Her own fault?

@SViswan (12071)
India
November 2, 2008 1:13am CST
Last month, a television journalist in Delhi, India was killed on her way back from work. Though the Delhi Chief Minister said she regretted the death, she said the journalist should not have been so 'adventourous' as to travel in the night alone. The death happened at around 3 in the morning. Instead of cleaning up the city (which would be too much work), the chief minister appealed to the employers to ensure safety for female employees. When a woman gets attacked in the street, is it her own fault for not staying at home? What do you think about this incident?
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@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
3 Nov 08
Interesting why do men always manage to blame women for everything. There are some men who believe that the woman is always at fault, I mean she is a woman that alone makes her guilty and it all goes downhill from there. Sorry for the sarcasm but I hate the way men are so eager to blame women for causing everything that happens to her. I mean she cannot help being born a woman but from the moment she is she is doomed to trouble. Its a tough life.
@SViswan (12071)
• India
8 Nov 08
lol..it wasn't a man but a woman who passed the comment! The Delhi Chief Minister is a woman! Now, doesn't that make it worse?
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@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
8 Nov 08
That makes it a lot worse in my mind but there have been many women who do not support others. Margaret Thatcher was a good example. I hate it when men do it but I hate it even more when women blame women for being victims. Had this been a male journalist would she have also said that if had stayed home like a good boy then he would still be alive. What happens when they do stay home and they still get attacked. It is the government's fault for not making the streets safer!!
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@mayka123 (11766)
• India
3 Nov 08
Had read about this incident in the papers. The crime rate is increasing and it is becoming dangerous for females to be travelling alone at night. Though it is the responsibility of the Government to look after the citizens I think we should learn to take care of ourselves and avoid travelling along at night. If it is too late either stay back in the office for a few hours more or else have someone escort you home.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
8 Nov 08
But that isn't a practical option when it's not a regular thing, is it?
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@mayka123 (11766)
• India
8 Nov 08
It is not a practical solution but the only sensible thing one could do now.
@bvdev234 (304)
• India
2 Nov 08
Hi Viswan, I'll say, women have to be cautious in this matter. As far as possible, try not be alone in streets at night. Nobody have to be so adventurous (women or men). We are playing with our life, if once lost is lost.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
2 Nov 08
The young journalist was returning home after work. I agree that it is our responsibility to be cautious. She was driving in her car and I'm not sure what happened.
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• Philippines
3 Nov 08
I agree with that too.My boyfriend would accompany me when going home at night.But now that he's away,I'm scared to go home a bit late at night.Pls. help me pray that he comes back in a week time.I need my honey. :(
@Roseo8 (2947)
• India
2 Nov 08
hi SV,yes this was an unfortunate incident that happened in our capital city,where a young woman journalist was killed in the wee hours of the morning,when she was returning home from work.The Delhi chief minister,herself a woman,made some indiscreet remarks that evoked the wrath of other women journalists across the country. How ever much we blame the authorites during such incidents each one of us,whether men or women,have a duty to safe guard his or her life and safety.Its true the authorities have to give protection and ensure safety of all its citizens,but considering the corruption and political manipulations that are rampant in our country,its best to take our safety in our own hands .Moving about at night in groups and refraining from being highly adventurous and appearing to be too independent is essential to prevent such untoward incidents.... And in the case of the young journalist I do not say she should stay back at home after dark.But she could have definitely asked a colleague to drop her or her company should have made arrangements for her transport,or she could have waited a couple of hours more for day break before venturing home....
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
2 Nov 08
Yes, the crime scene being the way it is, I do agree that the responsibility of taking care of our security lies with us. But for the chief minister to make such remarks shows that keeping the city crime-free is not the priority of the government. That's sad.
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@Roseo8 (2947)
• India
2 Nov 08
Yes dear,I did see on TV how the LADY chief mimister casually referred to the incident,as though it was entirely the fault of the girl.I guess the CM is busy with election campaigns and all that and has no time for anything else.Kya Zamana aagaya hai?
@vicky30 (4777)
• India
3 Nov 08
Yes it is definitely a womans fault for staying out at late in the night.Nights the time when drunkards,party goers are on the streets.There's no one besides them in the night.It is better that woman come home before 10:00pm.
@SViswan (12071)
• India
8 Nov 08
The journalist was returning home from work? So, women working at call centres shouldn't be doing the night shift?
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@pumpkinjam (5808)
• United Kingdom
3 Nov 08
I have mixed feelings in these cases. Of course I don't feel that it is the woman's fault if she is attacked. However, I do think it is a bit stupid of anyone, man or woman, to go through any area alone at that sort of time, especially if it's unfamiliar or known to be dangerous. I don't think people should just always stay at home but, surely, if you know that you're not coming home until 3am then you make sure someone you trust is there with you. I recall a couple of incidents locally where woman were attacked and, while it was not their fault that they were attacked, both incidents were in secluded areas late at night after the women had been out drinking and were walking home alone. One through an unlit park and the other under a subway where incidents were common. So, while I will still repeat that of course it wasn't their fault and they didn't "deserve" it, it wouldn't have happened if they had been more sensible.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
8 Nov 08
hmmm...you do have a point there considering that Delhi is an unsafe city even during the day. But the CM's remarks were a put down. She should have rather kept her mouth shut.
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• United States
2 Nov 08
That's not right at all. It's never the victim's fault that someone chose to attack them. I'm sure she could have took certain percautions to avoid a dangerous situation, but it still doesn't make it her fault. It's the attacker's fault. The minute you start making rules for victims and making them work around the attackers is when the violence rate doubles. We should do something to prevent criminals from walking the street; not the innocent people.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
5 Nov 08
Very well said melissa and muscle. This particular city has a very high crime rate (despite being the capital city of India) even during the daytime. It's not safe to venture out during the day either but that doesn't stop people from doing so. And the journalist was returning from work...she was driving back home. It's probably a similar attitude as that of the Chief Minister that got the violence rate to go so high in the city.
@glords (2614)
• United States
2 Nov 08
When a woman gets attacked on the streets it is only the fault of the person who attacked her. It is not her fault or the fault of the community or the authorities. Only the attacker will stand before God for this sin. However the communities response to the circumstance is their own moral obligation.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
5 Nov 08
Thank you...that sounds very sensible.
• United States
2 Nov 08
i dont think anyone should be at fault when they are the victim of a violent crime.. it irritates me when people do this.. like when they say a woman had it coming when she got raped because she was wearing a skirt and etc.. the attacker is nothing but an animal and its not anyones fault that people have become insanely sick and uncontrollable
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
4 Nov 08
People in India still believe that woman gets raped because of the way she dresses. Last year, there was an exhibition of clothing that women had worn when they were raped....and guess what? Almost all of it were normal, decent Indian clothing and not skimpy by any stretch of imagination. Definitely not provocative clothing.
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• India
3 Nov 08
delhi is not a safe place for women from time immemorial. the culture of delhiites is somewhat vulgar. i say this as an indian. its not just woman, even men are not safe in this place called Delhi. The CM's statement is irresponsible and escapist. when a journalist covers a story they are out anytime of the day. this is not the first time this particular chief minister has been made such irresponsible statements.
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@ronaldinu (12440)
• Malta
3 Nov 08
I think it is a sad incident. It's no doubt the minister responsibility to clear violence and crime in her city. The victim being a journalist she should have been more shrewd than to go out on her own at odd hours in the morning. © ronaldinu 2008
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@cupid74 (11394)
• Pakistan
3 Nov 08
Hi Sv sure its not a good statement its right of every citizen that he/she should stay safe not only in house/office bit also on street and roads regardless of time and place. and the incident u r refering to is Dehli, A Capital, most secure and guarded area as compare to other cities, if its situation here then just imagine what would be Situation in Remote Areas. All i would say that due to lack of Jurisdictio and legislation and Slackness of Law enforcement agencies, this situation arise. Gov should and must work on it, but on the same side, i would say as prevention is better than cure. its wise not to walk alone on deserted and un safe areas ither its female or male Take care
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@whiteheron (4223)
• United States
5 Nov 08
I think that it would be good for the cities to be safer. Yet I recognize that is sometimes not easy. In certain parts of my State, it is frankly unsafe to go out at night and walk and even the police are uneasy there as they are at risk of getting shot too. In places like this, those who go out, male and female alike, go out at their own risk... and it is, I guess, then left to karma, chance or God's will to decide what will happen. It is a sad thing indeed that this happened.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
8 Nov 08
I have to admit that Delhi as a city is unsafe for men or women at all times. But I feel that the Chief Minister's comments was put down.
• United States
8 Nov 08
It is unfortunate... I am wondering if he would have said the same thing if this had been a male reporter?
@BYOLA2871 (4373)
• South Africa
3 Nov 08
its so unfortunate that human life can be blamed n such but its not fair that such statement can come from people that should be taking care of situations,how can he say she was adventurous to hve been walking or going home alone at that time,?is there a law or a curfew that forbids her from working late ?i wish he thought about that statement before he said it,what was the people"s reaction to that statement?
@SViswan (12071)
• India
8 Nov 08
The Chief Minister is a woman herself and the journalist wasn't walking home..she was driving home.
@BYOLA2871 (4373)
• South Africa
8 Nov 08
you mean a woman made such a statement?i cant believe it.its funny anyway i think such a woman needs to be checked if she is coming rom work and she walks into an ambush will it be right to say the same thing to her?
@kiran8 (15386)
• Mangalore, India
2 Nov 08
I think it shows the kind of arrogance politicians have, being safe and protected with umpteen body guards.Dont they have to go out late, at some stage or the other.may be to catch an international flight which takes off at ungodly hours.She has enough people dancing attendance, so has the cheek to pass a comment like that.Would she have passed such a comment if the girl was her grand daughter? Having said that, i feel that our cities are not safe for anyone to be out late at night.You can never be sure what kind of characters are out there prowling.It is such an unfortunate happening and for what?
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
8 Nov 08
Yes, our roads are not safe (for men or women) but this journalist wasn't out partying or having fun. She was returning from work in her car.
@laydee (12813)
• Philippines
2 Nov 08
Well, for me it depends really. It depends whether or not there was an issued warning, and depends on why a person was outside. If there had been warning about these unavoidable incidents then she should have avoided that area. Let's say, an area is known for bad incidents during the wee hours of the morning, so it should have been a persons common sense not to be there nor to pass there at the wee hours of the morning. Similarly, it also depends on her purpose for being there late. If she couldn't avoid it because that's her only route home of if she was forced to go overtime, then it's not her fault. But if she, like most of the journalists these days, specifically went there for a story knowing that it's dangerous, then it's her fault. This is what I notice these days, journalists are out of control, and whenever something wrong happens to them, they blame the government. I mean, what do they want the government to do? Tie them down so they won't go there? There was actually a similar incident here in my country a few months ago. A team of journalists were held ransomed by the lefties since they deliberately went to an area even thought military warned them not to cross that vicinity. I can't blame the government in that incident, because they were warned. The government cannot protect each and everyone, they're only few. The main reason why they issue these warnings is because they (the government) couldn't protect people in that area, so why did they even go there? Well, I'd say they just needed the attention. So, there it is. Yes, there is freedom of the press, but I hope they would understand the fact that regardless if you're PRESS or not, you're still human and are vulnerable to danger. So, use your head and not your greed for a story.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
5 Nov 08
Now, I'm not sure if the journalist was returning from working overtime or from trying to get a story (that's part of her job too, isn't it?). But the city is unsafe even during the daytime. But that doesn't stop people from going out during the daytime too. I do agree that we need to use our head...but in India (especially in the city of Delhi), girls and women are kidnapped off the streets. It is the government's duty to provide a relative amount of security to its citizens. But if it were an isolated case in a relatively secure place, then I guess your contentions are right.
@James72 (26829)
• Australia
2 Nov 08
How unthoughtful of this woman to expect to be able to travel freely in her own city like this! What a ridiculous statement by the Delhi Chief Minister is probably the more appropriate thing to be said here. Sure we must exercise caution at all times and there is no way I would ever let my own wife travel alone at any time of night like this; but come on?? The statements made are just a diversion from the realities of the Minister's inability to clean up his own streets.
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@SViswan (12071)
• India
4 Nov 08
You know what the funny part is? The Chief Minister is a woman!! I agree that I wouldn't venture out alone at night. But this woman was returning from work. What about all those women in BPOs who work the night shift or the shift that ends in the middle of the night? Are they expected to stay back at the office till daybreak (which isn't safe either....in Delhi)? Or should they not have taken up a job that required them to travel at night(what happened to freedom of choice?)?
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• India
3 Nov 08
i think it is fault of her and someone who hated her or her work.
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@subha12 (18453)
• India
3 Nov 08
i hvae heard about this., also the comment made by Shila dixit. i think the cities have becoime unsafe. it was not at all her fault. why others are turning like beasts?
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@balasri (26553)
• India
2 Nov 08
This is a very irresponsible statement.Does the CM means to say that the night belongs to thugs and murderers in Delhi?Shame. We don't need what Gandhi asked for the woman who walks in the night. We are very happy to have the safety of the girls in broad day light here.Let us take care of the night later.Country is going from bad to worse in discipline every minute.
@SViswan (12071)
• India
4 Nov 08
You are right....women (and girls) in Delhi are not safe even during the daytime...let alone at night.
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@balasri (26553)
• India
5 Nov 08
It is like that everywhere.I just cannot understand how this lot becomes animals and pounce on girls as they did on the last New year's day in Mumbai. The comments of the Mumbai police commissioner, DN Jadhav “Don’t make a mountain out of a molehill. Keep your wives at home if you want them safe. This kind of small things can happen anywhere”.
@SViswan (12071)
• India
5 Nov 08
It's so easy for them to term them as 'small things'....but they don't understand how it feels to be groped (which happens during the day time too....just be a woman and get into the public transport buses)
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