Phillies Win, Phillies Win, Wow!

United States
October 30, 2008 9:46am CST
I can't tell you how satisfying it is to finally end all the years of futility related to Philadelphia's sports teams. Anyone who have followed the Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers know that we've come so close but were never able to win the "Big One" Well last night, the Phillies ended over 20 years of heartbreak by winning the 2008 Major League Baseball World Series. As someone who lived and died with the Phillies over 162 regular games and 15 playoff games, I must admit that I wasn't fully confident that they would win it all even when they went up 3-1 against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Now that the Phillies have won it all, it seems as if a huge burdon has been lifted. Now critics can focus on the best team in baseball instead of the rowdy behavior exibited by Philadelphia fans in the past. Who can ever forget the booing Santa Claus or throwing snowballs during a snow storm? Now Philadelphia will be viewed in a different light. Viewed as the city of the Championship Philadelphia Phillies. Doesn't that have a nice ring to it? Lloyd
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• United States
30 Oct 08
I'm happy for you, Lloyd! I'm a National league fan, so I am excited, too! I know what it feels like to finally have a big win! I have always been an Atlanta Braves fan, and you know how long they went without winning the big one! lol I don't get to go to Atlanta that often to see games, but I did get to see John Smoltz pitch in a playoff game in 1991. I went with my Dad and his friend Ruby. Ruby played in the All-American Girls League in the 1940's and 1950's. We had a ball! When I was growing up, we had a farm team of the Pirates; my Dad and I went to all the games we could. Anyway, congratulations! I'm so glad your team won!
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• United States
30 Oct 08
Hello Cheryl. Right now I'm watching the noon news on Philadelphia CBS 3 http://cbs3.com/ Phillies World Series gear is flying off the shelves. The excitement is amazing. They are expecting nearly 2 million people for Friday's parade. Wow! I remember when the Atlanta Braves won the World Series. Now I know what it feels like. Thanks for joining in the celebration. Your friend. Lloyd
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@jerzgirl (9232)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I couldn't believe Modell's stayed open all night so that all the Phillies championship gear could be sold out. I'm just not that into anything to be going shopping during the night for a souvenir. Yeah - I'm a local.
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@soooobored (1184)
• United States
30 Oct 08
Go Phillies! When I first moved out to Philly, I learned of the "curse of William Penn", and I am so excited that I got to live in the area to see it lifted! I may see you then at the parade tomorrow!
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• United States
1 Nov 08
For those who aren't familiar with the "Curse of William Penn" here is the story. The Curse of William Penn was an alleged curse sometimes used to explain the failure of professional sports teams based in Philadelphia, to win championships since the March 1987 construction of the One Liberty Place skyscraper, which exceeded the height of William Penn's statue atop Philadelphia City Hall. The curse evidently ended on October 29, 2008 when the Philadelphia Phillies won the 2008 World Series, a year and four months after a William Penn figure was attached on the top of the then-newly constructed Comcast Center, the tallest building in the city. The curse had gained such prominence in Philadelphia that a documentary film by the same name, The Curse of William Penn, was produced about it. Atop Philadelphia City Hall stands a statue of William Penn, the city founder and original proprietor of the then-British colony of Pennsylvania (meaning "Penn's Woods"). For many decades, a "gentlemen's agreement" stated that the Philadelphia Art Commission would approve no building in the city which would rise above this statue. This ended in March 1987, when a modern steel-and-glass skyscraper, One Liberty Place, opened three blocks away. One Liberty Place dwarfs City Hall by 397 feet (121m), rising 945 feet (288m) in height compared to the height of Penn's hat on city hall, 547ft 11-3/4in (167m). The measurement of the height of City Hall is usually rounded to 548 ft, which coincidentally matches the career number of home runs hit by Phillies Hall of Fame third baseman Mike Schmidt. Its sister skyscraper, Two Liberty Place, at 848 ft (258m), would soon follow. Philadelphia sports teams had just before then enjoyed an enviable run of success: Major League Baseball's Philadelphia Phillies had won the 1980 World Series and the 1983 National League pennant; the National Hockey League's Philadelphia Flyers had won back-to-back Stanley Cups in 1974 and 1975, and were a regular presence in the finals (to wit, 1976, 1980, 1985, and 1987 as well as 1997); the National Football League's Philadelphia Eagles had appeared in Super Bowl XV, losing to the Oakland Raiders; and the National Basketball Association's Philadelphia 76ers had won the championship in 1983, as well as making the finals in 1977, 1980, 1982 and 2001. In fact, before 1980, the Phillies had appeared in only two other World Series, in 1915 and 1950, and the Eagles had won no NFC conference championships since the 1966 agreement that had created the Super Bowl, while the 76ers won NBA titles in both Philadelphia and in their prior incarnation, the Syracuse Nationals. Construction on One Liberty Place began in 1985, two years after the last championship season in Philadelphia. Unlike other "curses" that seem to strike particular teams, such as the Boston Red Sox's Curse of the Bambino, the Chicago White Sox's Curse of the Black Sox (both of which seem to have been lifted), the Detroit Lions' Curse of Bobby Layne and the Chicago Cubs' Curse of the Billy Goat, this curse is said to have struck four professional teams in the same city and is sometimes extended to include other sports. The curse, however, did not seem to affect professional teams outside of the "big four" sports; in fact, professional Lacrosse teams have had tremendous success. The Philadelphia Wings of the National Lacrosse League (indoor winter league) have won six titles since 1989, and the Philadelphia Barrage of the Major League Lacrosse (outdoor summer league) have won three championships (2004, 2006, and 2007). Additionally, the Philadelphia KiXX of the Major Indoor Soccer League won their league's championship in 2002 and 2007. It did not seem to damage the performance of Arena Football League's Philadelphia Soul either, despite several lackluster seasons. In 2008, they won ArenaBowl XXII, clinching their first Arena League title. The curse also did not seem to affect Philadelphia's minor-league hockey franchise, the AHL's Philadelphia Phantoms, who won the Calder Cup championship trophy twice since the curse's inception, in both 1998 and 2005 (the latter championship occurring during the NHL Lockout effectively making them the top North American professional hockey team). On June 18, 2007, ironworkers from Local Union 401 helped raise the final beam in the construction of the Comcast Center at 17th Street and John F. Kennedy Boulevard in downtown Philadelphia. The Comcast Center is currently the tallest building in the city at 975 ft (297.2 m). In an attempt to end the curse, workers John Joyce and Dan Ginion attached a small figurine of Billy Penn to the beam, along with the traditional American flag and small evergreen tree.] After the first Billy Penn figurine was stolen, it was replaced with a smaller 4 inch figure. On October 29, 2008, the Philadelphia Phillies won the 2008 World Series in five games against the Tampa Bay Rays. There were fears that Billy Penn had taken his final revenge on October 27, when the fifth game was suspended in the sixth inning due to a rain delay with the game tied at 2-2, and the Phillies leading series 3-1. However, the game resumed on October 29, when the Phillies rebounded with a 4-3 win. With this victory, the curse seems to have been lifted. A parade through Philadelphia on October 31, 2008 celebrated the victory; it was the first ticker-tape parade down Broad Street in Philadelphia since 1985. THANK GOD THE CURSE IS OVER. I'm already looking forward to next year. Lloyd
• United States
2 Nov 08
Wow, you know a lot more about it than I do! Here's something I heard on gameday, I'm just copy and pasting it from Wikipedia because they know more about it than I do: Comcast Center is a skyscraper in Center City, Philadelphia. The building officially opened for business on June 8, 2008, and its primary tenant is Comcast. On June 18, 2007, it became the tallest building in Philadelphia and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in an official topping-out ceremony led by then Philadelphia Mayor John F. Street. When the final beam in the construction was raised on June 18, ironworkers of Local Union 401 attached a small figurine of William Penn to the beam in homage to the statue atop Philadelphia City Hall, in an attempt to break the curse of William Penn.[1][2] The Philadelphia Phillies, Philadelphia 76ers and Philadelphia Flyers went on to make the playoffs in 2007. The Phillies would go on to win the 2008 World Series the following season, ending the long championship drought in Philadelphia. So it looks like the original curse still holds!! Philadelphia just finally appeased him!
• United States
3 Nov 08
Everything you wrote is factual. I usually don't believe in these types of things, but this one seems authentic. Let's see how the Eagles, Flyers and Sixers do this year. Then we'll be able to see if the "curse" is finally broken. By the way, the Eagles crushed the Seahawks today. Lloyd
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I for one, was very Happy when the Phillies won the World Series. Since they have Jamie Moyer who is a Seattle favorite, and even does a lot here still for Charities, etc. it was nice to see him and the Phillies get their ring. I think this was one of the Best World Series games, and I would have Loved to have been there to help Celebrate their victory as well. Best of Luck to them from here on out as well.
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@kgwat70 (13388)
• United States
1 Nov 08
It was so wonderful to finally see our Phillies win a championship again. We have been waiting a long time since our last championship and now we are champs again. The Phillies played well during the playoffs and world series and deserved this championship. I think we can win again next year as I hope we sign Howard and Hamels to long term contracts. They deserve more money. Wish that I could have attended the parade. Did you attend the parade? I will be watching the final game over and over again. Hopefully this championship will come to the Eagles, Flyers and Sixers as well. Congratulations to the Phillies and all of us Phillie/Philadelphia fans and the city.
@kgwat70 (13388)
• United States
1 Mar 10
You are certainly correct about Ruiz and Feliz and others playing a big part in their world series victory two years ago. The Phillies are still the team in Philly right now and am so ready to see them again this year and another trip to the World Series and hopefully another parade. We came up a little short this past season but am feeling confident that we will be World Champs again this year. I think the new additions this year will help us and an improved Hamels and Lidge and now Halladay. Hopefully the Eagles will bring us a title home this year and maybe even the Flyers.
• United States
1 Nov 08
It sure has been a long time. But the wait was worth it. I feel so happy for Charlie Manuel. He is now an official Philadelphian. You mentioned Howard and Hamels, but everyone played a part in this accomplishment. How about Ruis and Feliz? Who would have ever thunk it? Things are really looking up now and I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles are next in line. Thank you very much. Lloyd
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
30 Oct 08
Hi Lloyd, Congratulations to you and all Phillies fans, I'm sure it has to be an exciting time. It had to be disappointing when the game was called off because of rain, but I guess last night made up for it. Enjoy your time in the limelight, others will be fighting to take back the title next year. Blessings.
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• United States
1 Nov 08
Thank you very much. It's sure exciting here in the Delaware Valley. Over 2 million people showed up for the parade yesterday. Can't wait til next year to see if we can repeat. Watch the parade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K78QF48plM&feature=channel Lloyd
@jerzgirl (9232)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I don't know whether Philly's rep will improve, but the opinion of their team sure will! I had a feeling they'd pull this one off, though, when the game got rained out. They had been up by 2 and then the Rays tied with 2. That's when the game was suspended for rain. I thought, OK - they do their best at the beginning (I'm rather cynical - I tend to think they do really good and then relax and that's how they lose games, both Phillies AND Eagles), so when they have to play the last three innings, it will be like a new game again and they'll do their best again. Although, based on the score, it seemed like both teams pushed hard to win, so it was a good finish to a great year (I don't watch any sports, but really - who wants to watch someone win because the other team is SOOOOO bad that it's a walkover?) I am very happy they pulled it off. The last championship I can remember is the Stanley Cup back in the 70s or 60s (probably the last 60s). So, I'm happy for them - I'm just not a sports fan.
• United States
1 Nov 08
I don't think the fans rep will improve either. The national media can't seem to get over what happened in the past at the former Veterans Stadium. The game that got rained out should have been called way earlier. It was if the umpired wanted the game to be tied up before they called it. Fortunately the umpires decision didn't affect the play of the Phillies and they were able to finish the job. Join the celebration: http://cbs3.com/local/Philadelphia.Phillies.Tampa.2.852050.html Lloyd
• United States
30 Oct 08
I knew Phillies would win as the Rays are still relatively young...The Phillies team has a lot of veterans..seasoned ball players; not that the Rays didn't play a good game!
• United States
1 Nov 08
I also thought that the bright lights of the World Series would get to the Rays. The fact that the Phillies won 4 out of the 5 games prove that I was right. The Rays have a bright future and I really don't want to see them against the Phillies in the World Series next year. Lloyd
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
30 Oct 08
Like everybody else from the Philadelphia area, I'm over the moon. But how long does that reputation for being a city of losers last? The city has been on an upswing for years. This is the most under rated city in the country. Philadelphia is like an elegant old dowager with a great big working class heart and she now has a winning team. This is no longer a loser's city in any way.
• United States
1 Nov 08
It's great living in the Philadelphia area at this time. Everything is wonderful. And how about this great weather? Everything just seems to be falling into place for us. You are so right. The city is definately on the upswing. I'm going to miss going there and working for the Obama campaign. I've never had a problem there. Have you ever been to Chickiees and Petes? It's my favorite place to go near the stadiums. Go Phillies. Lloyd
@suruchi86 (1873)
• India
12 May 09
Since I'm from India, I don't know anything about local sports of your place. However, it feels nice when your local team wins some crucial matches.
@cjgrooms (4456)
• United States
30 Oct 08
It has a lovely ring to it and i am glad you get to say it. I know nothing about baseball-well i do know they use a bat, ball, glove and refs that can't see (i only know about the refs because all sports use them)- but i am happy your team won the "BIG ONE" for you. As for critics focusing on something positive instead of past behavior- GOOD LUCK they are called critics for a reason.LOL
• United States
1 Nov 08
Yes we won the "BIG ONE" and it feels so good. The critics can focus on the negative, but it's all positive here. Over two million "well behaved" fans showed up for the parade yesterday. Check it out. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/sports/baseball/01parade.html?em Lloyd
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
31 Oct 08
Yay, I guess. I'm sorry I don't follow baseball. I am really glad that the baseball season is over though, my husband likes to watch it and I get drove crazy
• United States
1 Nov 08
Tell your husband I said hello. I hope he was rooting for the Phillies. We really needed to break this dreadful curse of Billy Penn. It feels so good right now. Lloyd
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