the fears some of us have with this man. At least my fears with him. As I'm sure you are aware, we have a constitution. It is not a national charter for our nation, but a well defined blueprint for our government, a limiting and regulating document that is considered sacred. The powers and duties of our federal government, are very limited by this document and it states that ll powers not listed for the federal government are reserved for the states and people. It even has clauses that guarantees us as free states the right to rise in arms against a federal government we see as becoming too corrupt or tyrannical. In recent times, we have already seen many of these things become almost forgotten and the federal government has grown in to a lumbering controlling bohemouth as more and more authority and responsibility is shifted to the federal government and our states lose more and more control over their own territories and laws. As they gain more and more powers they were never intended to have, our country becomes more and more skrewed up. We were a great nation because we adhered to the ideology in that constitution, as we drift further from it, we have begun to lose the foundation of principals that made us function as a great nation. Obama is a nationalist in nature and sees the federal government as the ultimate authority and answer to things. We have already taken enough socialistic steps away from our roots. We have already taken enough nationalist steps away from our roots. My fear is an Obama presidency, especially with a democratic majority in congress, will lurch us even further away from that. The answer to what ails us is not to drift even further away from that but to begin moving back to what our founders intended. I am supporting the candidate I'm supporting because he is a believer in more strict adherence to these principals.
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@ZephyrSun (7385)
• United States
17 Oct 08
I'm going to ask you this because I fear other conservatives would bite my head off but, did you also have fears when the Republicans controlled Congress and the White House? I am just curious, I didn't fear the Republicans with that. It's not that I don't think about things like that I just feel that America would not allow too much power.
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@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
17 Oct 08
No zephyrsun they never get upset when the conservatives have complete control. That happened in Australia for 10 years and they could not take it any more and voted for the other side because the conservatives did nothing to fix the problems and pretended there was no such thing as climate change. They only get upset by change. It is quite astonishing really how they panic about change and then a few years after the change they look all silly and try to pretend they were not afraid because there was nothing to be afraid of.
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@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
17 Oct 08
I fear it when any one party has control of both houses and the executive branch, unless the party in control has a solid understanding of the constitution. and it seems now that neither does any more. It goes beyond party because this administration has committed unforgivable violations of these principles and the "bail out" just proves to me even further that both parties are willing to sacrifice these principles. It also seems to me that we as a nation are willing to sacrifice our liberties in the interest of security. "Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither." Ben Franklin
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• India
18 Oct 08
Maybe he has a 'hussein' in his name LOL.Almost everything has been discussed by the fellow pals in the above postings.So I avoid a repetition.A nice and informative thread.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
18 Oct 08
It has absolutely nothing to do with party affiliation and absolutely nothing to do with race. Change - especially large changes suddenly - is not something acceptable to the majority of citizens when there is no plan in place we can scrutinize, nothing with a track record of making anything better. I personally do not like some of his attitudes about things, trusting people who should not be trusted, etc. This isn't to say that McCain isn't doing some of this too, he could be but I am not worried that he's going to listen to people who do not have the good of America in their thoughts.
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@pumpykat (13)
• United States
17 Oct 08
Where have you been for almost 2 years,remembr the Rev.Wright,who said Goddamm America,or didn't you hear about that one,and come on,are you going to tell me someone can sit in church every sunday and not know what the Rev is preaching about.Like Duh,He also said the Obama is doing what he has to do to get into office,does the word muslum mean anything to you,why does he try to deny his muslum background????????? oh and does William Ayers,mean anything to you,guess not,this does not have anything to do with his race,I don't care if they are pink,purple white,black,brown,orange green,so long as they do the job,they are saying they can do.I have never heard so many lies come out of one man's mouth as Obama's.I wanted Hillary to run,and not because she is a women,she is the best one for the job.She has all kinds of experience,and so does John McCain,Obama has none,oh that's right,he was in he senate for 3 months.So don't blame me,I am one in 18 milllion who voted for Hillary,or wanted her to run.I could go on and on about Obama,but you can do the reserch for yourself,if you are really interested,I did.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
Funny how no one can name anything Obama has ever said or done that shows that he holds the same views as those ones Wright is criticized for having. Same with Ayers. Obama has said nothing nicer about what Ayers did than calling it "despicable" and "detestable". It's just more guilt by association nonsense. Let me know when you fearmongers find some actual guilt. "I have never heard so many lies come out of one man's mouth as Obama's" Probably because you don't listen to yourself.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
17 Oct 08
Oprah use to attend the same church but she wised up and quit. You cannot make me believe that someone sits in the same church for twenty years and they don't share the same beliefs as the pastor who was his spiritual mentor and like an uncle to him. How gullible and naive do you have to be to believe Obama and his lies? Obama is closer with Ayers than he lets on. They live in the same neighborhood. They have sat on several boards together. Their wives worked together. Obama's political career was launched in Ayers living room. It's sad that people in this country are being duped by this slick talking snake oil salesman.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
Claus,20 years in the same church,ummmm,hummm let me see,I guess since I go to that church I must beleive something he says,or do I go just to go and say oh I went to church today,wouldn't pledge to the flag,please,and would not wear a flag pin,how many more slaps in he face do you want.???? I wear a flag pin all the time,do you??? I pledge to the flag,and still tear up,do you,I go to church I want to go,and if I don't like what the priest has to say,I go to another church,do you,When I beleive something I back it up with my loyalty.Okay,let's forget about William just for a moment,even though he bombed the Pentagon,set fire to a New York Supreme Court Judge home,plotted jailbreaks and incited riots during the 1960's.Then he went underground,his wonderful girlfriend,constructed and planted a bomb containing heavy metal staples and left it on a ledge of a police station,killing one officer and wounding and blinding another.When he learned about the Manson family murders,he said,dig it,first they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies, Wild,Then the charming couple went underground untill the statute of limitations was up,and then reappeared,It was from the home of W.A.that the politicl career of Barack was launched,in 1995,B.O.was the chairman of CAC,and that he W.A.described himself as a radical,Leftist and a comunist.B.O. was also on the board of Acorn,was a volunteer for Acorn,and he also conducted leadership training,for seminars for them.So have a good night.
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@ronaldinu (12440)
• Malta
17 Oct 08
Maybe he is black and he will be the first black president if elected!
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
17 Oct 08
I would like to have a black president as I think it's about time we did. But not this man.
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@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
17 Oct 08
piasabird does that mean that you would accept a black republican but not a democrat? So really you are just being prejudiced along party lines?
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@connierebel (1571)
• United States
18 Oct 08
I actually would be "afraid" of any candidate that is so disrespectful of our constitutional rights, no matter what his race or color. Obama's record clearly shows that he has no regard for the Second Amendment, so why should we expect him to have any more regard for any other Amendment? also, what we do NOT need is an even bigger, more controlling government. Sure, things are pretty bleak right now, but will they really get any better with a President and a Congress that wants to raise taxes and spending? If Americans are so caught up with present conveniences and are not willing to perhaps suffer a while to make this country better, that they would be willing to give up all their freedoms to the government, then we deserve to have the Socialist (Communist) government that Obama is aiming for. As for finding something to attack him for, what about ACORN? What about his associating with that America-hating bigoted "preacher?"
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@irishidid (8734)
• United States
17 Oct 08
I'm more afraid of the crazy congress we have. The president's power is limited unless the congress gives him everything he wants which is never good no matter who the president is.
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@ladym33 (11008)
• United States
21 Oct 08
As Piasabird said I think most of the fear comes from his lack of experience. He is only a Junior Senater and has not even been in the Senate that long. He also does not have a lot of experience with foreign policy that is a big reason to be frightened. He is also a senator of one of the most financially mis-managed states in the country. I think it does not really have anything to do with his color. Some people have a problem with his name and thinking he is a muslim, but that is simply not true, and they are just ignorant and prejuice for thinking so. But that is a small group of narrow minded thinkers that think that way. The main fears are because of lack of experience, and lack of foreign policy experience.