Senator Obama's new Change in Politics

@bobmnu (8160)
United States
October 28, 2008 12:05pm CST
Senator Obama is always talking about Change and Reform but has no record of Change or Reform. Now from fellow Democrats we learn the type of Change he is talking about. http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_voter_fraud/2008/10/27/144303.html?s=al&promo_code=6E3F-1 The other question that needs to be asked if this is the "Political Justice" he was talking about in his 2001 radio interview. Remember that Senator Clinton won the primary in all but one Caucus State but lost the delegate count in all the Caucus States. Senator Obama was nominated not by the people but by the Super Delegates and by not allowing the Voters in Michigan and Florida to have their votes count.
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@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
28 Oct 08
I'm not an Obama supporter, but he did win the delegate count. So even if the super delegates did not vote, he would have won by about 100 votes. Secondly Michigan and Florida were told well ahead of time their votes would not count if they voted early, they chose to vote early anyways. If you know the repercussions for breaking the rules and you break them anyways, why should you expect a different outcome? As for voter fraud? That's a whole topic on it's own, and is getting a lot of scrutiny even now.
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@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
29 Oct 08
According to Real Clear Politics delegate count Senator Obama would have been about 351 votes short without the Super Delegates http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html This election cycle there were many states that wanted to change their dates to have more say in the outcome. http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/2004/primaries.html As it is now you usually have half of the candidates out of the race based on one farm state (Iowa 45) and one eastern state (New Hampshire 22) both with a small delegate count. Three Big States (New York California and Illinois) moved to Super Tuesday. These three states account for over 35% of the delegates needed to get the nomination. Super Tuesday has 1681 delegates up for grabs which is almost 80% of of the delegates needed for the nomination. Florida and Michigan both swing state in the general election wanted to have a say who the party nominee would be, so they moved their primary just as many other states did. For some reason the Party did not want them to change. From the beginning it would either be a run away (as Senator Clinton thought) or it would be a close 2-3 person race with the Super Delegates determining the outcome. There are 823 super delegates which is 38.8% of the delegates needed for the nomination. You can check my number at the two web site I have listed.
@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
28 Oct 08
It appears that 0bama is trying to take Chicago style politics to the national level. It also looks like he can't win honestly, which means that not only is he a liar, he is a criminal as well. That means he fits in very nicely with the rest of the democrats. Maybe someone should remind him that this is not Kenya, and our political process is supposed to be honest... although there is strong evidence of voter fraud by ACORN in the last two elections.... not that it did them much good.
@iriscot (1290)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Is stealing honesty? I think not! I believe you need a refresher course on what happened during the election in 2000. Bush's brother, Jeb, stole the election in Florida in 2000. It has been proven and documented that the republicans used every dirty trick they could think or to steal the election, even the republican supreme court. The court that is supposed to be fair and just. Let's clear up some of the lies that were told to the citizens by your friends the repubs. Bush, Cheney, Rove and their clan got this nation in to a war that we can't win by deception and lies. This is also a proven fact. We are borrowing money from China, Japan and other countries to pay for a war that is costing over 10 billion a month. A war that has taken over 4000 lives away from the young men and women and mamed thousands more. You don't have the slightest inkling of proof of what you are trying to spread here. Wake up and get your head out of the sand. McCain lies about the tax plans that both he and Obama have put forward. McCain's plan won't change things a bit for the working class, it will only continue to give big business and the wealthy their unearned tax cuts. If you can read, you might want to take a look at Obama's tax plan. http://www.barackobama.com/taxes I figured mine and it is much better than McCain's
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@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
29 Oct 08
First of all I believe every recount in Florida showed that President Bush won the state. The biggest mistake made in the race was the media announcing that VP Gore won the and that the polls were closed at 8:00PM EST when the polls in the Pan Handle of Florida closed an hour later and that part of the state was for President Bush. If you have proof turn it over to MSNBC they will run a million miles with it.