Tenure Teachers

United States
November 3, 2008 6:55pm CST
I cannot stand tenure teachers. Why? Because most of them lose their passion for teaching after such a long period of time. I think that in order to be a teacher, and keep your profession as a teacher, you have to earn it. I have had two of these teachers in my life, and they by no means deserved it. One of them was so mean, and brutal, that she should have been fired before I ever became a student of hers. Now, she is still teaching at the middle school that I attended and I heard that she is still and mean as she used to be, and that the students in her class are learning nothing from her. I remember all of the horrible things she said to me and all of the horrible names she called me in class. I should have gotten her fired. I regret it not having done it. This teacher made my life, and the lives of others students a living Hell. She is retiring next year, and she does not deserve that. Has anyone here ever had a tenure teacher, who did not deserve to be one?
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4 responses
• India
4 Nov 08
She is retiring next year, and she does not deserve that? Well, what else does she deserve? To remain a teacher forever? Fact that she was not fired till retirement probably means that no one complained about her, and if no one complained for so many years, she must have been an ok individual--maybe not perfect, but not such a monster as you paint her. As for learning from anybody, not just teachers, a lot depends on the student too. If the student can't learn, no teacher can teach such a student. I suggest you leave behind your teacher's "meanness" and move on. No use thinking about how "mean" people were in the past. Cheers and happy mylotting
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• United States
4 Nov 08
I was a teacher for 15 years. I NEVER met a student who could not learn. I did, however, meet teachers who could not teach. Sounds to me that this "teacher" was verbally abusive to her students. She should have been out of a job a long time ago and would have been if she did not have tenure. It takes many years of documenting facts and incidents for a teacher with tenure to be dismissed from her job. It is usually more trouble than it is worth to the administration. Teachers also have very strong unions backing them up. And if no one ever rocks the boat and complains, like this young person, then nothing is done. It doesn't mean she was an ok person, it just means that no one ever did anything about it.
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• India
4 Nov 08
Oh well, if you are a teacher, then you know better. I was under the impression that teaching and learning is a two way process, that is, the student has to put in an equal effort to take in what is being taught. But if you, as a teacher, feel that a teacher can teach even a student who is unwilling to learn or is just too dumb to grasp facts (is this called learning disorder?), then I guess I am out of here. This doesn't meant that I agree with you, even if you are a teacher. I have met too many dummies of all ages and sizes in my life to agree wholeheartedly. Cheers and happy mylotting
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• United States
5 Nov 08
Tenure is really the worse thing that some teachers can ever be granted because there are many teachers who lose their passion after a long time, and they will abuse their students. No one will say anything because who will believe them? The teacher is the authority, not the student. You cannot say anything against an authority figure. Think about the LAPD. There are a lot of corrupted cops, but people cannot say anything because it the police are the authority. Do you understand how hard it is to speak against an authority figure?
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@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
4 Nov 08
Well i have been in a similar situation in university. Where i had the good and bad side of the tenure teacher coin. The bad side.. He was a total pain in the you know what. His teaching method was if you have a differing opinion you get a bad grade and this was a lit class. What i hated most was that you cant do much when it is a tenure teacher/professor that you have an issue with because they basically are exempt from getting fired! Totally rots... i think that should be changed so that if a certain teacher gets repeated complaints or what not about them that the administration will actually look into it and try to figure out why this teacher is the way they are. Verbally abusive teachers are the worse kind since they tear down your self esteem... as you said.. she doesn't deserve retirement after having imposed such a negative image of teachers on students minds.
• United States
5 Nov 08
Yes, when some of the children in my neighborhood were selling things for their middle school, the middle school I attended ten years ago, I asked them about her and they said that she was still around, she was still being a witch with a "B" and she was going to retire. I felt bad for any and all of the people who ever had that woman for a teacher.
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@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
5 Nov 08
i understand what you meant when you said that she doesn't deserve retirement. A person that goes into retirement gets a portion of their pay and is recognized as having done good work. However, as another mylotter pointed out don't dwell on her or what she did. I had a teacher in high school that was just cruel... first day of senior high she said: "I have no problem in failing each and every one of you, and those of you that do pass im sure 54% of you wont get into college" Talk about encouragement eh? When i graduated with my B.A the first thing i did after securing an amazing job i went straight to that high school to stick it to her... that i succeeded... and in the field she said i was no good at (English and Communications)... she was no longer a teacher.. i was happy because she wont be having that negative affect on students sad because i really wanted to stick it to her.. one of the top 12 of my university... just move on and know that you accomplished something with your life despite her cruelty.
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@rocketj1 (6960)
• United States
4 Nov 08
I had a teacher in HS who was a glorified assignment giver. His wife was the cheerleader coach and basically he chatted with the cheerleaders during class while we did the assignments he handed out. He barely explained any concepts (we were an honors class and he said that we "knew how to read") and we were allowed to correct our own work! I don't remember much of anything that I was supposed to have learned in that class. And now, looking back, it's pretty creepy that a man would spend his days chatting and teasing 15 year old cheerleaders! yeeeeessshhhhh!
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• United States
5 Nov 08
It amazes me when people like that are hired to be teaches.
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@rocketj1 (6960)
• United States
5 Nov 08
You know, I think he started out as a pretty decent teacher but tenure gives them no incentive to have to do anything at all. Why work hard when you don't really HAVE to, right? This is why socialism is a frightening concept too!
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
9 Nov 08
It sounds to me like your friends and you should complain! Make a formal complaint to the school board. Get a petition signed by as many students and their parents as you can. I see what you mean, many teachers will stay until they can retire. But anger should not be in the classroom!
• United States
10 Nov 08
See people have tried that in the past, and because she does have tenure, there is nothing that can be done about it. Tenure protects teachers from getting fired. Many other people and myself can complain all we want, but when a person has tenure, they are protected.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
12 Nov 08
Maybe you can use a suggestion box! All I know is that certain behaviors are unacceptable for teachers, like yelling and name-calling.