Ok, I was wrong and I admit it. I'm glad, so far, that Obama won.

@dragon54u (31298)
United States
November 27, 2008 10:07am CST
The man scared me with his "spread the wealth" comment and I thought for sure we would have a socialist or communist government. But this guy has a lot on the ball--instead of reveling in his victory, he's getting to work on the problems the country faces and has chosen, so far, a VERY good cabinet! True, they are leftovers from Clinton and Reagan, but they are the best of the best as far as I can see. Best of all, the old men are (for the most part) GONE!!! Hey, I'm kind of old but I'm sick of rich old white men running the country. I like this younger government, fresh ideas and it will be so nice to have children in the White House once again. I will wait and see what President Obama is like before I truly embrace the idea but so far, I'm very glad that he was elected. There may be hope for this country!
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
28 Nov 08
it is refreshing to see someone with a somewhat optimistic attitude on this. I, too, was a bit sketched on some of Obama's ideas. I really did get his "spread the wealth" idea and thought it wasn't half-bad. Other things, however, made me wonder if he was right for the country. What really got me was Colin Powell jumping into his corner. He is a very respected politician and I trust his judgement. I am glad that he won also. I am thinking that if at the very worst, he sat there and did absolutely nothing at all....he still could not do worse than Bush did. I think we should at least all give him a chance and support him. Negative thoughts will not do any good at all. It is time that we all work together to improve this country.
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I agree, Bush got us in a horrible mess and indirectly killed thousands of our young people in an insane, misdirected war and ignored signs of a financial crisis. I am 100% behind President Obama and will support him in whatever he wants to try because I don't think anyone can do a worse job than that jerk Bush.
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@mentalward (14716)
• United States
27 Nov 08
Hahahahaha! I LOVED your comment about the "rich old white men". I almost fell off my chair laughing so hard! You are SO RIGHT, too! This country needs an overhaul and it looks like we've chosen the right man for the job. Now, that's my OPINION, everyone... don't get your feathers in a ruffle! We're all entitled to our opinion, right? Only time will tell, of course, but I must agree that he's really proving himself worthy of his new title already, two months before even taking office! I also love the fact that he's young and more able to relate to just about everyone AND that there will be children in the White House again. They kinda make it more REAL, like a family... human beings... not just politicians and "rich old white men".
@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
27 Nov 08
And isn't Mrs. Obama beautiful? She's such a snappy dresser, I saw her in a checked sundress a few months ago that wasn't really flattering but she made it look gorgeous. And she's going to instruct housekeeping to not make the childrens' beds! I know this has nothing to do with governing but I think she's going to set a wonderful example (him, too) in parenting for this nation that sorely needs to get parenting lessons. Glad I made you laugh! Happy Thanksgiving!!
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• United States
27 Nov 08
Ok the fact that that I am going to have to qualitfy this by saying that it is not my opinion lets you know that I am correct, but here we go. If I said that I didn't want a young black man running our country I would have had the NAACP and 15 assasins after me, but you saying that you don't want old white men is a fun little thing to say. So lets break it down for a moment. Rich- Ok, everyone is washington is Rich compared to the avearage guy. This includes, Obama, Bush, and pretty much everyone we will list in this political forum. Now is that a bad thing? In some ways yes, and in some ways no. The bad thing is that is takes so much money to get elected that it often feels like elections are bought instead of won, but on the other hand we need to look at where the money comes from. If the person has money because they are good at running businesses, that sounds like a great reason to put them in charge, you want someone running the country who knows how to run a business well. Would you really want to elect a guy who is poor because he can't keep his personal finances in order? Anyway, we are stuck with rich guys in washington for the time being, and unfortunately becasue they no longer go home and work their own business when they are done, the are going to be out of touch with the rest of us. This includes almost everyone on both sides of the isle. Old- Most places in the world have older leaders because they are more experianced. With age comes wisdom. So I am indeed agist. I like the idea that there is an age requirement on things like the presidency and drivers liscenses. White- Ok this really has no effect on the way things are run, and is does not matter what race a leader is, what matters is the way they conduct themselves. THe only reaon race is an issue is because people keep bringing it up like it is an issue. I personally live in a predominantly black area, and I know a lot of people who voted for Obama because it would be "Historic" to have a black president. While they are correct, it is the wrong reason to vote for or against someone. (Same goes for those who voted against him becasue he is black) Some of my close friends voted for him for this reason and I lost a lot of respect for them because of it. Other friends voted for him because of issues, and while I dissagree with a lot of those issues, at least it is a thought out and meaningful position. As for your other point, yes his cabinet is a lot better than I expected it to be.
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@mentalward (14716)
• United States
27 Nov 08
Wisdom doesn't always come with age. I've known some awfully wise younger people, too. I'm not saying you're wrong at all! It normally takes the average person many, many decades to become wise. So, traditionally speaking, your statement is correct. But, there are exceptions. And about the race thing? You are also very correct in that it would not be an issue if people would stop bringing it up. Yes, it is an historical event, but that's an entirely different arena when we're discussing the presidency. No one should be bringing up his race when talking about his qualifications as president... it has nothing to do with it. But this man is bi-racial, not black. Why does everyone keep calling him black? He's half white! What if he looked white? I mean, what if his skin color was so light that he looked white? Would people still be calling him a black man, even though he would still have the same amount of African ancestors? I know this has absolutely nothing to do with what you were trying to express here and I'm not trying to start a debate or get anyone upset... this just pops into my brain every time I hear someone call Obama black. Happy turkey day!
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• United States
27 Nov 08
Yes you are right, he is biracial and raised by his white mother. There are (for legal resons assosiated with afirmative action type laws) legal definitions of race, and he is within his rights to claim himself as black legally. Again, really it should have nothing to do with policy, and as Bill Clinton Claimed himself as the "First Black President" I guess our historic thing is out the window. Oh well. I'm out on the discussion, I have to go cook a turkey. My point on the issue was just that the only way for race to go away as an issue is for us to stop fixating on things like being the "first black president", or being sick of "old rich white people". If we paid attention to issues and character we wou be better off
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
27 Nov 08
My objection to rich old white guys is that most of them have never missed a meal in their life and have no idea how most of America lives. They think paying a little more in taxes is no big deal when in fact, many families are just squeaking by and making their kids wear winter coats they've outgrown because they can't afford new ones that fit well. Those ROWG can't understand why many poor people are overweight, they don't realize that the poor eat the cheapest food possible and that food happens to be macaroni and cheese or other carb-rich foods. ROWG all have health insurance, they can't imagine why middle class Americans can't afford to insure their families. I have nothing against anyone who has money. It's their attitudes and their Ivory Tower view of the world, their disconnection with the average American that I think makes them unfit to lead the country. Mr. Obama may not have come up from poverty but he has more understanding of the average American's lifestyle, needs and ambitions than anyone we've had in the White House in my lifetime.
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@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I'm really glad that you're not disappointed. I know it's usually hard for most people to say that they are wrong, I think it's really respectable. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and posting this discussion.
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
Thank you! If we're not willing to admit when we're wrong, we never learn anything and spend our lives in willful ignorance.
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@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
28 Nov 08
You're welcome. I know a lot of people that are very happy living in ignorance
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@newtondak (3950)
• United States
27 Nov 08
Other than picking his staff, Obama hasn't DONE anything yet. He has picked people who, as the holders of previous Washington posts, were/are part of the problem - and he expects them to now be part of the solution - and for us to see them as the "experts" that are going to bring this country around. As far as not wanting "rich old white men" running the country - that's exactly what you have with Biden!
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
27 Nov 08
Well, Biden's not president so I don't have that-yet. Obama has picked a lot of his staff now and he's picked experienced people that are the best of some past administrations. They know how things work and hopefully they will know how to fix the economy. Obama is working on plans to implement when he gets into office and he'll be ready to start putting them into practice as soon as he's sworn in. I admire his beginning to work on the problems so he'll be ready as soon as he's able to legally take the reins.
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@newtondak (3950)
• United States
28 Nov 08
"best of some past administrations" - meaning, of course, Clinton's Administration - and as I previously indicated some that have already been part of the problem.
• Canada
28 Nov 08
I'm really glad to see someone who may not have agreed with hiss victory in the beginning is now supporting him. I think that if given the chance Obama could turn America slightly around. I say slightly because that is a huge deficit and to be honest I think anyone in office would have a problem getting rid of it in one or even two terms as a president. I'm also glad to see younger people in cabinet as I think that society has grown and with that so have our ideals and the way we live life. That being said a cabinet should reflect that on some way 'the evolution' so to speak. Fresh ideas are needed at this point and I look forward to seeing what Obama can do. Cheers :) Loved the old white men comment as well.
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
Yes, it's definitely time for someone with new ideas. Some complain that he's appointing people from Clinton and Reagan but they are the best and most experienced that he could find. I like the diversity, too, men and women and black and white, older and younger. I hope he shakes things up and does things in new ways with his fresh approach. I hope Washington doesn't ruin him and I hope his family breathes some fresh air into that stuffy old White House!
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@Sheepie (3121)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I've never lost hope in him, I know he can do it. He's just too confident for me to think otherwise. He is fully aware of what he is getting into. I think he's way wise beyond his years, and he has ideas for everyone.
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I wouldn't want to take on the burdens he's in for but I think he has a lot on the ball. I'm behind him 100%.
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@anniepa (26621)
• United States
27 Nov 08
I think that's very big of you to admit you were wrong and to be willing to give Obama a fair chance. I'm also glad he was elected and agree there may be hope for this country. I understand where you're coming from with your "rich old white men" comment. It's been pretty much that one group who has been in charge of things forever and now it's time for someone else to get a chance. I don't mean that to be in the least bit "racist" or "agist", it's a simple statement of fact. I agree with the poster who said about how there are age requirements for certain things for a reason but Obama is well over 35, which I'll agree IS too young to be President. I think Obama is just the right age for what we need right now; he's old enough to know better and young enough to care - not to mention young enough to remember his own youth which wasn't spent in the lap of luxury like our current President. I also agree it's great to know there will be two sweet little girls living in the White House soon! Cleaning their own rooms to boot...lol! Annie
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
Thanks for your kind words. My grandpa always said that if a person can't admit when they're wrong they will go through life in ignorance. We learn and broaden our horizons through our mistakes! I think you're right when you say he's young enough to care but old enough to know better--that's a perfect description! I hope he'll bring good governing back to the country. I also like the fact that he's very emphatic that this is going to be painful and tough. He's not talking to us like we're idiots or children like all the other politicians do. Perhaps he'll actually turn out to be a statesman--one who serves the public in the public interest, a species long thought to be extinct! I certainly hope so.
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@suspenseful (40326)
• Canada
27 Nov 08
Not happy and I can give you the reasons. First Obama is pro abortion, pro same gender privileges, and his cabinet consists of people with the same view as he has. The Hispanic community has asked for a Hispanic member or judge, but since most of them are Roman Catholics and against abortion, I doubt that he will be able to elect one. His cabinet choice stinks. If he had selected some that do not share his pro abortion, anti=Christian, anti=Family views, then I might change my mind. But really I am not an Obama worshipper and I hate to see the economy of the States get better at the expense of the unborn. Oh and being a white person, I am rather upset at the young rich black people who will not get villified as the young rich white people will.
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
27 Nov 08
I'm not happy with his views on abortion, not at all. But I can't afford to be a one-issue voter. Even if Obama were against abortion he couldn't stop it. You can't legislate morality and people will keep killing their babies as long as it is morally acceptable. I think that eventually society will move to a higher ground in regards to morals. I also think that the Obama family will be a good example of parenting and perhaps American parents will move back towards valuing their children when they see the love and discipline the Obama children enjoy.
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• United States
28 Nov 08
I bet you that abortions worldwide will go down under the Obama administration. If you look at the underlying causes of why women have abortions in poor countries (which pretty much come down to a lack of education, a lack of prenatal care facilities at an affordable price, poverty and sickness), and you look at the plans the Obama administration has for USAID and promoting more charity work I guarantee you that we will see a major decline in abortions globally. just as we did under the Clinton administration. Not only that, but it seems that less people are going to be killed because of warfare under the Obama administration. And less children will die of hunger. So overall I think more lives will be saved both pre-born and post-born under the Obama administration. Being "pro-abortion" or pro-choice doesn't make you anti-Christian, it makes you pro-let-the-people-decide. I don't understand why people think that being pro-abortion is anti-Christian but being pro-war and anti-government-aid is the Christian way to go. Ughh I just don't understand!
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• United States
28 Nov 08
It takes a big man to own up and admit a wrong. You have earned my respect it that. I was also a little concern over the "spread the wealth" comment, mainly because I was not sure of HIS meaning behind the phrase. I am sure that the Office of the President cannot change our present form of government into a socialist or communistic government. While I would not want any other form of government, I do believe that we need a little sprinkle of socailism in our country over the next few years. Not much, just a sprinkle... I do approve of his preparations he is doing. Other responces here have point out that he hasn't taken office yet, therefore he hasn't done anything yet. While technically true - he hasn't made any policy changes or deciscions yet, he is preparing well. And from the news reports I have seen so far, he is doing a good job in choosing his cabinent. LOL on your "rich old white men" comment. But there is more than one grain of salt of truth. I remember a comment from the late J. Paul Getty about it he did not "make $1000 a day" he did not "have a thing to eat" that day! This is when I struggled to make $1000 in a month! Yet I put food on the table for my family. Such rich people do loose touch with mainstream America. I voted for Obama. It was not so much as embracing his positions (I did agree with some of them), it was a vote against the same old campaign tricks of the Republian Party. But that is another discussion... Yes, there is hope for this country after all!
@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
Yes, the Getty thing is how a lot of rich people think, especially those that have inherited their money. Granted, there are also those who handle it properly and live a bit more like we do but they've never known hunger or want. It will be nice to have less of them running our government in the next 4 years!
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@irishidid (8119)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I'm not ready to admit to anything. I'll let you know in a few years. I will keep an open mind and see how things turn out. I'd feel much easier if the democrats weren't in full control and I would feel that way if it were the republicans in full control. Checks and balances.
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
The party leaders-each side-don't want checks and balances, they want control. Although I think that our prez elect will displease a lot of his party members, I think he probably has some original ideas up his sleeve. We shall see. I, too, am keeping an open mind and I'm cautiously optimistic.
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@irisheyes (4375)
• United States
28 Nov 08
You are one of a number of Mylotters who seem to coming around a little on the Obama presidency. It's interesting to watch. I voted for him and I hope he will bring some new approaches into government. Only time will tell. God knows he will have his work cut out for him. (So will Hillary if she really does become Secretary of State)
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I think he has the toughest job any president elect has ever faced going into office so I'm not going to expect him to work miracles. The thing that always bothered me about him, and why I didn't vote for him, was that he talked a lot but said very little of substance. Of course, that was a rallies where the guy was just supposed to work people up--and he did! The debates were a little better but he just wouldn't lay out a plan. Neither would McCain, but he was senator of the state I recently moved from and I knew he was a crook--I knew nothing about Senator Obama. I think the people chose the right man for the job and he has my allegiance.
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@clrumfelt (5427)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I am still not comfortable with the idea of an Obama president. He is not experienced enough in government for me to have considered voting for him. I am taking a wait and see attitude because of my apprehension. If he is actually sworn in as president, we'll see if people are still singing his praises six months from now. I'm not confident enough yet to think I was wrong about him.
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@dragon54u (31298)
• United States
28 Nov 08
The lack of experience is a plus in my book. He hasn't yet been corrupted by the power mongers and the greedy. He'll do things his way and when he's told the consequences of it, he'll get angry and put a stop to the pandering, the money laundering, the under-the-table bribes and the rest. At least, I'm hoping so. I would like to see Washington exposed as the seething mass of corruption and depravity that it really is. I would like the American people and the rest of the world to see who has been running this country and I would love to see them all booted out into the nearest state prison--not the federal pen country-club. Now, I know I'm paining Mr. Obama as a superhero and none of this is going to happen. But he can start the ball rolling and I believe he will--in order to fix this mess we're in things must happen quickly and there'll be no time for shenanigans like bribes. Perhaps his outrage when things move so slowly will expose these things.
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@clrumfelt (5427)
• United States
28 Nov 08
Anyone who looks closely at Obama's past politics in Chicago and as a senator can see plenty of corruption. Why would anyone want someone as president who is going to bring all that with him?