Sweeteners and diabetes

@suspenseful (40330)
Canada
November 12, 2008 6:50pm CST
I am lumping all sweeteners from natural to artificial. I have been told that sucrose is bad, of course we know that saccarin and the other sweetener is bad for you and I do not like their metallic taste, but I was wondering whether someone who is threatened with diabetes should not have any sweetener at all, since when I am on a site it says cut down or eliminate. So is there a sweetener that is safe for diabetics, or pre diabetics, or is the fact that something is sweet is a danger.
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@ElicBxn (59562)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I keep hearing about stevia, I don't like it, but some people swear by it. It isn't sugar, its a naturally sweet leaf. No idea - it isn't that sweet in MNTBHO!
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@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
13 Nov 08
I bought some stevia, and for me it might work as I do not like things that sweet anyway. I was looking for the other kind, but could not find it. Only my husband says you can't have this or that.
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@slickcut (8141)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I tried that Stevia and it is bitter & i did not like it.I use equal myself..
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@ElicBxn (59562)
• United States
13 Nov 08
Is your husband a doctor? I would be asking my doctor. Well, actually my doctor says that so long as you aren't a "fragile" diabetic, even regular sugar, in moderation, is fine. I, on the other hand, have had more of a problem with LOW blood sugar rather than high.
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@slickcut (8141)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I went to the doctor last week,and i had a blood test,he ask if i had eat anything & i told him NO but that i did drink some coke ,and his next question was (was it a diet or regular coke & it was a regular coke...I explained to him that i use to drink diet drinks but that my 11 year old granddaughter told me to drink reg cokes instead of diet because diet cokes had artificial sugar with was not could for you..He told me that all the test that had been taken on rats proved that to be untrue..He said a person would have to drink 3 0r 4 cases of cokes per day to have any effect on you.He said diet drinks and that artificial sugar like equal was not Bad at all..He highly recommended me to drink & eat artificial sugar..So thats all i know.My doctor is close to 70 years old & has been a doctor since his youth & i do trust his judgement....He sai that is all he dinks is diet cokes or drinks and uses artificial sugar...
@ElicBxn (59562)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I don't like that stevia either - I think its bitter as well
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@slickcut (8141)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Well my doctor failed to meation that part....haha...I love my drinks but i also do not want holes in my bones,that sounds gross..Soooooo guess i better cut back too..Thanks for the tip.
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@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
14 Nov 08
I would not trust Skinny, I mean my doctor. After all, they get free prescription samples and he is a pill pusher. I would rather use something natural and not anything artificial. I do not like diet drinks anyway. They do not taste right to me.
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• United States
13 Nov 08
I have used Stevia as a swetener for years because it is a natural herbal supplement here is some information on it: Stevia has many excellent properties. The body does not metabolize the sweet glycosides from the stevia leaf or any of its processed forms - so there is no caloric intake. Stevia doesn't adversely affect blood glucose levels and may be used freely by diabetics. A Godsend to Diabetics The availability of artificial sweeteners has been of enormous benefit to diabetics. However, there's always been a concern that over consumption of these synthetic sweeteners may cause some unknown harm to the body. Could stevia substitution be a good alternative in diabetics? We believe so. Stevia leaves have been used as herbal teas by diabetic patients in Asian countries. No side effects have been observed in these patients after many years of continued consumption (Suttajit, 1993). Furthermore, studies have shown that stevia extract can actually improve blood sugar levels (Alvarez, 1981, Curi, 1986). http://www.stevia.com/
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• United States
13 Nov 08
I have adrenal problems and I get very hypoglycemic a lot, but Stevia doesn't aggravate my condition as bad as other artificial sweetners do. If you had to choose an artificial sweetner, this would be the one to choose.
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• United States
13 Nov 08
The point I was trying to make is that it is NOT an artificial sweetener but a herb made from the leaves of the Stevia plant.
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@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
13 Nov 08
I want to learn to make some squares or bars using it. A few of our ladies at Church are diabetic or have weight problems or both, and I have to make some for our annual meeting,so I will have to look for recipes. I do not drink tea or coffee with sugar, so the idea of having it as a substitute sweetener doe snot help me.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18124)
• United States
13 Nov 08
My mom is a diabetic. She was told that she could have sugar real sugar but only in moderation and when her blood sugar wasn't high. I don't like the taste or the after taste of most artificial sweeteners. I have heard of something called Stevia and I was telling my mom we should check it out. I don't know much about it bit others said it was good and great for diabetic's. It is best just to cut back or eliminate sugar if you can but if you can't using artificial sweeteners can help for those who like it. Like everything else nothing comes without health hazards.
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
14 Nov 08
This is SO true. One can even die from drinking plain water...if one drinks too much. It's been said that MOST things we eat art toxic, if taken in too large an amount. Food for thought.... Maggiepie
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@mtdewgurl74 (18124)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I agree.
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@Sam41855 (26)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I have diabetes, and I am a lifelong lover of sweets! So I have had to curb my enthusiasm for sweets, desserts, etc. Also don't forget that carbohydrates turn to sugar after they are eaten. So you need to count carbs also. However, the very best sweetner I have found (and the only one I can use) is Splenda. It comes in individual packets for coffee, tea, etc. and it also comes in bulk bags. It is completely safe, as it is made from sugar, but is NOT sugar.........not a chemical, but natural. And you can bake with it......by using one half sugar and one half Splenda. In most things it takes less Splenda than sugar to sweeten. This product is approved by the hospital and nutritionists who led classes which I attended after I was diagnosed about a year ago.
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@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
14 Nov 08
I had something made with Splenda and there was a different taste to it. I find that I cannot have any artificial sweeteners, even Splenda. So I will have to either use honey or another type.
@jayyerex (224)
• Canada
13 Nov 08
I would be asking your doctor these questions. I have tried stevia and was not very impressed. I have also tried natural cane sugar which isn't too bad. I really think the key is moderation, but don't take my advice. I'm no doctor and I certainly never give out medical avice for something as dire as diabetes. Go to your doctor.
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@GardenGerty (80408)
• Marion, Kansas
13 Nov 08
Carbohydrates are as bad as pure sugars for your blood sugar level. You need to do everything in moderation, however, because carbohydrates fuel your body. You already choose more whole grain foods and high fiber fruits and vegetables. I can tell that from the posts you make. Stevia is a plant based sweetener. US government will not let it be called a sweetener, but rather it is called a food additive. I can get it at the grocery, or at a health food store. It is extremely sweet and some studies actually show that it balances blood sugar levels. Name brands I have seen are sweet leaf and nutria. I think anything is healthier than artificial sweeteners, which are just made from chemicals. I will sweeten some things with honey, molasses, or maple syrup, because they have nutrition as well as sweetness.If you want to know about Stevia you can do a search online. I have heard that agave nectar is a good way to sweeten, but I have not researched it or tried it.
@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
13 Nov 08
I eat whole grain bread, and brown rice, and whole grain pasta. The idea that stevia is an additive makes one believe it is just for adding to the food you have and that is not a good idea. We get the powdered or the drop kind up here. I love honey and molasses, but my husband keeps saying I have to use the artificial sweetener because those others are bad for you. He wanted me to pick up some equal, but I said no, that is bad for me.
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@Barbietre (1444)
• United States
13 Nov 08
You do know we can elimintae all carbs from our body, and it will burn fat and protein for fuel don't you? There are many diseases caused by carbs, none from the lack of them. And this hype about splenda is just hype, because the theory is because it is sugar combined with a chlorine atom it is bad for us. Well what do you think salt is NaCL, sodium combined with a chlorine atom. The problem with stevia is people use to much, then it gets bitter. I use the lquid form and it does not have that bitter aftertaste. Try small does and let it sit a minute, then add more if needed. When cooking it strengthens while baking, use less. There is also a new sweetner make from Chicory root. It goes by many names, one is Just Like Sugar http://www.justlikesugarinc.com.It also is natural and easier to cook with, measures like sugar and carmelizes also. As for pasta the little I use (2-3 times a year) I use Dreamfields. I make lasagana minus the noodles, using veggies as the layers,so much better.
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@Barbietre (1444)
• United States
13 Nov 08
Sorry about the bad link Here it is http://www.justlikesugarinc.com Also Netrition.com has many low sugar things, shipping is $4.95 not matter the size of the order.
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@stephcjh (32387)
• United States
13 Nov 08
My step-dad is a diabetic. He has to watch what he eats also. They keep changing what is good and bad for him all of the time. He still eats sweets but it is in moderation.
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@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
The trouble is that I have no idea what is moderation. I can tell if one pigs out on cakes and cookies, that that is way too much, but what if one already has two pieces of cakes or cookies a day or even just one? Moderation could just mean one quarter of a tsp of sugar a day.
• United States
13 Nov 08
I don't have diabetes, but just about all artificial sweeteners make me not feel well. Stevia seems be better, but has a little bit of an aftertaste, too. I hardly use that one, too. I have pretty much stopped eating anything sugar free and mostly rely on fruits and regular sugar for my sweets. But, that wouldn't be practical for a diabetic.
@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I cannot take artificial sweeteners. Even Splenda does not agree with me. I checked on the net to find some other sweeteners that I could get at the health food store, but darn it, if I lived in Ontario, Alberta, or British Columbia I could get them but I live in Manitoba and so I am out of luck.
@izathewzia (5144)
• Philippines
20 Nov 08
All I know is if you are diabetic you should control your intake of sweets. Because anything that is too much is bad for the health. I don't have any idea regarding the artificial and natural sweeteners.
@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
20 Nov 08
Most of the sweets here are either natural, artificial, and Stevia. There are some natural sweeteners in the health food store, but they are expensive and since I do not like my coffee or tea with sugar and I like natural fruit, I am looking for something I can use for baking and cookies since Christmas is coming up.
@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Hm! I've never heard of them being off limits for diabetics, & in fact, when I have to be in the hospital, they ALWAYS provide me with them, knowing I'm on a diabetic diet! Of course, I'm open to hearing updates on any info re diabetic safety, but I DO hope this is incorrect. Cutting out those altogether would sink me...I just MUST have sweets on occasion! I use the blue or the yellow kind--NEVER the pink (it has a horrid, bitter aftertaste--especially when used in hot foods or drinks!). My diabetic nurse/coach has given me many tips, but SHE never mentioned this, either. She's also, as am I, not a fan of the so-called "healthy foods" PYRAMID, which is HEAVY on carbs, which are VERY bad for a diabetic! Maggiepie
@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
15 Nov 08
I do not like eating carbs, like bread, pasta, that much, maybe a little, but not in the quantity they want you to dok, but they are cheaper. We were at the Superstore and looking at the packages of berries, and would you believe about $5.00 for a 2 lb package? And the big one cost almost $20. I can eat lets of salads, but what happens when winter comes?
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@dragon54u (28783)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I don't know what's safe for diabetes but I recently did an in-home taste test with Splenda and believe me, the latest version of it is wonderful! Hardly any aftertaste and what there was of it was faint but rather pleasant. I'd say, though, you need to train yourself to not expect sugar sweetness. I made some spice cake last week using a little flour, some oat cereal, a cut up apple, egg whites and currants. I forgot to use any sweetener! It was pretty good, though, what a surprise! I'll keep making it that way, without sweetener. Now I need to try that in other things.
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@suspenseful (40330)
• Canada
20 Nov 08
The last time I used Splenda was a couple of years ago, and I did not like the taste. That is why I have been looking into Stevia, but it was too expensive then. And I could not afford it until this year. There are a few recipes, and I do not want to just put it in drinks because I love my coffee and tea plain without sweetener. I would like to make some Christmas shortbread with it, so I will have to invent one using it.
@ronaldinu (12456)
• Malta
4 Dec 08
Up till now I am not a diabetic. I do take tests regularly. I do enjoy regular sugar with tea or coffee. When I tried sweeteners I could not get used to it and resorted to the regular sugar once again.