If you're not angry, you're not paying attention.

United States
October 26, 2008 6:52pm CST
I see these words on a few bumper stickers around town. When is anger justifiable for you? Any examples come to your mind? What can you constructively do about it?
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@taripres (1499)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I get very upset when someone messes up my money, or does something which effects my my kids negatively! When either of those 2 happens, I feel like going on a rampage, but I have to think about the consequences and how to handle it in a civil manner!! Not The Money Or The Kids!! Taripre$
• United States
27 Oct 08
Your money and your kids should be the focus of a responsible father. I am fairly sure that the bumper sticker was about the craziness going on nationally and internationally, by the way.
@taripres (1499)
• United States
1 Nov 08
Well, if u put it like that; I'm frustrated when they decrease or shut down programs that's funded with the tax dollars, and claim they have no funds just to move it somewhere to benefit the more affluent who, as I c it, really don't need it! Yes, there is abuse of some programs, but what about the abuse of funds that makes the economy crumble that has nothing to do with government programs, but yet they move funds around to help them leaving much less fortunate people in a bigger hole!! Now, no jobs and no funds, what's that about? On top of that, I always felt that funds that are suppose to be available for different groups to help economic growth, should be a little more accessible for those who want or need it; it's too much red tape wrapped around it for it to be there for us! Pretty screwed up system!!!!! Taripre$
• United States
3 Nov 08
As I repeatedly say and write, we need a grassroots initiated Constitutional Convention to end abuses of power. The proposed amendments that pass at such a convention would then be sent back to the States for ratification. Consider joining us. Overall, the wealthy funding most of the politicians in these United States are the beneficiaries of of the U.S. economic empire. Businesses like Walmart and Microsoft come to mind. Politically, the media kicks around the phrase that the United States is the sole surviving Superpower. Substitute Empire for Superpower. Economically it is not true. The Eurodollar and the Chinese Yen are large in the world of economics. Concentration of power IS THE problem. So far, this has always lead to bullies in power. And all bullies are crazy. Life should be celgrated with parties. Words easier written than accomplished.
• United States
28 Oct 08
Anger is a human emotion and I have learned that it is never useful to deny one's emotions or have them dismissed by others. Simply having the emotion is a lot different than acting on that emotion or acting out because of that emotion. Right now I have a person in my life who angers me a great deal for a variety of reasons. It is better for me to stay away from that person, refrain thinking about or talking about that person. I need to let this anger go and I cannot do that, at this time, when I see, hear about, or speak of this person. I think that, right now, this is the most constructive thing I can do because it is a situation I cannot do anything else about.
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• United States
28 Oct 08
This is an excellent point and practical strategy. I have a how-to-write-well book and the author calls people like you describe as "crazy makers" and avoidance is the best strategy. Another book, titled "Mobbing" which is a legal term with laws in some countries in Europe, details the office politics non-physical bullying called mobbing. Again, the same strategy is advised. Do not confuse right and wrong since it is legal to bully. In the long haul, if we are to ever remove the occasion of war, we must make it illegal to bully. Not all people who are crazy makers are bullies. Some are just annoying or harmlessly crazy, are not open to constructive criticism, and thus unwilling or unable to change.
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• United States
1 Nov 08
Reading your comments made me realize that the person I wrote about, the one who angers me, is in fact a MAJOR BULLY. He is a COLLEGE PROFESSOR and a DEAN!! I guess we think of bullies as kids in school who push around other weaker kids, not educated people in positions of respect!!! If you haven't guessed, he's a family member and has bullied me, my younger brother and my daughter. I feel like I've had some kind of revelation!!!!! I do agree that bullying SHOULD be against the law. Unfortunately, nothing can be done until one party actually acts out, and as you said, it is usually the VICTIM. The closest thing would probably be stalking laws. If people can get stalking laws passed, maybe someday we will see bullying laws. Something does need to be done. Anyone who has read the news can see the disasterous consequences of bullying.
• United States
3 Nov 08
Rock Groupie, I hope that your revelation will empower you. There are European countries that have laws on "Mobbing" and the is a USA book by that title. Mobbing is their legal term for an illegal act in Sweden, for instance, and it is the non-physical acts that you just described. It has resulted in millions of Americans' health collapsing. "Office politics," and shunning are legal in the USA. Do not confuse right and wrong with what is legal. Join us in passing anti-mobbing laws here in the States.
@Jezebella (1446)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I think there is no justification for me to be angry. I want to be patient the way God wants me to and there is a scripture about being quick to anger as being like a fool, and well no one wants to be a fool right? If I am driving somewhere and someone cuts me off or makes me upset I say Jesus loves you! and that tends to help me cool off I may not like them but Jesus still loves them and me.
• United States
3 Nov 08
HI! We have to remember that anger is a human emotion. Sometimes we all get angry. I'm sure even Mother Theresa, the Dalai Lama and Ghandi experienced anger at times. It is how we deal with these emotions that sets apart children of God, from those that do not follow Him, or whatever higher power they believe in.
• United States
4 Nov 08
Do not forget the story of Jesus running the money changers away from the Temple's entrance! (He was the original separation of church-and-state guy.)
• United States
1 Nov 08
My daughter's grandmother just read the discussion and had a very interesting point. She feels that there is anger and then there is rage. And they are very different. You can get angry for getting shortchanged at the store, forgettihg to pick up an item, etc. Rage is when someone loses control of their anger and then acts upon it. An example could be when someone holds in anger so long, they just explode and say cruel things, often things that are not really meant,and feelings get hurt. These things cannot be unsaid ot taken back. The consequences result in some kind of inner gratification. Somone says something that needed to be said, but it was not said in a calmer, controlled manner. This often can result in guilt. I agree with what she is saying. As a parent, we tell our child, take out the trash, take out the trash and then explode when they don't. We might call the child lazy, good for nothing... I think she is focusing on just verbal anger and rage, but I do get her point. I asked her about acting out rage physically, such as when someone beats someone up, She thinks that is insanity!!
• United States
3 Nov 08
Violent "cool headed" bullies make "great soldiers." As a veteran of the Vietnam police keeping action (legally it was never a war) it was insane. What is being done all over the world is varying degrees of insanity.
@syankee525 (6294)
• United States
27 Oct 08
it's a normal behavor for people, but how you deal with it is another thing. i used to have a big issues with it, now if it's something small i just say oh well what the hell. i express myself to people who upset but learned its up to them to do with it as they want. sometime they don't do what we think they should. now if someone hurts my family then what i learned is out the window.
• United States
27 Oct 08
I take that you will not beg a raging bully not to hurt you. Now that I'm pushing 60, I look at the above sentence and actually think that turning the other cheek might make sense. I would probably get hurt a lot less by turning the other cheek than if I tried to fight back with my worn out body. I am continuing to adjust to my getting old...
• United States
27 Oct 08
i would turn the other cheek, unless there is no chance or i can't do it. if it came down to fighting no begging here. got to do what i got to do, fast and dirty.. lol i'm old and out of shape.. go for the knees lol
@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Hi Steve, Personally, I feel anger is only needed to release frustration. But only if you are not taking it out on someone or some creature. Unfortunately it's a necessary emotion but should be a controlled one. Pent up anger can be far more destructive than expressed anger. That is the only justification I can think of. The most obvious example for me is because it is happening right now, and that is people who vote without knowledge. They don't have to have my beliefs as long as they have beliefs. Anger is such a strong emotion and too many people do not even try to control it. As we see all around us all the damage and pain it causes when there is no control. The only thing we can do is try and maintain some kind of calmness when confronted with anger. How easy is that? leenie
• United States
27 Oct 08
As I never tire of saying, fear is THE emotion, and is always behind anger. Over this current financial crisis, I've heard several talking heads on TV or You Tube saying that "herd panic," not logic, is what's driving these dark times. I also think I understand that you do get frustrated (or angry?) with ignorant people who will even not register, study the issues and candidates, and vote. Yet, these same people whine about how awful their situation is. Have I understood?
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
1 Nov 08
Ahhh.. justifiable anger. When someone ELSE struck first for no reason. People responsible for physical or emotional harm toward my husband, children, or friends. We are all independent and supposed to be fully in control of ourselves... so I get angry at people who choose to invade or impose on other peoples' rights to be independent and in control of themselves. My philosophy is NOT 'why can't we all just get along'. My philosophy is 'why can't we all leave each other alone' LOL! I don't bother you, you don't bother me. I try to put this into practice by example. For instance if I don't approach you to whine about (insert thing you don't like here - such as, your hair color, your perfume, your piercings, your outfit, what you're eating, what you drive... blah blah blah) then you do not need to approach me or others to whine about the same. I may not like or agree with multiple things but that doesn't mean I make a jerk of myself and ensure the person KNOWS what I jerk I am by saying anything. There are a few things I will concede to, in protection of my daughter, such as rude language, exposure of body parts, threatening behavior, etc. I admit sometimes I deal with it constructively and creatively. Other times I just blow my top. It really depends on the nuances of the situation and how clearly it can be contained... or not. I kind of do a quick pros and cons comparison and based on how that comes up, I could be your best friend - or your worst nightmare. Most of my friends state they would much rather be on the GOOD end of that stick, when something is not right, I don't often just get tired and quit, I am stubborn and outlast most people who think I might be an easy target.