What's eating the US??!?

By twix
@teison2 (5924)
Norway
October 28, 2008 1:22pm CST
I am in shock! Why the hell did they enter into Syria? When will they stop this? Do the US think they are the bos of the world? What would happen if Iranean helicopters came to USA and killed American citizens? I bet I they'd be shot down the second they enteret US air space. Do you think the US is entitled to enter forreign countries and kill people whenever they feel it is a good thing to do? What can be done to make them stop?
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@redhotpogo (4398)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Ok lets get the story straight first off. There is no official acknowledgment that any u.s. force went into syria. That report came from Syria itself, but its safe to assume its accurate. Is the u.s being a bully? No. The u.s. is protecting Iraqi citizens. The report is not that they went in and attacked Syria. The report is that they attacked foreign fighters that are hiding out in Syria, and going over the border into Iraq, and attacking Iraqi citizens. Since the U.S. is currently in control of that area, it is our responsibility to insure the safety of the Iraqi citizens. Syria can't do it, so we have to.
@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
28 Oct 08
Well, that is not what AFP news says. We are getting reports that US government officials confirm an attack on Syrian territory. I understand that it is possible to see things your way. Many people around the world have a different view however. It is Syrias territory. The US cannot force Syria to do what the US think is right. If everyone did things this way the world would be a horrid place. Even if everyone else but Syria agreed that the situation was just like you say I really do not think it is acceptable for one nation to launch an attack on another. There are a great number of people that think the US is terrorising them. I am not saying they are right, but it is a fact that not everyone agrees with the USA. I am sure you would not take it lightly if they said they had to launch attacks on US land because the US governemnt did not act appropriately (from their point of view). http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081027/wl_afp/syriaunrestusiraq_081027204238
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• United States
28 Oct 08
I have no idea who the afp is...isn't that a french media? Ive seen a few false reportings from them recently, so i would take anything coming from them with a tall glass of water. Yes it syria has the right to do whatever they want, but the move was not an attack on syria, it was an attack on illegal foreign fighters that have invaded syria, and are using their border to attack iraqi citizens. However you feel about the situation is fine, but our military has a responsibility right now to protect Iraq. We can't just sit there, and do nothing.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
Yes AFP is French The story is obviously told in many different ways around the globe. The main nettwork here in Norway say that US officials has confirmed it, and that it was inside Syria, and Syria has protested to the UN. They, in Syria, are supposedly outraged. We'll know for sure after a while probably. Something needs to be done. I just do not think anything will improve by making more and more people enraged, and having another country feeing thay are under US attack. It makes everything more unsafe in my view.
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@sedel1027 (17855)
• United States
28 Oct 08
When did the US enter Syria? LOL I haven't been watching the news. This is the first I am hearing of this. Odds are though it has something to do with oil.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
28 Oct 08
Might very well be. There was some mentioning of AlQuaida
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@sedel1027 (17855)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Where did you see that the US was going in to Syria. I checked the news online and didn't see anything. I *think* we have been in Syria for awhile, just like Afghanistan.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
28 Oct 08
It was on the news here in Norway.
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• United States
28 Oct 08
I'm American and I do not support this! Please do not assume that all American stand behind such invasion! I did not vote republican last election! Infact I do not support a lot of the things my country does to other country's, but what can we do, huh?.. It would probably take a act of revolution - civil war to get our opinion's across to our leaders anymore. It's ignorant to assume that all American's are at fault for what our crazy leaders do. Would you be surprised that a lot of American's are against such things? So are you any better to offer a "eye for an eye" solution to make things right, huh? Just remember this, mylots biggest population is American so you will probably ruffle some feathers with this topic.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
28 Oct 08
Good to hear! I'd never assume all Americans are behind this. I know several in person that are not for this, and I know there are large numbers of Americans that strongly oppose this. protesting, voting and writing about it are about the only things that may be done? When I talk about the US I am talking about the government. It should have stated that - I am sorry I did not. It is a language thing. If translated into my language it would be clear that I was talking ablout the state not the people of the state. Again I am sory if I offended you. It was not my intention. I love most American people. But I am obviously not to thrilled about the current leaders. I know the majority here are American. If people get mad I am sure they'll tell me. This is how I feel though - my security is made weaker by the actions of the decisionmakers in the US right now. makes me really angry, sad and upset
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@tdavis (117)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Well I am an American also, Syria had an Al Queda puppet, moving fighters, weapons and supplys into Iraq to kill Americans. They operated in the open in Syria and the goverment condoned their actions. Syria's goverment could have stopped it at anytime and chose not too, so we did. Iran has also been sending arms, materials and soliders into Iraq since the war started. They supply, train and cultivate terrorists in Iraq. Incidently, terrorist killed over 3,000 innoncent Americans, more than were killed in Pearl Harbor at the start of WWII. Americans that believe we should talk, don't understand that these terrorist, based on their religious beliefs can lie to infidles and it is condoned. Incidently, this all stems from the original mid-east problem, Israli's. Dealing with terrorist is like dealing with our little gang bangers, power is the only thing they understand. Like terrorists they hide behind women and children, they are afraid to fight as a military unit and hide in a civilian population that they terrorize, like the cowards that they are. Americans are the most giving people in the world, we are slow to anger, and always ready work together to solve problems. On the other hand, once you murder our Mothers, Fathers, sisters or brothers, we will spend every dime we have and follow you into hell to deliver justice, no matter how much time it takes or distance we have to travel. Americans sleep soundly in their beds at night knowing that some brave, men are willing to stay vigilent and kill those that would do us harm.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
28 Oct 08
There are obviously different ways of analyzing a situation. You and I will not come close to an agreement on what has happened when it comes to the US, terrorism and the middle east. I think the US government is making the world unsafe. people in the middle east does not want you there. Maybe that has something to do with people there hating America so much? I think so. Killing people does not make their friends nicer in any ways. The way the US is going about this clearly is not working well. The world does not seem much safer. Infidels. Who are the infidels? Who is on the right side? Do you think people in the middle east think it is your right to cross borders and decide what to do there if the government there has a different view than you do? If you have the right to go into other nations and decide what should or should not be going on there others should have the same rights in your country. If someone see you as the terrorists and feel threatened by your weapons of mass estruction, would it be ok for them to attck you if they felt you put them in harms way? It is not the US way or the wrong way. Things always have more than one side. This kind of attitude does not lead to peace - obviously.
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@mimpi1911 (25454)
• India
29 Oct 08
This is offputing! No way they can do that. And especially when the economy is into shambles, can they afford to show their superiority like this! Albeit not. We talk of global warming, green revolution but see how callous they are in contributing actively to the damage! I am sure most Americans do not support this. But this is gross.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
I do not think most Americans agree with this either. I hope not. I do think it is a bit scary that the Americans that wrote here yesterday reported so little news coverage about this. That's extremely svcary to me. The American people need to get far more and far better info than they obviously do.
• Australia
29 Oct 08
I have made the point in a couple of comments elsewhere in this discussion that targeting non-combatants is one of the definitions of terrorism, and it doesn't matter who does it, a government or a terrorist group. There are Americans on this discussion who have defended America's right to invade sovereign territory to target terrorists, on the grounds, among others, that the US 'warned' other countries they would do so if there were terrorists there. Australia has yet to suffer a terrorist attack on home soil, but the Bali bombings targeted Australian tourists, and a large number were killed. By the rationale used in the arguments I mentioned above, Australia has the right to go onto Indonesian soil with armed force and target terrorist groups. So why don't we? Possibly because Indonesia has about 5 times our population and a much larger army, so if we did they would give us a bit of a spanking. Of course America has many times the population of Syria, and the largest and best-armed army in the world with the possible exception of China, and Syria can't do a damn thing about it bar complain to the toothless tiger, the United Nations. Yet I notice the US did not make any serious move toward invading North Korea during the crisis last year. Why didn't they? Perhaps it's because North Korea is not a minnow like Syria, and has a well-drilled army and considerable animus toward the US. In a schoolyard, this set of circumstances would have the US branded a bully and a coward. And all this bullying does is to create an atmosphere of fear and anger, a nasty combination, throughout the Middle East, which is full of military minnows who are sick of being browbeaten by America. No wonder terrorist groups have no difficulty in finding recruits, nor that governments in the region are prepared to turn a blind eye to terrorist activity. Lash
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
Thank you Grandpa-lash for your response. I agree with you completely. I was not able to write it as clear and calmly as you did I'll make your words mine as well.
@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
28 Oct 08
I see this as a political game by the world powerful nation. With their election coming very soon, the changes might see a more peaceful world.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
28 Oct 08
I hope we'll soon see some changes. Hopefully the new president will do things a bit differently This can only increase the hatered against the US
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@060157 (1060)
• Pakistan
28 Oct 08
it's just that they've got strong forces which makes them feel as if they have the authority over the whole world. they do whatever they want since no one can retaliate effectively to their aggression. the american politics is just full of aggressors and power abusers. but i am sure the general opinion of majority of american citizens is against such wars.
@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
28 Oct 08
I think you are absolutely right in all you are writing. I think most US citizens would never agree to these things.
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• Canada
29 Oct 08
So Americans are in Syria now? What the heck is going on? My husband is American, I'm Canadian and we both hate the way Americans are invading everything they see. They shouldn't pi$$ off the middle east any more, if they don't want a real all out war on their hands.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
I agree. They should not pi$$ off the middle east any more. There seems to be somewhat different info about this here and in the US, judging from the responses I got. here they have shown us a video showing helicopters in Syria. Syria say the Americans invaded their territory and have killed 8 civilians. US officials have confirmed it, according to AFP and the TV news here in Norway. Syria have protestet through the UN.
@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
You scare me, T. Thank God not all people share your views
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Oct 08
Apparently our government thinks it can do whatever it likes under certain circumstances. Hopefully the upcoming election will change things for the better.
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
I really hope things will change after the election too. This way of dealing with terrorists really scares me.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Oct 08
Scares me too!
@ronaldinu (12445)
• Malta
31 Oct 08
To be honest I don't like the US foreign policy which thinks that it rules the whole world. On the other hand I do understand that US politicians do their utmost to protect their country from terrorist attacks. © ronaldinu 2008
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
31 Oct 08
Hi Ronaldinu! I agree.They have to do theri utmost to prevent terrorist attacks. I do not see how killing kids in Syria does that though. At thenews tonight I saw people there that said exactly what many here have been saying: this creates more terror and violence.
• India
29 Oct 08
hi teison, I dont think american is the bosof the world. i'm damn sure that iran will not attack us. they r not such fools. they will only take a resistive stand if the americans attack them. To make this stop we have only one thing to do that is to " remove the fear in american govt: when other countries grow".
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
Thanks for your response. I hope that will happen soon, because I think this way of acting makes the world very unsafe.
• United States
29 Oct 08
im an american and its very sad that our country has such a bad standing in the world i didnt know they went into syria yes i know we can be over aggresive but if someone came and bombed you country what would you do just leave it alone now i dont think any country in the world is that dumb and why would syria let them in there country in the first place you telling me that the country cant keep them out that dont make much sence to me and if iran ever tried to invade the US witch they wouldnt because i dont think there that stupid they would be shot down before they even got to us air space
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
I understand that something need to be done when someone did what they did in the US. However I disagree completely with they wat the US government handles this. They are just creating more terrorists and more danger and hatred in the world. Killing 8 civilian people in Syria to capture a criminal is not in any way acceptable in my mind. Nor in the minds of millions of people in the Middle East.
@Ganesh44 (5547)
• India
29 Oct 08
I think this can initiate worldwar III ......more and more countries are indulging in WAR US fighting with/in/directly or indirectly Iraq ,Iran ,Syria,Afghanistan ,China ,Russia,Vietnaam ,Pakistaan ohhhh Lets see what happens Happy Mylotting Take Care Ganesh
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
Thanks for your respnse, Ganesh! I hope there will be a change with the new president. have a good day! Take care
@urbandekay (18312)
29 Oct 08
Well, lets not forget that Iranian troops did enter foreign territory and captured British personal not so long ago Syria supports Hezbollah in Lebanon and they captured two Israeli soldiers in Lebanon. This act is equivalent of Syria employing mercenaries to enter a foreign state and commit an act of war. all the best urban
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@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
In no way does any of this justify the USA taking it upon themselves to enter several other countries and kill their citizens. This only creates more hatred and more terrorism in my views. Thanks for sharing your views :-)
@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
29 Oct 08
I am in shock as well. I saw it on the news last night and I could not believe that the US had invaded yet another country and killed unarmed civilians. I do not care who they think they were going after they had no right to go shooting Syrian women and children just to kill some person they think might be a terrorist. How dare they. When will they stop killing innocent people. And they call other people terrorists. No wonder so many people think Americans are terrorists. I have a real problem with this. Who will they attack next?
@teison2 (5924)
• Norway
29 Oct 08
My thoughts exactly What will they do next. This cannot be justified in any way. Thanks for your response