And You Still Think You Well Recieve A Tax Cut Under Obama

@gewcew23 (8011)
United States
November 1, 2008 6:09pm CST
Obama’s original promise was not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000. Well apparently Obama did not tell Governor Bill Richardson or his Vice President Joe Biden that. Joe Biden cut the ceiling down to 150k and Bill Richardson cut the ceiling down to 120k. I can hear it now, well that was not the Great One himself. If anyone want to make that point, fine but I would like you to think about this, who knows more about Obama's tax policies, you or his closest advisers? If Obama is lying about his tax ceiling then maybe just maybe he is lying about the whole tax cut thing. Remember Bill Clinton promised the same thing yet he raised taxes on the middle class.
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8 responses
• United States
1 Nov 08
I do not think the middle class are listening. They are voting for Obama because they are bitter at Bush, and they think Bush and McCain are the same person. So who do they think they are getting back at? They will not be hurting Bush. When he gets out of office, he will be put on his cowboy hat and have a BBQ. If McCain does not get in, they will not be hurting him because he will be at the Bush BBQ lighting the coals. So who will really be hurting? They will! If he does not care about his Aunti living in a public housing area in Boston, whom he has silenced as she says "until after the election"....he certainly does not care about you! As Michelle Obama "Wake up, Black America!" But I am not a racist. I will include all of America. Wake up!
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• United States
1 Nov 08
Why do people insist on being close-minded and prejudice. You're categorizing all democrats and middle class society who are voting for Obama as being trite and vengeful. That's not why all of us are voting for Obama. I'm sure there are a few, VERY FEW, who would be trivial enough to choose the leader of their country based on their own retaliation. It's unfair and ignorant to say what you just said and I'm sure you know that. One of the reasons I'm voting not voting for McCain is, yes, because his views and projects are really similar to Bush's and they've been attempted already and didn't show positive. NOT because I hate Bush and am bitter against him. How old are we? Come on now.
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• United States
2 Nov 08
You are so right. What was I thinking? Some of them are voting for Obama because he likes the idea of allowing people to kill babies before they are born, killing babies born during abortion. The morning after pill will make great birthday gift from the boyfriend. Sorry I do not have the time to list the others. But you get the idea. After all, you support him.
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• United States
2 Nov 08
I'm seriously astounded. Look, we're all different. We all have different views and that what, in my opinion, makes this world so incredible. You don't have to personally attack someone and their character just because their views are different than yours. That's what I was trying to get across in my last response. It'd be nice if someone, who is probably twice my age, could grasp that without being vicious and unnecessary. Humans just have a lot of growing up to do.
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@twoey68 (13651)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Ppl need to realize that this is campaign talk...it isn't written in stone and it doesn't mean that it's actually going to happen. So many ppl are taking what either candidate says as gospel and it's not...it's just campaign talk. There's been alot of candidates that have promised change...that never came and there's been candidates that have promised lower taxes (like Clinton)...that never came. Remember once their in office, they don't have to back up that campaign talk. [b]~~MY OWN PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF**[/b]
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
3 Nov 08
You are so right! Wouldn't it be nice though, if just once we actually had a campaign season where the candidates made promises that actually COULD be kept, and once elected they actually DID keep them? Sorry, I was dreaming for a minute there! LOL
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@twoey68 (13651)
• United States
4 Nov 08
I'm not going to hold my breath on any candidate to uphold his campaign promises...but to hear some ppl, you'd think it was law when all it is, is good speech writing. [b]~~MY OWN PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF**[/b]
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• United States
2 Nov 08
I still remember good ol'Bill explaining to the nation,"I worked harder than I ever have in my life" as a part of his excuse for how no matter what he could not keep his promise. You mean ol'0bama is in the same league as ol'Bill when it comes to being a liar? Wow, that really is something.
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• United States
1 Nov 08
I think when it comes down to it, people will pretty much say anything to make Obama seem like he's a degenerate liar. Both presidential candidates, in my opinion, will do a good job leading our country. Yes, McCain has more experience. Yes, he's served in the service. But there are have been several presidents in the past with similar experience and they did a horrible job with us. There's seriously not a day where something new comes up that tries to make Obama appear ill-fit as a president. Give it a break. Even if what you're saying is true and he's going to raise taxes on anyone making less than 120k a year, I still stick with his policy more than I stick with McCain's. McCain's policy has been tried before and it failed. To continue giving more money to the wealthy minority who don't need it for their survival and hoping it's going to somehow trickle it down to those of us who actually do need it, is unrealistic. Raising taxes by the small amount they're going to be raised will ultimately serve our economy in a positive way. It's working toward the common good of everyone. I wish people would stop just looking out for themselves all the time. Our species needs to evolve and learn from history. Being self-centered does not better anything.
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@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
2 Nov 08
"Even if what you're saying is true and he's going to raise taxes on anyone making less than 120K a year, I still stick with his policy more than I stick with McCain's." These are your words. What do you know that the rest of us don't know? "To continue giving more money to the wealthy minority who don't need it for their survival and hoping it's going to somehow trickle it down to those of us who actually do need it, is unrealistic." These are your words. The government doesn't give the wealthy minority their money. The wealthy minority work for their money. They invest in our nation and they build businesses that give people like you and me jobs. Besides investing their money in business, they give much of their money back to the government in the form of taxes. And their tax burden keeps going up to satisfy the greedy poor. "Raising taxes by the small amount they're going to be raised will ultimately serve our economy in a positive way. It's working toward the common good of everyone. I wish people would stop just looking out for themselves all the time." These are your words. Raising taxes on businesses could very possibly cause those businesses to downsize, or outsource causing many people to lose their jobs. How is that helpful? The wealthy are not just looking out for themselves. Yes they get the lions share but why not? They are the ones who have taken the risk. "Our species needs to evolve and learn from history." I don't remember where in history taking money from hard workers and those who have invested in the economy and just giving it to those who don't work hard has ever helped any nation.
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• United States
2 Nov 08
Okay, you seem to get the notion that Obama just wants to take and take and take all the money from the wealthy until they're left with nothing. That's not what he's going to do. $250,000 is A LOT of money to make in a year. That's more than $10,000 a month. People who make that kind of money are most likely living a life of pure luxury(unless they don't know how to manage money) and getting by just fine. You also, for some reason, think that just because someone has a lot of money, they're really hard working. In a lot of cases, that's not how it is at all. But, that's not the point, the point is this: Obama wants to take a tiny percentage of more money from the paychecks of people who won't even see the difference. It won't affect their livelyhood in the least. He's doing this to further help our economy and the common good, I highly doubt it's going to have crucial affects on our markets or corporations. And if it does, we can always try out McCain's new solution to better the economy. OH WAIT! We already have and look where it's left us. Our economy is in the worst shape since the depression. All I know is that we need to start trying something different or else we're never going to get out of this hole. For some reason, people like to try the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
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• United States
4 Nov 08
I don't get where you think I deserve to take anything from anyone because they don't deserve it. I didn't say that or imply it in anyway. If we had a normal, stable economy, raising taxes would be unnecessary and useless, but our economy is in horrible shape. I believe raising taxes with be beneficial in the end until we can get leveled out with our debt. If you don't believe raising taxes will work, may I ask what you believe would?
@newtondak (3950)
• United States
1 Nov 08
If the ceiling keeps getting lower, soon welfare recipients are going to be declared middle class and will need to pay taxes on their benefits!
@gewcew23 (8011)
• United States
1 Nov 08
Taxes on welfare recipient's benefits what an idea.
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@newtondak (3950)
• United States
5 Nov 08
You could do it like payroll withholding - they just wouldn't get as much because part of it would go back as taxes.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I actually did support him during the primaries, though the more that I have heard and seen, the less I can trust him. I no longer trust him to govern and lead our nation in the way that I believe it needs to go. I also am no longer able to give him my vote. I sorely wish that Ron Paul had been able to win the nomination. He was my first choice, and I still believe, the best one. This is just one more reason NOT to trust him. Although, candidates rarely keep their campaign promises in the end, it is still very unsettling to see them caught in lies and flip flopping on the issues during the campaign. I guess I should be used to it by now....**SIGH**
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@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Not only did Clinton raise taxes, it was the biggest tax increase in our history. The democrats run on lies and rhetoric where they blame the repuclicans for the problems that the democrats created. The current economy is a prime example of this. Democrat policies created the mess, the repulcans tried to prevent it and were blocked by the democrats.... who now blame Bush for something he and McCain both tried to prevent. Meanwhile, 0bama was suing banks on behalf of ACORN thus contributing to the problems. 0bama is part of the problem, he is not the solution.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
2 Nov 08
I just like at numbers. There are more people in the middle class then there are in the upper class, so therefore, it is advantageous for Obama to lower the ceiling for raising taxes so that only the lower classes and the lower middle class will be left free and they will have to suffer because of the price of food and gas. I would not trust Obama one bit.